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OK, so call me a sucker, but I bought one of these things just now... I will be reporting back with info and videos soon. I have a spot I should be able to test up to 200ish yards or so.
Now... where to get lots of blanks!
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Quoted: OK, so call me a sucker, but I bought one of these things just now... I will be reporting back with info and videos soon. I have a spot I should be able to test up to 200ish yards or so. View Quote Now... where to get lots of blanks! I'd drop a line in the FNRL thread, I'm sure someone is sitting on some. |
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Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." View Quote $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... |
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Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... I don't know if it includes a BCG yet. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... I don't know if it includes a BCG yet. From the site: "Why would you launch a soda can? Because it's fun! Plus, it's an incredibly fast and fun decoy to shoot at. Every demonstration leads to more smiles and laughs than any product we've ever introduced. BATFE approved design is not considered a Destructive Device or firearm. Sold as an assembled upper with receiver, headspaced and mounted ported barrel, and pressure tube. Works with any AR-15 mil standard bolt and most piston bolts. Includes our no-hassle lifetime warranty."
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... I don't know if it includes a BCG yet. Nope. Doesn't even come with a charging handle either. Put one in the Shopping Cart and here's the description: "Easy switch over with your BCG and charging handle." I was in at $199 for a barrel and tube. Another $200 for an upper receiver with whatever labor is involved that I could already do myself? No thanks. |
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That would be a great anti rioter device. Shoot a couple cases of Bull and Colt45, and watch them scatter.
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too.
Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed.
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Quoted: Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. http://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/micro_aimpoint_quadrant.jpg Ummm.... Just looked at the price. That's a big NOPE. |
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. View Quote I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. |
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Nope. Doesn't even come with a charging handle either. Put one in the Shopping Cart and here's the description: "Easy switch over with your BCG and charging handle." I was in at $199 for a barrel and tube. Another $200 for an upper receiver with whatever labor is involved that I could already do myself? No thanks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... I don't know if it includes a BCG yet. Nope. Doesn't even come with a charging handle either. Put one in the Shopping Cart and here's the description: "Easy switch over with your BCG and charging handle." I was in at $199 for a barrel and tube. Another $200 for an upper receiver with whatever labor is involved that I could already do myself? No thanks. Why do they keep making their product less attractive? |
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Clearly you need only the finest... http://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/micro_aimpoint_quadrant.jpg Ummm.... Just looked at the price. That's a big NOPE. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Clearly you need only the finest... http://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/micro_aimpoint_quadrant.jpg Ummm.... Just looked at the price. That's a big NOPE. G&P and King Arms make airsoft copies of the KAC micro quadrant sight for under $100. Still need to add your own red dot to. Real iron quadrant sights can be had for $150: https://www.modarmory.com/product/m203-quadrant-sight-assembly-grenade-launcher/ |
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Quoted: I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. Yeah I figure that might be the only option at first. I'm trying to dream up a way of mounting a section of picatinny rail to the top of barrel. Then I could make an attempt at using the M203 leaf sight.The sight radius needs to be really short if I want to get any accuracy out of it. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential.
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Here is how I have dreamt up mounting a usable leaf site.
Two 2.75" clamps such as pictured below, with a 7" section of thick picatinny rail drilled to let the through-bolts it between the two sides of the strap. I might put a thin layer of rubber coating on the straps and rail so that they can be torqued down a bit and not damage the barrel. Once mounted and centered, you could mount a very low-profile front site and one of those M203 leaf sights to the rail. |
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Yeah I figure that might be the only option at first. I'm trying to dream up a way of mounting a section of picatinny rail to the top of barrel. Then I could make an attempt at using the M203 leaf sight.The sight radius needs to be really short if I want to get any accuracy out of it. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential. I would weld a length of steel picatinny rail directly to the outside of the pressure tube. 180 degrees (left side as you are holding the shouldered weapon) for a quadrant sight and/or 45 degrees, top of the rail for the rear leaf sight and front sight post. Only downside to welding is you will have to repaint the whole thing. |
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Quoted: I would weld a length of steel picatinny rail directly to the outside of the pressure tube. 180 degrees (left side as you are holding the shouldered weapon) for a quadrant sight and/or 45 degrees, top of the rail for the rear leaf sight and front sight post. Only downside to welding is you will have to repaint the whole thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential. I would weld a length of steel picatinny rail directly to the outside of the pressure tube. 180 degrees (left side as you are holding the shouldered weapon) for a quadrant sight and/or 45 degrees, top of the rail for the rear leaf sight and front sight post. Only downside to welding is you will have to repaint the whole thing. I would be worried about weakening and blowing the tube up when I attempt some M195...
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G&P and King Arms make airsoft copies of the KAC micro quadrant sight for under $100. Still need to add your own red dot to. Real iron quadrant sights can be had for $150: https://www.modarmory.com/product/m203-quadrant-sight-assembly-grenade-launcher/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Clearly you need only the finest... http://www.knightarmco.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/micro_aimpoint_quadrant.jpg Ummm.... Just looked at the price. That's a big NOPE. G&P and King Arms make airsoft copies of the KAC micro quadrant sight for under $100. Still need to add your own red dot to. Real iron quadrant sights can be had for $150: https://www.modarmory.com/product/m203-quadrant-sight-assembly-grenade-launcher/ The fuck? Ebay dude $20 w/free shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/USGI-M-203-QUADRANT-SIGHT-/121485952290?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c49208522 |
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Yeah I figure that might be the only option at first. I'm trying to dream up a way of mounting a section of picatinny rail to the top of barrel. Then I could make an attempt at using the M203 leaf sight.The sight radius needs to be really short if I want to get any accuracy out of it. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anyone know how to mount a quadrant site without a carry handle upper? I'm thinking that is worth a shot too. Edit: SwiftKey has shit the bed. I just dug an extra (nearly useless) detachable carry handle out of my gear and I'm going to use an M203 quadrant sight I got for free from a Marine buddy. Seems the cheapest route at the moment. I'm pretty good at making things work and I'll spend money if I see some potential. Steel picatinny sections and silver solder. http://www.gunsnorthwest.com/18-steel-picatinny-rail-18-rail.htm Silver soldering. http://muggyweld.com/ssf6-silver-solder |
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case.
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Straight from the good folks at X-Products: "We are doing our first shipments this week. Just so you know we have made the determination that we are selling the Assembled uppers only not the barrel/sleeve combination. We are offering them in Black, FDE and OD Green. Colors are a $20 up charge. Black is $399." $200 for a stripped upper? No thanks... I don't know if it includes a BCG yet. Nope. Doesn't even come with a charging handle either. Put one in the Shopping Cart and here's the description: "Easy switch over with your BCG and charging handle." I was in at $199 for a barrel and tube. Another $200 for an upper receiver with whatever labor is involved that I could already do myself? No thanks. Why do they keep making their product less attractive? maybe we all need to email them and let them know that they need to sell it by itself? |
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. View Quote Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. |
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Quoted: Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. |
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. http://www.wehmer.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=18 |
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Quoted: It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. |
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. There is more than one measurement of strength that must be used when comparing welds to soldering. And is using Mossberg as an example supposed to instill confidence? |
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Honestly, I don't doubt it. So where would I pick up some of this particular type of silver solder? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. Here's the link for the SSF-6. http://muggyweld.com/ssf6-silver-solder |
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There is more than one measurement of strength that must be used when comparing welds to soldering. And is using Mossberg as an example supposed to instill confidence? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Silver solder is a good idea. It's not like the barrel could get hot enough to melt it. Even regular solder would probably work in this case. Silver solder is what Mossberg uses on their shotgun barrels, the 'weld' is as strong as mig/tig but doesn't weaken the thinner walls. It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. There is more than one measurement of strength that must be used when comparing welds to soldering. And is using Mossberg as an example supposed to instill confidence? Typically with thin walled applications the weld itself is going to be stronger than the material, so I would say that when it comes to this he's better off than putting a hole in the side of it or warping it. Mossberg has created some marketing shit, but none of that has anything to do with the quality of their weapons, the 590 shotguns will run with anything on the market, and for the record Remingtons are soldered as well. |
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Typically with thin walled applications the weld itself is going to be stronger than the material, so I would say that when it comes to this he's better off than putting a hole in the side of it or warping it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's rated at 70,000 psi tensile strength and can go as high as 130,000 which is stronger than standard stick welding. There is more than one measurement of strength that must be used when comparing welds to soldering. And is using Mossberg as an example supposed to instill confidence? Typically with thin walled applications the weld itself is going to be stronger than the material, so I would say that when it comes to this he's better off than putting a hole in the side of it or warping it. I agree that silver solder is probably the best approach for the application. But it wouldn't be accurate to define silver solder simply as "stronger than welding"... In some ways yes, in other ways no. Mossberg has created some marketing shit, but none of that has anything to do with the quality of their weapons, the 590 shotguns will run with anything on the market, Mossberg shotguns are built by drunken monkeys. and for the record Remingtons are soldered as well. True. Many other shotgun makes too. |
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I've already got a golf ball launcher...
What else can it shoot besides golf balls?? Red Bull can?? |
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Weapons sights are typically soft soldered, not hard soldered.
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Mossberg shotguns are build by drunken monkeys. View Quote I have a 590 from 1995 or so and it's been a solid gun from day one, feeds everything, has been through a few camping and river trips. I've abused it and never had a single broken part, jam or ftf. Those substance dependent alcoholic monkeys turn out a better product than Franchi. My old Spas-12 for all it's fame was a POS. |
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Quoted: I have a 590 from 1995 or so and it's been a solid gun from day one, feeds everything, has been through a few camping and river trips. I've abused it and never had a single broken part, jam or ftf. Those substance dependent alcoholic monkeys turn out a better product than Franchi. My old Spas-12 for all it's fame was a POS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Mossberg shotguns are build by drunken monkeys. I have a 590 from 1995 or so and it's been a solid gun from day one, feeds everything, has been through a few camping and river trips. I've abused it and never had a single broken part, jam or ftf. Those substance dependent alcoholic monkeys turn out a better product than Franchi. My old Spas-12 for all it's fame was a POS. |
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People have known SPAS-12's have been that since they hit the shore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Mossberg shotguns are build by drunken monkeys. I have a 590 from 1995 or so and it's been a solid gun from day one, feeds everything, has been through a few camping and river trips. I've abused it and never had a single broken part, jam or ftf. Those substance dependent alcoholic monkeys turn out a better product than Franchi. My old Spas-12 for all it's fame was a POS. Fit and finish were excellent, tight as a Benelli. Over complicated and engineered before the days of the internet you couldn't find a maintenance manual for it. I had a problem with it getting too dirty in SA and not cycling, it would work fine in pump. Quality was excellent, functionality not so much. |
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Mine shipped this afternoon. It's supposed to be here thursday.
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I would hope the end of the barrels is a threaded cap thats replaceable incase that happens. I'd think a live round would pass through the soda can and end cap of the barrel and continue on its way. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It will be interesting when the first person forgets to use a blank and shoots a live round. I would hope the end of the barrels is a threaded cap thats replaceable incase that happens. I'd think a live round would pass through the soda can and end cap of the barrel and continue on its way. lol no |
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