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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:06:03 PM EDT
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Apparently the demil requirement is no longer in effect, or so I just read on Humvee.net. 12 HMMWVs are listed on govplanet.com. Just reposting something I read this morning.
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:23:54 PM EDT
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the ones our PD got have been a joke. the bought them for severe weather response. they suck worse than a regular 4x4 truck here on ice and snow, and really don't do that much better on muddy back roads, and have significantly less cargo capacity. high maint and parts costs. generally rough shape when delivered.
i'd take a good 4x4 over one unless you had some real special need for it. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:27:47 PM EDT
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the ones our PD got have been a joke. the bought them for severe weather response. they suck worse than a regular 4x4 truck here on ice and snow, and really don't do that much better on muddy back roads, and have significantly less cargo capacity. high maint and parts costs. generally rough shape when delivered. i'd take a good 4x4 over one unless you had some real special need for it. What if my special need is looking like a bad ass 
True story, I almost bought a civi hummer instead of my Excursion. I am thankful every day I didn't make that mistake. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:41:00 PM EDT
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What if my special need is looking like a bad ass
True story, I almost bought a civi hummer instead of my Excursion. I am thankful every day I didn't make that mistake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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the ones our PD got have been a joke. the bought them for severe weather response. they suck worse than a regular 4x4 truck here on ice and snow, and really don't do that much better on muddy back roads, and have significantly less cargo capacity. high maint and parts costs. generally rough shape when delivered. i'd take a good 4x4 over one unless you had some real special need for it. What if my special need is looking like a bad ass
True story, I almost bought a civi hummer instead of my Excursion. I am thankful every day I didn't make that mistake. I really wanted an H2, until I got familiar with them. They look bad ass but functionally are a damned waste. I bought an Escalade ESV instead and put a mild lift on it because it tows 2000 lbs. more than the H2. Yeah, it's AWD instead of real 4x4, but there are ways to operate an AWD that will get you through most of the things a 4x4 will. You can't manipulate the vehicle to gain an additional 2000 lbs. of towing. The Excursion would have probably been even more appropriate for my needs......except Ford. 
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:45:36 PM EDT
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Why would you want one?
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Posted: 12/5/2014 2:53:48 PM EDT
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I really wanted an H2, until I got familiar with them. They look bad ass but functionally are a damned waste. I bought an Escalade ESV instead and put a mild lift on it because it tows 2000 lbs. more than the H2. Yeah, it's AWD instead of real 4x4, but there are ways to operate an AWD that will get you through most of the things a 4x4 will. You can't manipulate the vehicle to gain an additional 2000 lbs. of towing. The Excursion would have probably been even more appropriate for my needs......except Ford.
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the ones our PD got have been a joke. the bought them for severe weather response. they suck worse than a regular 4x4 truck here on ice and snow, and really don't do that much better on muddy back roads, and have significantly less cargo capacity. high maint and parts costs. generally rough shape when delivered. i'd take a good 4x4 over one unless you had some real special need for it. What if my special need is looking like a bad ass
True story, I almost bought a civi hummer instead of my Excursion. I am thankful every day I didn't make that mistake. I really wanted an H2, until I got familiar with them. They look bad ass but functionally are a damned waste. I bought an Escalade ESV instead and put a mild lift on it because it tows 2000 lbs. more than the H2. Yeah, it's AWD instead of real 4x4, but there are ways to operate an AWD that will get you through most of the things a 4x4 will. You can't manipulate the vehicle to gain an additional 2000 lbs. of towing. The Excursion would have probably been even more appropriate for my needs......except Ford.
H2s look bad ass? How? Tahoe with massively heavier/larger body, how can you go wrong? I remember the first time I saw a video of one trying to take a mild rocky trail. Snapped a tie rod like it was nothing simply trying to crawl over a small boulder that wasn't even half the height of the tires. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 3:10:09 PM EDT
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The only people that seem to want them never had to crew one. Bingo. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 3:13:04 PM EDT
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The only people that seem to want them never had to crew one. This. I've driven quite a few variants during my time in the Army. I have always been underwhelmed by their performance. I would love a surplus LMTV however. It's by far been my most favorite to drive and I love how it sounds. |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 3:19:35 PM EDT
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would love to see LMTVs surplused.. the M35 market is all but dried up, they're about the closest thing one could get..
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Posted: 12/5/2014 3:33:43 PM EDT
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would love to see LMTVs surplused.. the M35 market is all but dried up, they're about the closest thing one could get.. you asked http://www.govplanet.com/Trucks+-+LMTV |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 3:49:33 PM EDT
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Apparently the demil requirement is no longer in effect, or so I just read on Humvee.net. 12 HMMWVs are listed on govplanet.com. Just reposting something I read this morning. You are correct, they appear to be demil code Q DLA Disposition Services Demilitarization codes Q - Commerce Control List Items (CCLI). Demilitarization not required, however Trade Security Controls (as set forth by the Department of Commerce) required at time of disposition. Trade Security Control Assessment/Clearance required. Mutilation to the point of scrap required outside the United States. http://www.govplanet.com/for-sale/Humvees-1990-AM-General-M998-Humvee-HMMWV-Utah/543215?h=5000%2Cmode%7C2&rr=1&hitprm=mode%3D2,command%3DNewSearch,kwtag%3DSRTopKeyword,q%3Dhmmwv,gaparam%3D |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 5:29:19 PM EDT
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you asked http://www.govplanet.com/Trucks+-+LMTV Quote HistoryQuoted:
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would love to see LMTVs surplused.. the M35 market is all but dried up, they're about the closest thing one could get.. you asked http://www.govplanet.com/Trucks+-+LMTV holy shit. now I wish I was single, LOL |
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Posted: 12/5/2014 6:21:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I've driven quite a few variants during my time in the Army. I have always been underwhelmed by their performance. I would love a surplus LMTV however. It's by far been my most favorite to drive and I love how it sounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The only people that seem to want them never had to crew one. This. I've driven quite a few variants during my time in the Army. I have always been underwhelmed by their performance. I would love a surplus LMTV however. It's by far been my most favorite to drive and I love how it sounds. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 9:06:07 AM EDT
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THIS. HMMWVs suck. LMTVs are great. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only people that seem to want them never had to crew one. This. I've driven quite a few variants during my time in the Army. I have always been underwhelmed by their performance. I would love a surplus LMTV however. It's by far been my most favorite to drive and I love how it sounds. Yup... |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 9:17:12 AM EDT
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Damn forgot about this thread, but that's good news.
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Posted: 12/8/2014 9:30:53 AM EDT
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Yeah, pretty much.... Drove them for probably 6 years, then years later read about how unsafe they supposedly are. LOL... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nope - deemed not safe by DOT for Joe Civilian. The ones that are on the market slipped through before the ruling. Damn. Not safe for civilians, but soldiers it is? That's kinda shitty. Yeah, pretty much.... Drove them for probably 6 years, then years later read about how unsafe they supposedly are. LOL... ever think there's a bigger reason we're supposed to wear a kevlar while operating them? |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:09:39 AM EDT
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold.
Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:11:57 AM EDT
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Nope - deemed not safe by DOT for Joe Civilian. The ones that are on the market slipped through before the ruling. Classic case of FPNI... OP, ex 19E here.. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:13:53 AM EDT
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold. Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. The demil code has changed. They are now being sold to the public at .gov auction "for off road use only" |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:14:34 AM EDT
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Nope - deemed not safe by DOT for Joe Civilian. The ones that are on the market slipped through before the ruling. This. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:27:21 AM EDT
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold. Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. They just released them as off-road use only. If I get one it would most likely be converted to a 12v Cummins. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 11:23:12 AM EDT
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Later models had Park. Also had the lap/shoulder seat belts. I never minded driving one, or being up in the turret. At one location, the CE guys crafted gunners seats that they affixed to the strap. Made life nicer.
Do I want one to play with? Yep, it would be nice. But, when I have the kind of money it takes to have that kind of toy, its primary function in life will be to haul my Ma Deuce and M-60 around. My brothers and I will play "Rat Patrol" on my large expanse of property. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 3:02:02 PM EDT
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Later models had Park. Also had the lap/shoulder seat belts. I never minded driving one, or being up in the turret. At one location, the CE guys crafted gunners seats that they affixed to the strap. Made life nicer. Do I want one to play with? Yep, it would be nice. But, when I have the kind of money it takes to have that kind of toy, its primary function in life will be to haul my Ma Deuce and M-60 around. My brothers and I will play "Rat Patrol" on my large expanse of property. Yeah, I wanted one mostly for nostalgia, but I gave up and just bought a Rubicon. Now I need a way to mount my Shrike to the Jeep.LOL |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 3:03:36 PM EDT
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They just released them as off-road use only. If I get one it would most likely be converted to a 12v Cummins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold. Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. They just released them as off-road use only. If I get one it would most likely be converted to a 12v Cummins. You mean the HMMWVS demil code has changed or the 900 series 5 tons are back open to pubic auction? |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 4:50:24 PM EDT
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You mean the HMMWVS demil code has changed or the 900 series 5 tons are back open to pubic auction? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold. Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. They just released them as off-road use only. If I get one it would most likely be converted to a 12v Cummins. You mean the HMMWVS demil code has changed or the 900 series 5 tons are back open to pubic auction? Yes, the HMMWVs demil code has changed from having to destroy them before they could be sold as scrap to being able to auction them off as off-road use vehicles only. See my post half way down on this page... |
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Posted: 12/16/2014 6:05:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:42:33 PM EDT
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Here are some of the sales results. All sold.
25 trucks sold
Highest price: Last one at $41000 Lowest Price: first one at $21500 Total Price: $744,000 Average price: $29760 Number of attendees: 109512 Item # Description #bids Loc. Winning Bid 544985 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 535 Utah $41,000.00 544988 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 119 Utah $35,000.00 544991 1995 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 238 Utah $38,500.00 543219 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 105 Utah $33,000.00 544987 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 188 Utah $33,500.00 544980 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 73 Utah $26,500.00 544986 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 160 Utah $32,000.00 544982 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 79 Utah $25,500.00 543218 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 83 Utah $29,500.00 544992 1991 AM General M1038 Humvee HMMWV 107 Utah $29,500.00 544983 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 101 Utah $30,500.00 543211 1990 AM General M998 Humvee HMMWV 205 Utah $33,000.00 543217 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 55 Utah $25,000.00 544989 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 77 Utah $28,500.00 544984 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 47 Utah $25,500.00 543214 1990 AM General M998 Humvee HMMWV 54 Utah $26,500.00 544990 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 117 Utah $28,000.00 543212 1987 AM General M998 Humvee HMMWV 89 Utah $30,000.00 543215 1990 AM General M998 Humvee HMMWV 503 Utah $34,000.00 544981 1994 AM General M998A1 Humvee HMMWV 146 Utah $30,000.00 543213 1991 AM General M1038 Humvee HMMWV 319 Utah $29,500.00 544978 1989 AM General M1038 Humvee HMMWV 27 Utah $24,000.00 544979 1993 AM General M998 Humvee HMMWV 126 Utah $28,500.00 543222 1987 AM General M1038 Humvee HMMWV 125 Utah $25,500.00 543220 1989 AM General M1038 Humvee HMMWV 61 Utah $21,500.00 |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 6:52:21 PM EDT
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My head is still spinning from this auction. Better to buy one off ebay with a title!
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:03:12 PM EDT
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.Mil hmmvs have no pollution controls. No ICC lighting. No park on the transmission. They are offered as a Loan to political subdivisions and can't be sold. Some leaked out via Marine Corps in the 90's. There will be no more. Even the new large trucks won't be sold. The engines don't use DEF. The best way to buy one would be from a foreign ally that has them and are over 25 years old. No EPA or DOT bullshit and have it shipped back stateside. 25 are for sale right now to the public. They are for off road use only thoigh. |
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Posted: 12/17/2014 7:43:05 PM EDT
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My head is still spinning from this auction. Better to buy one off ebay with a title! No kidding. I can't imagine paying that much for a ex military rig. |
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Posted: 12/18/2014 4:41:02 PM EDT
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I honestly didn't think they'd go for this much. There are numerous HMMWVs out there with clean titles for about the same pricing, and some are even cheaper! Guess these are the bidders with no brains and no concept of the current market pricing. Then you think of the 4,000 that will be released in the next few months. Those that bid high and won will soon realize their poor "investment."
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