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http://www.ammoland.com/2015/12/dismissal-of-post-1986-machinegun-ban-challenge-appealed/#comment-1910333
Thank you Dick Heller and the Heller Foundation for continuing to fight for our rights! |
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Heller II - Challenging DC's bans on semi-automatic rifles, large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, and its onerous and expensive handgun registration process. http://www.HellerFoundation.org/
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Just in case any one is listening.
If I did own an 80mm mortar - I'm not hiring a crew to fire the damn thing. With the cost of that sort of ammo you better believe it will be me dropping each round down that tube.. As for a 1919A4 - who needs a crew. All you need is a (wheeled option) golf club bag with a few ammo cans strapped on with bungee cords, And if your Arnold... you would upgrade that 1919A4 for an M2. Also of note is that most field artillery and armed naval vessels at the time of the American Revolution were privately held. ( on the BLUE team ) |
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Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
Just in case any one is listening. If I did own an 80mm mortar - I'm not hiring a crew to fire the damn thing. With the cost of that sort of ammo you better believe it will be me dropping each round down that tube.. As for a 1919A4 - who needs a crew. All you need is a (wheeled option) golf club bag with a few ammo cans strapped on with bungee cords, And if your Arnold... you would upgrade that 1919A4 for an M2. Also of note is that most field artillery and armed naval vessels at the time of the American Revolution were privately held. ( on the BLUE team ) View Quote If you let me watch, I'd hump shells for you. |
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Originally Posted By williewvr: Nolo needs to trademark the "Soon", I saw where he has plans for somewhere else (he mentioned it in a post) and can't remember where he's attacking next. I for one, am glad someone has decided to fight. Waiting to see when our rights will eventually be gone was a losing strategy from the start. View Quote I hope he goes after 41-p if it's implemented. |
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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
If you let me watch, I'd hump shells for you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Originally Posted By ProfGAB101:
Just in case any one is listening. If I did own an 80mm mortar - I'm not hiring a crew to fire the damn thing. With the cost of that sort of ammo you better believe it will be me dropping each round down that tube.. As for a 1919A4 - who needs a crew. All you need is a (wheeled option) golf club bag with a few ammo cans strapped on with bungee cords, And if your Arnold... you would upgrade that 1919A4 for an M2. Also of note is that most field artillery and armed naval vessels at the time of the American Revolution were privately held. ( on the BLUE team ) If you let me watch, I'd hump shells for you. Let me know when you are done humping his shells and I will offer to carry them for him..... |
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:
http://www.ammoland.com/2015/12/dismissal-of-post-1986-machinegun-ban-challenge-appealed/#comment-1910333 Thank you Dick Heller and the Heller Foundation for continuing to fight for our rights! View Quote I've read the opening of the appeal, looks good, I'll be wading through the 130 pages this week. |
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Originally Posted By Bubbles:
http://www.ammoland.com/2015/12/dismissal-of-post-1986-machinegun-ban-challenge-appealed/#comment-1910333 Thank you Dick Heller and the Heller Foundation for continuing to fight for our rights! View Quote They did the NRA doesn’t wish to really fight for our rights they declined. Read more: http://www.ammoland.com/2015/12/dismissal-of-post-1986-machinegun-ban-challenge-appealed/#ixzz3tZmu46zB Under Creative Commons License: Attribution Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook |
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AKsala~With white privilege comes white responsibility.
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Just wanted to post this quote from another thread.
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By SleepingBirdDog:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Just filed a supplemental authority letter in a 9th circuit gun case Forward! View Quote I love you. View Quote The question should be: wait. 9th circuit case? View Quote |
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Maybe it is time we change management at the NRA and get them on board with our fight.
$300 NRA Life Memberships (Yes, you get voting rights to pick the board!) |
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Stephen/Nolo recently joined me in a Ninth Circuit appeal that has been awaiting argument for roughly 2.5 years. It deals with Hawai'i County's handgun policy, the State of Hawaii s long arm carry ban and Hawaii's ban on the ownership of switchblades, butterfly knives and tasers/electric guns. The appeal might also address Hawaii's ban on the ownership of short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns. There are some procedural issues to sort out prior to knowing the last two for sure. It won't get heard until Peruta and my first carry case Baker v Kealoha get heard en banc.
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Originally Posted By williewvr: Nolo needs to trademark the "Soon", I saw where he has plans for somewhere else (he mentioned it in a post) and can't remember where he's attacking next. I for one, am glad someone has decided to fight. Waiting to see when our rights will eventually be gone was a losing strategy from the start. View Quote Agreed. If you play defensive chess and never make offensive moves you will lose the game every single time. |
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Originally Posted By wolfwood: Stephen/Nolo recently joined me in a Ninth Circuit appeal that has been awaiting argument for roughly 2.5 years. It deals with Hawai'i County's handgun policy, the State of Hawaii s long arm carry ban and Hawaii's ban on the ownership of switchblades, butterfly knives and tasers/electric guns. The appeal might also address Hawaii's ban on the ownership of short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns. There are some procedural issues to sort out prior to knowing the last two for sure. It won't get heard until Peruta and my first carry case Baker v Kealoha get heard en banc. View Quote Good luck, I hope it goes well! |
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Good luck, I hope it goes well! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By wolfwood:
Stephen/Nolo recently joined me in a Ninth Circuit appeal that has been awaiting argument for roughly 2.5 years. It deals with Hawai'i County's handgun policy, the State of Hawaii s long arm carry ban and Hawaii's ban on the ownership of switchblades, butterfly knives and tasers/electric guns. The appeal might also address Hawaii's ban on the ownership of short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns. There are some procedural issues to sort out prior to knowing the last two for sure. It won't get heard until Peruta and my first carry case Baker v Kealoha get heard en banc. Good luck, I hope it goes well! We're going to need a lot of luck on cases that are beyond "carry/bear", because SCOTUS didn't take the Friedman v. Highland Park: http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/113015zor_3e04.pdf This is almost an invitation for the anti-states to simply copy Highland Park's law, which has no grandfathering, just a 90 day period to "disable" or sell/move the banned firearm/magazine out of the area. |
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Originally Posted By movingalong:
We're going to need a lot of luck on cases that are beyond "carry/bear", because SCOTUS didn't take the Friedman v. Highland Park: http://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/113015zor_3e04.pdf This is almost an invitation for the anti-states to simply copy Highland Park's law, which has no grandfathering, just a 90 day period to "disable" or sell/move the banned firearm/magazine out of the area. View Quote Almost an invitation? They are ringing the dinner bell on this one as loudly as they can. Friedman was only the latest in SCOTUS conveying they have no interest in expanding or at least upholding Heller. Kennedy appears to have gone as far as he is willing to go and may have joined his colleges who are outright hostile to the idea of the 2A protecting an individual right. This is not good. |
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Maybe it is time we change management at the NRA and get them on board with our fight. $300 NRA Life Memberships (Yes, you get voting rights to pick the board!) View Quote LOL. Check IM again. |
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Originally Posted By dillehayd:
LOL. Check IM again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dillehayd:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Maybe it is time we change management at the NRA and get them on board with our fight. $300 NRA Life Memberships (Yes, you get voting rights to pick the board!) LOL. Check IM again. WTF is up with that avatar son? |
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Originally Posted By E-Mag:
Because they said so. They are not used to people actually calling them on their BS. While there have been instances before they are rather uncommon. By issuing rulings based on pretzel logic they painted themselves in this corner but they refuse to admit that they did. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By E-Mag:
Originally Posted By mrX001:
In the Watson Family Gun Trust Form 1 denial letter the BATFE argues that "Where a trust is not an entity recognized as a "person” under the applicable law, it cannot make or hold property and is disregarded. Consequently, in terms of an unincorporated trust, ATF must disregard such a non-entity under the GCA and consider the individual acting on behalf of the trust to be the proposed maker/possessor of the machinegun.” How does the ATF reconcile the obvious contradiction that trusts make, register, and possess other non-machinegun NFA items? X And also used to the Judge siding with them when someone DOES call them on it...although their track record with that hasnt been as good recently there have been a few judges seemingly annoyed by their usual tactics |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheTaxMonkey:
Just wanted to post this quote from another thread. Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By SleepingBirdDog:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Just filed a supplemental authority letter in a 9th circuit gun case Forward! I love you. The question should be: wait. 9th circuit case? I agree, this how our side goes active. Hell I read on another forum where a guy joined some local citizens against guns bull, just so he'd know what they were doing and tipped business off when they were about to stage a protest. |
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Originally Posted By Quickva:
I agree, this how our side goes active. Hell I read on another forum where a guy joined some local citizens against guns bull, just so he'd know what they were doing and tipped business off when they were about to stage a protest. View Quote That's how we will successfully fight this: people getting together, educating themselves and others and then acting. |
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Originally Posted By wolfwood: Stephen/Nolo recently joined me in a Ninth Circuit appeal that has been awaiting argument for roughly 2.5 years. It deals with Hawai'i County's handgun policy, the State of Hawaii s long arm carry ban and Hawaii's ban on the ownership of switchblades, butterfly knives and tasers/electric guns. The appeal might also address Hawaii's ban on the ownership of short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns. There are some procedural issues to sort out prior to knowing the last two for sure. It won't get heard until Peruta and my first carry case Baker v Kealoha get heard en banc. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Freedom_Or_DEATH:
WTF is up with that avatar son? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Freedom_Or_DEATH:
Originally Posted By dillehayd:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Maybe it is time we change management at the NRA and get them on board with our fight. $300 NRA Life Memberships (Yes, you get voting rights to pick the board!) LOL. Check IM again. WTF is up with that avatar son? JustJim sold his dignity for $24. |
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I was busy last night. I'm trying to crank a few out every evening, sheesh -XCRmonger
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
In free America, those obsolete M4's would be sold to the tax paying citizens for scrap value. Limit 3 per tax payer. Must bring previous form 1040 to prove tax paying status. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By rinteln1:
http://images.military.com/media/news/equipment/army-m4-600.jpg Army want's to upgrade M4's to M4A1+ Machine Guns [/URL[url=http://]http://]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/03/18/army-wants-upgrades-improve-m4a1-carbines-performance-accuracy.html?ESRC=dod.n Seems to be the new normal In free America, those obsolete M4's would be sold to the tax paying citizens for scrap value. Limit 3 per tax payer. Must bring previous form 1040 to prove tax paying status. In a free America the 1040 would be gone too. Some other much simpler, less invasive means of proving you're paying your fair (much lower than current) share. |
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I'll post something later. California carry has a blog about it. I personally don't like the guy who runs it but he has kept up with the case.
http://blog.californiarighttocarry.org/?page_id=846 Chuck Michel has the pleadings for the case as well. http://michellawyers.com/young-v-hawaii/ |
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GOA filed amicus brief in the Watson v. Lynch case today.
http://media.wix.com/ugd/c601ae_565005b4bdfd488799849128632557f1.pdf |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
GOA filed amicus brief in the Watson v. Lynch case today. http://media.wix.com/ugd/c601ae_565005b4bdfd488799849128632557f1.pdf View Quote |
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Mosins, Mausers, Garands, oh my!
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Originally Posted By Porcine83:
In a free America the 1040 would be gone too. Some other much simpler, less invasive means of proving you're paying your fair (much lower than current) share. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Porcine83:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By rinteln1:
http://images.military.com/media/news/equipment/army-m4-600.jpg Army want's to upgrade M4's to M4A1+ Machine Guns [/URL[url=http://]http://]http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/03/18/army-wants-upgrades-improve-m4a1-carbines-performance-accuracy.html?ESRC=dod.n Seems to be the new normal In free America, those obsolete M4's would be sold to the tax paying citizens for scrap value. Limit 3 per tax payer. Must bring previous form 1040 to prove tax paying status. In a free America the 1040 would be gone too. Some other much simpler, less invasive means of proving you're paying your fair (much lower than current) share. In free America, a DD214 showing honorable combat service or honorable service leading to retirement would exempt you from even a simpler, less invasive means of being taxed. And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I am not a veteran and would not benefit financially from such a policy. I'm just an opinionated taxpayer who would rather see a tax break going to those that defended us than those that do nothing for our country. |
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Originally Posted By wolfwood:
I'll post something later. California carry has a blog about it. I personally don't like the guy who runs it but he has kept up with the case. http://blog.californiarighttocarry.org/?page_id=846 Chuck Michel has the pleadings for the case as well. http://michellawyers.com/young-v-hawaii/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wolfwood:
I'll post something later. California carry has a blog about it. I personally don't like the guy who runs it but he has kept up with the case. http://blog.californiarighttocarry.org/?page_id=846 Chuck Michel has the pleadings for the case as well. http://michellawyers.com/young-v-hawaii/ Excellent work and thanks for keeping everyone posted. Edit: Page 19 from the GOA amicus brief Nolo just posted: At each step along their evolutionary chain,12 the same claims about lethality,
rate of fire, and effectiveness could be made that are now being made by the government regarding machineguns: that these “new” firearms have a rate of fire far in excess of those available from their predecessors. That puts these “new” firearms on a different plane than those which came before. To use the government’s words, each generation of “new” firearms have “murderously effective firepower” compared to the last generation of firearms. These “new” firearms enable the shooter to engage a far greater number of targets more effectively than their predecessors. But Heller rejected such arguments as: bordering on the frivolous, that only those arms in existence in the 18th century are protected by the Second Amendment. We do not interpret constitutional rights that way. Just as the First Amendment protects modern forms of communications, ... and the Fourth Amendment applies to modern forms of search, ... the Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms, even those that were not in existence at the time of the founding.13 [Id. at 582.] |
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I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant.
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Originally Posted By crux:
I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant. View Quote For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! |
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By crux:
I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant. For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! |
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Originally Posted By crux:
I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant. View Quote No more amicus in support of our briefs, now it's the gov turn to file and we will see who files amicus against us. |
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Originally Posted By Undefined: For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Undefined: Originally Posted By crux: I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant. For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! Just finished paying off my Endowment membership a month or so ago. Nolo puts his name on the ballot and he has my vote. Actually, there are several posters here I would feel good about voting for for Board membership. And... Several I would vote off the planet... Just sayin'... |
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Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse:
Just finished paying off my Endowment membership a month or so ago. Nolo puts his name on the ballot and he has my vote. Actually, there are several posters here I would feel good about voting for for Board membership. And... Several I would vote off the planet... Just sayin'... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By crux:
I'm going to tell NRA next time they call that they need to at least file a good Amicus in favor of ending 922o before they get another penny. It's the least they can do to be relevant. For years I've told them to do something about the NFA or shut the fuck up. Now I'm a life member (voting rights) and can work on firing the old guard. Nolo for NRA President! Just finished paying off my Endowment membership a month or so ago. Nolo puts his name on the ballot and he has my vote. Actually, there are several posters here I would feel good about voting for for Board membership. And... Several I would vote off the planet... Just sayin'... I want Nolo in court. Vote in people for office that value and support his opinions. Like Ted. Nugent. And Ted. Cruz. |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
GOA filed amicus brief in the Watson v. Lynch case today. http://media.wix.com/ugd/c601ae_565005b4bdfd488799849128632557f1.pdf View Quote A bit of an historical nit-pick: On pg 13, the brief talks about how the semi-auto M-1 rifle outclassed the Soviet Mosin and German Mauser. They did this in the Hollis amicus too. The nit is that we weren't shooting at the Soviets! A better comaprison would have been the Japanese Arisaka. |
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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong." - Voltaire
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Originally Posted By Pat_H:
How many briefs were filed in support of each, Watson and Hollis? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Pat_H:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
No more amicus in support of our briefs, now it's the gov turn to file and we will see who files amicus against us. How many briefs were filed in support of each, Watson and Hollis? 2 in Hollis 1 in Watson |
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Originally Posted By Mariner82:
A bit of an historical nit-pick: On pg 13, the brief talks about how the semi-auto M-1 rifle outclassed the Soviet Mosin and German Mauser. They did this in the Hollis amicus too. The nit is that we weren't shooting at the Soviets! A better comparison would have been the Japanese Arisaka. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mariner82:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
GOA filed amicus brief in the Watson v. Lynch case today. http://media.wix.com/ugd/c601ae_565005b4bdfd488799849128632557f1.pdf A bit of an historical nit-pick: On pg 13, the brief talks about how the semi-auto M-1 rifle outclassed the Soviet Mosin and German Mauser. They did this in the Hollis amicus too. The nit is that we weren't shooting at the Soviets! A better comparison would have been the Japanese Arisaka. Someone needs to mention that Marine in the Texas Bell Tower with brain tumor and a bolt action... |
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It is time the "SPORTING PURPOSE" argument dies a horrible death...the Second Amendment had absolutely nothing to do with sporting...
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BUMP for good luck! XD
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Gov responds in Hollis on 12/15 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Freedom_Or_DEATH:
BUMP for good luck! XD Gov responds in Hollis on 12/15 A form 1 and a form 4 are due any second, crossing fingers for both on the 15th! XD |
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Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Gov responds in Hollis on 12/15 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By Freedom_Or_DEATH:
BUMP for good luck! XD Gov responds in Hollis on 12/15 I hope to not see you in Dallas soon, as it were. |
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Originally Posted By MauserMatt:
Definitely can't wait to see how the gov can defend their position in the face of truth......... Keep up the great work Nolo!! THANK YOU TO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MauserMatt:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Gov responds in Hollis on 12/15 Definitely can't wait to see how the gov can defend their position in the face of truth......... Keep up the great work Nolo!! THANK YOU TO YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM!!! Since when does the truth matter to the anti gunners? NEVER. If they cared about the truth, they would have no argument to stand on. |
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Come on gov. It's three after
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I wonder how close to midnight they wait to respond.
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