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Posted: 4/21/2015 8:02:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xviperx420]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TescoVee:
So you're saying that we shouldn't send a bunch of forms to the BATFE that will ultimately be disapproved and whose only tangible effect will be to increase the already too long waiting times for other and future members of the NFA community? I'm Shocked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TescoVee:
Originally Posted By NoloContendere:
Originally Posted By llamas2:
I am very excited by all this. I think this is the time for everybody to flood the ATF with applications to make one. One thing thoough that kinda irks me is that the law firm copyrighted the complaint so that I have to pay if I want to copy it.  He's making the face at the third part. The part about the law firm copyrighting the complaint. The part I highlighted in red for you, so it's easier to find.
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Posted: 4/21/2015 8:07:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: linny]
[#2]
Nolo in his "courtroom casual". How can we not lose?
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:16:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By linny: Nolo in his "courtroom casual". How can we not lose? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/chi-foo/Gunther_zpsb8dq7uln.jpg Join date ? Post count ? |
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Posted: 4/21/2015 11:46:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: linny]
[#4]
Sorry. I'm more of a lurker. I spend most of my time on another forum, just been reading this thread though.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:30:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By us-kiwi:
Join date ? Post count ?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By us-kiwi:
Originally Posted By linny:
Nolo in his "courtroom casual". How can we not lose? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/chi-foo/Gunther_zpsb8dq7uln.jpg
Join date ? Post count ?
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:59:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Possum-Sammich: For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:00:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conju: Times eleventy billion. It simply cannot be overstated, If you can't be bothered to follow these rules then don't show up. Period. If you show up in this courtroom wearing camo, or being disrespectful or open carrying or any other nonsense our side can't seem to help but engage in, then I hope someone punches you right in your stupid mouth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conju: Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich: For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." Times eleventy billion. It simply cannot be overstated, If you can't be bothered to follow these rules then don't show up. Period. If you show up in this courtroom wearing camo, or being disrespectful or open carrying or any other nonsense our side can't seem to help but engage in, then I hope someone punches you right in your stupid mouth. I will be "that guy" for anyone who pulls some of this BS but doesn't get arrested for contempt. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:08:49 AM EDT
[#8]
You know some fucking retard, whether its a sovereign citizen type or someone who thinks the gold fringe on the flag in the room is wrong, will show up to be an eye sore and a PITA.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:41:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Good luck and God speed tomorrow.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:43:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJSully421:
Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJSully421:
Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich:
For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? I wouldn't. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 8:58:04 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJSully421:
I will be "that guy" for anyone who pulls some of this BS but doesn't get arrested for contempt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJSully421:
Originally Posted By Conju:
Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich:
For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." Times eleventy billion. It simply cannot be overstated, If you can't be bothered to follow these rules then don't show up. Period. If you show up in this courtroom wearing camo, or being disrespectful or open carrying or any other nonsense our side can't seem to help but engage in, then I hope someone punches you right in your stupid mouth. I will be "that guy" for anyone who pulls some of this BS but doesn't get arrested for contempt. Well....if you happen to see someone wearing a BFL lapel pin with the BFL "LOGO" on it.....smack him for me would ya... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:14:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boom_Stick:
You know some fucking retard, whether its a sovereign citizen type or someone who thinks the gold fringe on the flag in the room is wrong, will show up to be an eye sore and a PITA. We're more likely to see antigun retards showing up with signs. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:20:50 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Good luck and God speed tomorrow. Cant be said enough!!! Good luck Nolo!!!!! |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:22:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpel308:
I wouldn't. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpel308:
Originally Posted By AJSully421:
Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich:
For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? I wouldn't. Yeah, no. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING that makes you stand out as a 2A person!!! |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:24:07 AM EDT
[#15]
We're proud of you councilor. Be sure to wear matching socks.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:27:26 AM EDT
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How soon after the oral arguments tomorrow will the transcript be posted?
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:31:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imdandman:
How soon after the oral arguments tomorrow will the transcript be posted? Soon 
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:33:54 AM EDT
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My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process.
Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:34:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By orpheus762x51:
Good luck and God speed tomorrow. This |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:34:30 AM EDT
[#20]
If you are having to be told how to behave during court, then maybe you oughta sit this one out.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:34:52 AM EDT
[#21]
Sleep WELL tonight Nolo!
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:41:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RevDeadCorpse]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pgh_mill_hunkey: This Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pgh_mill_hunkey: Originally Posted By orpheus762x51: Good luck and God speed tomorrow. This And even more of this. Give 'em Hell Nolo!!!!  |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:47:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Hammer:
My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:54:10 AM EDT
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I understand, and fully endorse, the effort to prevent clownshoes from showing up and drawing negative attention to our cause
but the way some of you are talking about it, I get the impression that you actually appreciate the decorum
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Posted: 4/22/2015 10:56:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankDrebin: Originally Posted By The_Hammer: My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy. http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg That's udderly ridiculous! |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:06:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxTheRabbit:
I understand, and fully endorse, the effort to prevent clownshoes from showing up and drawing negative attention to our cause but the way some of you are talking about it, I get the impression that you actually appreciate the decorum I actually do appreciate it. Have you ever seen the court scene in idiocracy? Why would I want court to be anything other than a formal occasion?
There's somethings in this world you better plan on wearing a suit to, and acting right. Federal court is, and should be one of them. 
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:06:21 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic:
That's udderly ridiculous!
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy.
http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg That's udderly ridiculous!
I'm udderly surprised to see that I was able explicitly articulate my concern
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:07:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590:
I actually do appreciate it. Have you ever seen the court scene in idiocracy? Why would I want court to be anything other than a formal occasion?
There's somethings in this world you better plan on wearing a suit to, and acting right. Federal court is, and should be one of them. http://i.imgur.com/qDEsJEt.jpgg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590:
Originally Posted By MaxTheRabbit:
I understand, and fully endorse, the effort to prevent clownshoes from showing up and drawing negative attention to our cause but the way some of you are talking about it, I get the impression that you actually appreciate the decorum I actually do appreciate it. Have you ever seen the court scene in idiocracy? Why would I want court to be anything other than a formal occasion?
There's somethings in this world you better plan on wearing a suit to, and acting right. Federal court is, and should be one of them. http://i.imgur.com/qDEsJEt.jpgg I like sex, and money |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:19:19 AM EDT
[#29]
Good luck, Nolo. Thanks for doing what you do.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:23:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic: That's udderly ridiculous! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic: Originally Posted By FrankDrebin: Originally Posted By The_Hammer: My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy. http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg That's udderly ridiculous! Don't have a cow man. I had a beef with the other guys choice of words too, but we're just shootin' the bull here... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:24:34 AM EDT
[#31]
good luck and pl,ease kick some atf ass nolo
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:27:51 AM EDT
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Just wondering NOLO, you staying at a holiday Inn tonight?
Give 'em Hell and welcome to Texas!!! |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:46:43 AM EDT
[#33]
Good luck tomorrow.
So, anyone attending, that will be willing to give us a play by play after the show? |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 11:57:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Don't have a cow man. I had a beef with the other guys choice of words too, but we're just shootin' the bull here... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RevDeadCorpse: Originally Posted By semiautomatic: Originally Posted By FrankDrebin: Originally Posted By The_Hammer: My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy. http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg That's udderly ridiculous! Don't have a cow man. I had a beef with the other guys choice of words too, but we're just shootin' the bull here... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:10:17 PM EDT
[#35]
HOpe all is going in our favor. And i hope the gun owners understand how important it is to be professional in this setting. This is a battle to prove WE the people who own guns are your neighbors, your bank teller, the gal you strike a random convo with waiting for a table at your favorite restaurant.
Best of luck during this and i hope the court is packed with professionals and the antis show their true colors and make a fool of themselves. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:13:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Beach]
[#36]
I can't be there but will someone do me a favor...if some fool shows his ass and hurts our side of this...will someone please step up and stomp a TEXAS SIZED mud hole in his ass out in the parking lot for me?
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:14:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diesel_Maximus_2992:
I believe you just steaked you claim to the internets for the day good sir Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Diesel_Maximus_2992:
Originally Posted By RevDeadCorpse:
Originally Posted By semiautomatic:
Originally Posted By FrankDrebin:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy.
http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg That's udderly ridiculous!
Don't have a cow man. I had a beef with the other guys choice of words too, but we're just shootin' the bull here... I second this motion.... |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 12:50:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: Yeah, no. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING that makes you stand out as a 2A person!!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: Originally Posted By kpel308: Originally Posted By AJSully421: Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich: For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: ***SNIP*** 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. ***SNIP*** Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? I wouldn't. Yeah, no. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING that makes you stand out as a 2A person!!! What about one of these lapel pins?  |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:12:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beach:
I can't be there but will someone do me a favor...if some fool shows his ass and hurts our side of this...will someone please step up and stomp a TEXAS SIZED mud hole in his ass out in the parking lot for me? |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:38:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankDrebin:
Originally Posted By The_Hammer:
My ONLY concern about tomorrow is someone from "our side" making a complete and udder fool of themselves, giving us all a black eye in the process. Good luck tomorrow Nolo, I appreciate all that you are doing! Yes. No one be this guy.
http://i.imgur.com/afAVh6A.jpg  
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Posted: 4/22/2015 1:43:22 PM EDT
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Good luck to the 2nd Amendment and the brave men representing it tomorrow.
During the Google vs Sun arguments, there were tweets as well as websites posting from the courtroom. Is that normal and is there any chance of it tomorrow. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 07yzryder:
HOpe all is going in our favor. And i hope the gun owners understand how important it is to be professional in this setting. This is a battle to prove WE the people who own guns are your neighbors, your bank teller, the gal you strike a random convo with waiting for a table at your favorite restaurant. Best of luck during this and i hope the court is packed with professionals and the antis show their true colors and make a fool of themselves. Meanwhile, just pray to God that Snowboots and Fatty don't show up. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:05:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic:
What about one of these lapel pins? http://www.allprofitallfree.com/lapel-pin.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By semiautomatic:
Originally Posted By BladedRonin:
Originally Posted By kpel308:
Originally Posted By AJSully421:
Originally Posted By Possum-Sammich:
For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: ***SNIP*** 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. ***SNIP*** Question on #2. BFL Lapel pin? First, will it violate your #2... next, will the frigging Feds let me in with a tiny lapel pin that I could possibly stab someone in the jugular with? I wouldn't. Yeah, no. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING that makes you stand out as a 2A person!!! What about one of these lapel pins? http://www.allprofitallfree.com/lapel-pin.jpg I can assure you that lapel pins are not appropriate, and they will accomplish nothing good whatsoever. I have never seen a lapel pin, novelty tie, funny belt buckle, etc in a federal courtroom, at least worn by anyone that wanted to help their side. Go read this: http://baconlawfirm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dress-and-Attire-Guidelines-2014-new-3.pdf Note that they specifically disallow any clothing that "attempts to display any message relating to any pending case or class of cases". IMHO, that covers any pin, tie, etc that you think supports Nolo, or would let another arfcomer find you in the crowd. Anyway, that dress code is the absolute minimum standards, and we should be striving that anyone in that courtroom looks like an attorney ready to make an appearance. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:13:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:19:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:22:31 PM EDT
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good luck and God speed good sir.
I hope to see this open the floodgates to a repeal of all infringements upon our God given rights and pave the way for an america for our children that was the true vision of our founding fathers. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:23:57 PM EDT
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Give em hell Nolo, and give us happy switches.
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Posted: 4/22/2015 2:24:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Target556x45mm:
Give em hell Nolo, and give us happy switches. this. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 3:08:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: I can assure you that lapel pins are not appropriate, and they will accomplish nothing good whatsoever. I have never seen a lapel pin, novelty tie, funny belt buckle, etc in a federal courtroom, at least worn by anyone that wanted to help their side. Go read this: http://baconlawfirm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dress-and-Attire-Guidelines-2014-new-3.pdf Note that they specifically disallow any clothing that "attempts to display any message relating to any pending case or class of cases". IMHO, that covers any pin, tie, etc that you think supports Nolo, or would let another arfcomer find you in the crowd. Anyway, that dress code is the absolute minimum standards, and we should be striving that anyone in that courtroom looks like an attorney ready to make an appearance. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: Originally Posted By semiautomatic: What about one of these lapel pins? http://www.allprofitallfree.com/lapel-pin.jpg I can assure you that lapel pins are not appropriate, and they will accomplish nothing good whatsoever. I have never seen a lapel pin, novelty tie, funny belt buckle, etc in a federal courtroom, at least worn by anyone that wanted to help their side. Go read this: http://baconlawfirm.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dress-and-Attire-Guidelines-2014-new-3.pdf Note that they specifically disallow any clothing that "attempts to display any message relating to any pending case or class of cases". IMHO, that covers any pin, tie, etc that you think supports Nolo, or would let another arfcomer find you in the crowd. Anyway, that dress code is the absolute minimum standards, and we should be striving that anyone in that courtroom looks like an attorney ready to make an appearance. After seeing the type of people that walk into jury duty I never would have thought that federal would be so restrictive. It's hard to see an American Flag pin being viewed as biased but in this day and age I wouldn't be surprised. Guess it's better just to play it safe. |
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Posted: 4/22/2015 4:06:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Possum-Sammich:
For those of you going to the oral arguments, here are a few ground rules: 1. Dress like you're going to church (not cowboy church). Coat, tie, slacks, dress shoes, and socks at a minimum. 2. No signs, tshirts with slogans, logos, or anything indicating what side you support. 3. Leave all electronics in the car. If you have a Texas bar card, you can bring in an e-mail device. 4. You will be searched multiple times. 5. IMPORTANT: No reacting to oral arguments. No cheering, laughing, shaking your head, smiling, NOTHING. No matter what BS is spewed, keep a straight face. The judge will have you removed, and can have you jailed. 6. Stand up when the judge comes in and when she leaves. Stay standing until she sits. 7. It's better not to pack one side of the courtroom. Spread out. If you want to sit behind Nolo in "his" side, it's the one closer to the jury box. 8. This is not the place to stage an open carry demonstration, or any demonstration. 9. The judge can tell who the spectators support most of the time. If you act like a fool, a basement dweller, or a sovereign citizen, do you want her thinking, "These guys are getting machine guns?" 10. Let Nolo do his thing. If you want to talk to him later, do so outside. Don't swarm his table before or after the arguments. 11. Parking at the courthouse is an SOB. 12. There may not be a transcript available for months. Court reporters want to get paid for them, and it's frowned upon for a party to post it freely. That said, take paper notes and share them here afterword. 13. If the press approaches you, remember that they are not your friend. Don't talk about all the cool stuff you're going to build. Best bet is to refer them to Nolo. 14. The judge has the ability to put you in jail, at any moment, for contempt. Arrive on time, sit there, listen, and leave. If she addresses you, in the audience, for something: Stand up, call her "your honor", and apologize for whatever you did wrong. Don't make excuses. "I apologize, your honor. It won't happen again." I would hope this applies to people thinking of dressing up as a founding father. We don't need a Ben Franklin look-alike in the court. |
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