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Link Posted: 10/31/2014 10:41:10 AM EDT
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There is no humor there whasoever. They're an angry, bitter bunch.
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Why don't you go to Free Republic, where anyone who isn't absolutely lockstep bubble chamber is deep sixed?

Do they have lulz though?

Sounds pretty serious, probably not.



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There is no humor there whasoever. They're an angry, bitter bunch.


Worse than this place?
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Anyone care to explain how fucking DOPE got made into some kind of freedom metric?

Gets tiring hearing about pot all the time here.

Last time I checked, it doesn't say "hightimes.com" in the address bar.



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OP is actually right.

This place is filled with anti-freedom mobys.


Are you talking about all those pro War on Drugs guys?


Anyone care to explain how fucking DOPE got made into some kind of freedom metric?

Gets tiring hearing about pot all the time here.

Last time I checked, it doesn't say "hightimes.com" in the address bar.



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Yeah, well, it doesn't say "deranged Republican circle-derp" either.  God forbid anyone discuss ARs or firearms.  Now excuse me while I get back to the thread "26 Ways You Can Tell Fartbama Is a Secret Mooslim"
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 11:11:52 AM EDT
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it says "AR15.FUCKING.com"

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Heres a great idea. Let's rally around a guy that says none of us have a right to own these!


(Arfcom conservatives in a nutshell)
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 11:14:03 AM EDT
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We are so much better off right now.
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We are so much better off right now.
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We are so much better off right now.

From a 2A standpoint, aren't we?  The only reason we are not all criminals in this post-Sandy world is because of the (R) hard-Obama stance.

I voted for Romney because I sincerely believe in his economic chops, but his administration would have let a whole bunch of gun regulations through without a fight.
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 12:24:32 PM EDT
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From a 2A standpoint, aren't we?  The only reason we are not all criminals in this post-Sandy world is because of the (R) hard-Obama stance.

I voted for Romney because I sincerely believe in his economic chops, but his administration would have let a whole bunch of gun regulations through without a fight.
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We are so much better off right now.

From a 2A standpoint, aren't we?  The only reason we are not all criminals in this post-Sandy world is because of the (R) hard-Obama stance.

I voted for Romney because I sincerely believe in his economic chops, but his administration would have let a whole bunch of gun regulations through without a fight.


Sorry, don't see it.  Obama made it an administration priority, and still failed.
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Meh, It's been worse.
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From a 2A standpoint, aren't we?  The only reason we are not all criminals in this post-Sandy world is because of the (R) hard-Obama stance.

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Where would these gun regulations have come from?
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Sorry, don't see it.  Obama made it an administration priority, and still failed.
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We are so much better off right now.

From a 2A standpoint, aren't we?  The only reason we are not all criminals in this post-Sandy world is because of the (R) hard-Obama stance.

I voted for Romney because I sincerely believe in his economic chops, but his administration would have let a whole bunch of gun regulations through without a fight.


Sorry, don't see it.  Obama made it an administration priority, and still failed.


Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 12:51:13 PM EDT
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Had Romney won, they would have made compromises and reached across the aisle.
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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.

Link Posted: 10/31/2014 12:57:35 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure that most of the Mobys simply changed their tactics to trolling the folks with Libertarian leanings. Takes a little bit longer to out them, but the effect is the same. Causes strife and internal division.
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Use it. It will improve your browsing experience here.

Just wish ignored users wouldn't show up in quotes.

As a side note, interesting how many on my list are in this thread.




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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.

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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.


Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.
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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.
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Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control
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Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.
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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.


Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.


What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

What's self evident is you are talking out of your ass.
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Remember the good old days when being conservative meant picking on Dukakis for his furlough program?

Nowadays, derpers on the internet apparently think unless you want to let William Horton buy a gun, you are a "Moby."

That goes for people who don't wear Carhartt to work, who live closer than 1 mile from their nearest neighbor, who desire to learn new things, who don't think Obama is the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who actually apply a modicum of independent thought to the never-ending stream of derp posted from sites like Breitbart or "Top Right News," or any number of things that those who have gone off the derp end associate with "liberalism" these days.

This thread says everything about the state of this board lately: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1665083_I_m_shocked___2x4_s_aren_t_2x4_.html&page=1  I almost felt bad for Subnet in there.  I'm sure some think he's a "Moby" though.  Caring about reality and facts as opposed to going off halfcocked is a "Leftist."  

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Lmao leftist gun control? You think restricting felons is the most egregious gun control measure in the US.  That is pretty fucked up considering our current restrictions, and I clearly stated my position that any gun control no matter how benign against the law abiding citizenry is much worse than the most draconian measures against felons.  If your really believe that than you have bought hook, line, and sinker the increasing leftist narrative in the county that actions should not have consequences, and the abandonment of personal responsibility.  You simply don't have a clue how anything works regarding the realities of the legal system,  and you argue fantasy positions that will never happen.  So yea, that sounds pretty leftist, or more likely just incredibly naive in your case.  Never thought I would see someone essentially argue that the restrictions on felons should be lifted before the machine gun ban.


Remember the good old days when being conservative meant picking on Dukakis for his furlough program?

Nowadays, derpers on the internet apparently think unless you want to let William Horton buy a gun, you are a "Moby."

That goes for people who don't wear Carhartt to work, who live closer than 1 mile from their nearest neighbor, who desire to learn new things, who don't think Obama is the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who actually apply a modicum of independent thought to the never-ending stream of derp posted from sites like Breitbart or "Top Right News," or any number of things that those who have gone off the derp end associate with "liberalism" these days.

This thread says everything about the state of this board lately: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1665083_I_m_shocked___2x4_s_aren_t_2x4_.html&page=1  I almost felt bad for Subnet in there.  I'm sure some think he's a "Moby" though.  Caring about reality and facts as opposed to going off halfcocked is a "Leftist."  

In before Aiden calls me a Moby again.






This.  Except that O is the leader of ISIS, not the brotherhood.  duh
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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.


Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control


Or you can just look at the voting records of Congress when it comes to legislation being put forward by a President of their own party.
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What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.


Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.


What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

What's self evident is you are talking out of your ass.


So your contention is that a Republican House and Senate would have stood up to President Romney on principle? Just like they stood up to Bush, amirite?
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Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.
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Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.


Let me help you guys out:

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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.


Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control


Or you can just look at the voting records of Congress when it comes to legislation being put forward by a President of their own party.


Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

That's called history.
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What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.


Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.


What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

What's self evident is you are talking out of your ass.


Are those restrictions in place in Massachusetts? Yes. Were they in effect in part or in whole during his tenure? Yes. Had Romney place any concerted effort to have them repealed? Yes? NO...
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Are those restrictions in place in Massachusetts? Yes. Were they in effect in part or in whole during his tenure? Yes. Had Romney place any concerted effort to have them repealed? Yes? NO...
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Only for "common sense" stuff like mag limits, assault weapons, registration,  etc.


Overall, agreed. These things (and more) probably would have come to pass Nationally under a Romney led Administration. See Massachusetts regs as they are self-evident.


What did the Massachussetts legislature look like that passed those laws?

What's self evident is you are talking out of your ass.


Are those restrictions in place in Massachusetts? Yes. Were they in effect in part or in whole during his tenure? Yes. Had Romney place any concerted effort to have them repealed? Yes? NO...


Just avoid reality if you'd like... that does explain your politics.
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Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

That's called history.
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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.


Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control


Or you can just look at the voting records of Congress when it comes to legislation being put forward by a President of their own party.


Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

That's called history.


That was sarcasm, right?  Tell me that was sarcasm please.
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Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.


Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control


Or you can just look at the voting records of Congress when it comes to legislation being put forward by a President of their own party.


Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

That's called history.


I have many criticisms of Bush, but he wasn't anti the way Romney is (not to mention that asshat McCain) and we both know it.
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I have many criticisms of Bush, but he wasn't anti the way Romney is (not to mention that asshat McCain) and we both know it.
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Because the Republicans fought him, which they did because he was a Democrat.

Kind of like why Republicans voted in Medicare Part D for Bush, but got their dander up over Obamacare. Socialized medicine is bad, unless a Republican is doing it. I'd bet gun control would be about the same.


Or you can just look at the voting records of congress wrt gun control


Or you can just look at the voting records of Congress when it comes to legislation being put forward by a President of their own party.


Yeah, I do. Bush (as the Moby's here are fond or saying) was a foaming at the mouth gun grabber who spent eight years screaming for an AWB renewal, and his own republican congress rejected his "demands".

That's called history.


I have many criticisms of Bush, but he wasn't anti the way Romney is (not to mention that asshat McCain) and we both know it.


We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.
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Yep
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WTF kind of response is that? You've said nothing. Please, explain yourself.
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Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


Ok, thanks

You had me worried for a minute, Joe
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Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.
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We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.


These guys are at best ex-democrats who vote libertarian.

It is quite obvious.

I wonder how they would rationalize Bush's nominations of Roberts and Alito..............who helped win Heller and McDonald for us?
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.


Passed under Bush, not really relevant to the discussion. We don't really have an example of what happens when a Republican potus with a Republican House and Senate wants gun control. We do have an example of that scenario and socialized medicine though.
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I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.
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Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.


You might read this page of posts again.
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These guys are at best ex-democrats who vote libertarian.

It is quite obvious.

I wonder how they would rationalize Bush's nominations of Roberts and Alito..............who helped win Heller and McDonald for us?
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.


These guys are at best ex-democrats who vote libertarian.

It is quite obvious.

I wonder how they would rationalize Bush's nominations of Roberts and Alito..............who helped win Heller and McDonald for us?


"These guys"? lol

You're cute. Not too bright, but cute.

So how do you think President McCain (who has repeatedly voted for gun control measures) would have been on gun rights?
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"These guys"? lol

You're cute. Not too bright, but cute.

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He's an asshole but he would have been so much better than Obongo that only an idiot would say otherwise.

Plus only an idiot would suggest that his SCOTUS picks would have been along the lines of Sotomayor and Kagan.

Look, why don't you at least admit that you would vote democrat if there was no libertarian party?
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That was sarcasm, right?  Tell me that was sarcasm please.


Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.


You might read this page of posts again.


Please link to the posts saying that Bush (not Romney or McCain) was a gun grabber who pushed anti-2A legislation.
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I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.
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That was sarcasm, right?  Tell me that was sarcasm please.


Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.


I see it every time his name is mentioned. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Polly want a fuckin' cracker....
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Passed under Bush, not really relevant to the discussion. We don't really have an example of what happens when a Republican potus with a Republican House and Senate wants gun control. We do have an example of that scenario and socialized medicine though.
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.


Passed under Bush, not really relevant to the discussion. We don't really have an example of what happens when a Republican potus with a Republican House and Senate wants gun control. We do have an example of that scenario and socialized medicine though.

Horseshit. You kids keep insisting a republican congress will cave to a republican president and it didn't fucking happen when we had a republican president and republican congress.
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You are right........on this page it was Romney being discussed.

Other threads for a long time have had members saying Bush was for the AWB.  This has been said numerous times.
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He's an asshole but he would have been so much better than Obongo that only an idiot would say otherwise.

Plus only an idiot would suggest that his SCOTUS picks would have been along the lines of Sotomayor and Kagan.

Look, why don't you at least admit that you would vote democrat if there was no libertarian party?
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"These guys"? lol

You're cute. Not too bright, but cute.

So how do you think President McCain (who has repeatedly voted for gun control measures) would have been on gun rights?


He's an asshole but he would have been so much better than Obongo that only an idiot would say otherwise.

Plus only an idiot would suggest that his SCOTUS picks would have been along the lines of Sotomayor and Kagan.

Look, why don't you at least admit that you would vote democrat if there was no libertarian party?


Lol

I've never voted for a libertarian for anything, I voted for Bush twice, and I even voted for Romney although admittedly that was knowing he'd lose my state and just trying to up his numbers as a way to communicate that there are non-liberal people in WA to our local folks. I admit I didn't vote for anyone for potus when McCain was on the ballot, I lived with that fucker all my life in AZ and I'll never vote for him for anything.

But I guess refusing to suck the dick of anyone who has an R by their name (no matter how much of a gun grabbing socialist they are) just makes me an eeeevvvvvvviiiiiilllllllll liberaltarian amirite? Most important election ever!
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I see it every time his name is mentioned. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Polly want a fuckin' cracker....
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That was sarcasm, right?  Tell me that was sarcasm please.


Sarcasm on my end, yes.

The political geniuses here want it both ways. They insist Bush was a gun grabber, they insist congress will do whatever the republican president wants, yet it didn't happen under Bush, and it wouldn't happen under Romney.


I've not seen all of these rampant claims that Bush was a gun grabber, smells like a strawman to me.


I see it every time his name is mentioned. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Bush said he was going to sign a ban renewal. Polly want a fuckin' cracker....


So, that'd be a no then?
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Moby:  "An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question."


Pic is of an artist with the same name.  Now you know.

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I have no idea whats going on.



Moby:  "An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question."


Pic is of an artist with the same name.  Now you know.




In that case, yes there is.
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Lol

I've never voted for a libertarian for anything, I voted for Bush twice, and I even voted for Romney although admittedly that was knowing he'd lose my state and just trying to up his numbers as a way to communicate that there are non-liberal people in WA to our local folks. I admit I didn't vote for anyone for potus when McCain was on the ballot, I lived with that fucker all my life in AZ and I'll never vote for him for anything.

But I guess refusing to suck the dick of anyone who has an R by their name (no matter how much of a gun grabbing socialist they are) just makes me an eeeevvvvvvviiiiiilllllllll liberaltarian amirite? Most important election ever!
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I am sorry, I don't believe you.

Romney and McCain would have been so much better than Obongo that even though they are far from perfect it isn't even close.

The flavor of your posts appear otherwise to me.

Maybe I am wrong but.............oh well, maybe I am wrong.
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Horseshit. You kids keep insisting a republican congress will cave to a republican president and it didn't fucking happen when we had a republican president and republican congress.
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We're talking about what congress will do. Based on their history, Congress will not suddenly support gun control because the republican president (allegedly) wants it.


Just like they wouldn't support socialized medicine? Or, on the other side, how Democrats wouldn't support invading a Middle Eastern country?



We have a half-century of gun control votes to look at, and a crystal-clear recent example with The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act.


Passed under Bush, not really relevant to the discussion. We don't really have an example of what happens when a Republican potus with a Republican House and Senate wants gun control. We do have an example of that scenario and socialized medicine though.

Horseshit. You kids keep insisting a republican congress will cave to a republican president and it didn't fucking happen when we had a republican president and republican congress.


A republican congress caved to a republican president on Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind, did it not? I can't point to where they caved to Bush on gun control because Bush never pushed for it. Unlike say, a President McCain would have.
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You are right........on this page it was Romney being discussed.

Other threads for a long time have had members saying Bush was for the AWB.  This has been said numerous times.
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Please link to the posts saying that Bush (not Romney or McCain) was a gun grabber who pushed anti-2A legislation.


You are right........on this page it was Romney being discussed.

Other threads for a long time have had members saying Bush was for the AWB.  This has been said numerous times.


I think you mean it had members quoting Bush saying he was for an AWB, which he did in fact say.

All that shows is people not accepting that if a politician moves his lips he's probably lying. Nothing in Bush' actions point to anti-2A, unlike McCain or Romney.
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I am sorry, I don't believe you.

Romney and McCain would have been so much better than Obongo that even though they are far from perfect it isn't even close.

The flavor of your posts appear otherwise to me.

Maybe I am wrong but.............oh well, maybe I am wrong.
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Lol

I've never voted for a libertarian for anything, I voted for Bush twice, and I even voted for Romney although admittedly that was knowing he'd lose my state and just trying to up his numbers as a way to communicate that there are non-liberal people in WA to our local folks. I admit I didn't vote for anyone for potus when McCain was on the ballot, I lived with that fucker all my life in AZ and I'll never vote for him for anything.

But I guess refusing to suck the dick of anyone who has an R by their name (no matter how much of a gun grabbing socialist they are) just makes me an eeeevvvvvvviiiiiilllllllll liberaltarian amirite? Most important election ever!


I am sorry, I don't believe you.

Romney and McCain would have been so much better than Obongo that even though they are far from perfect it isn't even close.

The flavor of your posts appear otherwise to me.

Maybe I am wrong but.............oh well, maybe I am wrong.


Cognitive dissonance is a bitch innit? Hard to maintain that worldview of "Everyone who disagrees with me must just be a liberal" in the face of contradictory evidence.
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