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Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:37:56 AM EDT
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Yeah, that was uncalled for.

I would love to see NA tribes treated like the sovereign nations they insist they are. But that's a subject for another thread.
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Tulalip Tribe Chairman Herman Williams on Marysville, Wash., shootings: 'I am deeply saddened by the terrible tragedy in our local school district. ...Our community is reeling from this experience, so we ask that the media and the public honor the families and our children in this time of grief. Sadly, we are now experiencing what has become a national trend, which we, as a society, must address' - statement





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Yeah, that was uncalled for.

I would love to see NA tribes treated like the sovereign nations they insist they are. But that's a subject for another thread.


I'd be fine with that, too, for the record.

That being said, I wonder if it had been a White boy who had done this, would the poster I responded to advocate an attempt at wiping out the entire town had the mayor made a statement like that, or is this "different" because it's Indians.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:45:20 AM EDT
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

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You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:45:53 AM EDT
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Yeah, that was uncalled for.

I would love to see NA tribes treated like the sovereign nations they insist they are. But that's a subject for another thread.

Yeah, the comment about blankets is the type of statement an asshole would make. I hope it was just a very bad joke.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:51:29 AM EDT
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You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

Where exactly is the loss of freedom?
Why do you require children to be completely exposed to anyone who wants to harm the most vulnerable part of our society?


You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?
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Tulalip Tribe Chairman Herman Williams on Marysville, Wash., shootings: 'I am deeply saddened by the terrible tragedy in our local school district. ...Our community is reeling from this experience, so we ask that the media and the public honor the families and our children in this time of grief. Sadly, we are now experiencing what has become a national trend, which we, as a society, must address' - statement





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God damn, dude. What a fucked up thing to say.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 11:54:08 AM EDT
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This, just as support was climbing in favor of an anti-internet loophole bill.  
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I am late to the party so this may/may not have been mentioned. From the local paper,

Friends and family said two of the shooting victims are Nate Hatch and Andrew Fryberg, Jaylen's cousins. All three freshmen grew up together and went to the homecoming dance as a group earlier this month after Jaylen was voted freshman homecoming king.

“They were like three brothers,” said Nate's grandfather, Don Hatch, a former Marysville School Board and Tulalip Tribal Board member. “They were inseparable. They did everything together. It doesn't seem real.”
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:01:03 PM EDT
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

Where exactly is the loss of freedom?
Why do you require children to be completely exposed to anyone who wants to harm the most vulnerable part of our society?


You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?


Teach kids how to deal with life.

The people are the problem. Even if somehow the guns are gone you will still have these people who think it's ok to kill because they were rejected.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:08:52 PM EDT
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Someone named "Disintregr8or" ruins a thread... what a coincidence.
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I left Marysville 13 years ago. It's grown so much in that amount of time I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it at all. I have lots of friends still in the area and they say the town has gone to shit.
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Marysville kind of sucks these days.  Between the police officer getting shot a couple weeks ago and the incident today at MPHS makes me glad my kids are all grown up and sad that my Granddaughter is in elementary school in this district.  I live less then a half mile from the school and over the last several years, this neighborhood has gone to complete shit.  My son-in law had his car stolen over the Summer as did two other folks I know that live in the same general area, last year literally several hundred tires were slashed within a two mile radius from my house and the police just recently closed down a drug house a few streets over.



I left Marysville 13 years ago. It's grown so much in that amount of time I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it at all. I have lots of friends still in the area and they say the town has gone to shit.


Two of my nieces were at MPHS around that time.

A friend of mine from school posted this on his Facebook page: "I would like to inform everyone that my 16 year old son <kidsname> is home safely. He was sitting near the shooter when this incident occurred , and watched it happen. Fortunately his instincts served him well, and he helped several other students to safety today."  

I looked at his fb wall and saw this from Oct 15th: "Police were just involved in a gun battle behind my house. They were in a blaze of gunfire. It was loud. And the officers car is shot up. The officers are all fine, not so sure about the suspect."

I know its pretty random, and the second case was a spree that started 30 miles away, but I'd be going all if I was him now.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:22:29 PM EDT
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Teach kids how to deal with life.

The people are the problem. Even if somehow the guns are gone you will still have these people who think it's ok to kill because they were rejected.
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

Where exactly is the loss of freedom?
Why do you require children to be completely exposed to anyone who wants to harm the most vulnerable part of our society?


You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?


Teach kids how to deal with life.

The people are the problem. Even if somehow the guns are gone you will still have these people who think it's ok to kill because they were rejected.


I dont disagree at all.  Accountability and responsibility are key lessons to be taught, but how do you reach every person and make sure those things are being taught?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 12:27:05 PM EDT
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I dont disagree at all.  Accountability and responsibility are key lessons to be taught, but how do you reach every person and make sure those things are being taught?
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

Where exactly is the loss of freedom?
Why do you require children to be completely exposed to anyone who wants to harm the most vulnerable part of our society?


You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?


Teach kids how to deal with life.

The people are the problem. Even if somehow the guns are gone you will still have these people who think it's ok to kill because they were rejected.


I dont disagree at all.  Accountability and responsibility are key lessons to be taught, but how do you reach every person and make sure those things are being taught?


You can't. It's up to the parents. Which is why it will continue to get worse as these kids grow up and attempt to be parents themselves.
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To recap, of the four patients receiving care at hospitals after the
high school shooting in Marysville, Wash., three are still in critical
condition and one is in serious condition, according to this morning's
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You can't. It's up to the parents. Which is why it will continue to get worse as these kids grow up and attempt to be parents themselves.
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You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?


Teach kids how to deal with life.

The people are the problem. Even if somehow the guns are gone you will still have these people who think it's ok to kill because they were rejected.


I dont disagree at all.  Accountability and responsibility are key lessons to be taught, but how do you reach every person and make sure those things are being taught?


You can't. It's up to the parents. Which is why it will continue to get worse as these kids grow up and attempt to be parents themselves.


Well thats the whole point of a fail safe.  You have securities in place such as check points and armed resource officers in schools JIC.
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:03:25 PM EDT
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Well thats the whole point of a fail safe.  You have securities in place such as check points and armed resource officers in schools JIC.
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Neither of which would have had any impact in preventing this incident.

So what is the next level of security?

And when it doesn't prove 100% effective, then what?

How far down this road are you willing to go?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:12:48 PM EDT
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I wish I could say what I want to.



But here is what I posted in the home team.







I dealt with the fallout of this all last night at work.



1)there is nothing racial/Muslim related

2)this is 100% about a family issue and "If I cant have her, no one will"

3)no regulation/law would have kept shooter from doing this. Weapon was stolen and he was under age to even be in possession of said fire arm. So he broke 2 laws before committing the major violent felony crimes.





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Neither of which would have had any impact in preventing this incident.

So what is the next level of security?

And when it doesn't prove 100% effective, then what?

How far down this road are you willing to go?
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Well thats the whole point of a fail safe.  You have securities in place such as check points and armed resource officers in schools JIC.


Neither of which would have had any impact in preventing this incident.

So what is the next level of security?

And when it doesn't prove 100% effective, then what?

How far down this road are you willing to go?


Why wouldnt of it had an impact?  The kid was supposedly suspended.  How did he get into the school when he wasnt supposed to be there?
Link Posted: 10/25/2014 1:45:30 PM EDT
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Why wouldnt of it had an impact?  The kid was supposedly suspended.  How did he get into the school when he wasnt supposed to be there?
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Well thats the whole point of a fail safe.  You have securities in place such as check points and armed resource officers in schools JIC.


Neither of which would have had any impact in preventing this incident.

So what is the next level of security?

And when it doesn't prove 100% effective, then what?

How far down this road are you willing to go?


Why wouldnt of it had an impact?  The kid was supposedly suspended.  How did he get into the school when he wasnt supposed to be there?


As I understand it, he was suspended from the football team, not from attending school. Reports indicate that was sitting at a table in the caferia when he stood up and began shooting the kids sharing the table with him.
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Why wouldnt of it had an impact?  The kid was supposedly suspended.  How did he get into the school when he wasnt supposed to be there?
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Well thats the whole point of a fail safe.  You have securities in place such as check points and armed resource officers in schools JIC.


Neither of which would have had any impact in preventing this incident.

So what is the next level of security?

And when it doesn't prove 100% effective, then what?

How far down this road are you willing to go?


Why wouldnt of it had an impact?  The kid was supposedly suspended.  How did he get into the school when he wasnt supposed to be there?


Think he had just finished serving the suspension.
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Two of my nieces were at MPHS around that time.

A friend of mine from school posted this on his Facebook page: "I would like to inform everyone that my 16 year old son <kidsname> is home safely. He was sitting near the shooter when this incident occurred , and watched it happen. Fortunately his instincts served him well, and he helped several other students to safety today."  

I looked at his fb wall and saw this from Oct 15th: "Police were just involved in a gun battle behind my house. They were in a blaze of gunfire. It was loud. And the officers car is shot up. The officers are all fine, not so sure about the suspect."

I know its pretty random, and the second case was a spree that started 30 miles away, but I'd be going all if I was him now.
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I left Marysville 13 years ago. It's grown so much in that amount of time I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it at all. I have lots of friends still in the area and they say the town has gone to shit.


Two of my nieces were at MPHS around that time.

A friend of mine from school posted this on his Facebook page: "I would like to inform everyone that my 16 year old son <kidsname> is home safely. He was sitting near the shooter when this incident occurred , and watched it happen. Fortunately his instincts served him well, and he helped several other students to safety today."  

I looked at his fb wall and saw this from Oct 15th: "Police were just involved in a gun battle behind my house. They were in a blaze of gunfire. It was loud. And the officers car is shot up. The officers are all fine, not so sure about the suspect."

I know its pretty random, and the second case was a spree that started 30 miles away, but I'd be going all if I was him now.


I graduated in '87 and have multiple friends that live in the area still and have kids @ MP. One's daughter was a witness too.

That shooter guy graduated in '89, but I don't recall him. He was trying for suicide by cop IMO.
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Movie theaters have improved security since then.  They are not prisons but they are vastly ahead of nothing.  Nor do I feel a loss freedom in a secure environment.  Office buildings, warehouses, concert venues, etc typically have controlled access and armed officers present.

Where exactly is the loss of freedom?
Why do you require children to be completely exposed to anyone who wants to harm the most vulnerable part of our society?


You must go to really different movie theaters than I do. I have not noticed any changes at theaters since that incident.

Sounds like you want your kids attending school in an impenetrable safety cage. Sounds just like a prison to me.

Although every incident like this is tragic, I don't think it is anywhere near a common enough event to justify the expense and impact of fortifying schools to the level that would be required to actually prevent them. I don't buy into "If it saves just one child" liberal mantra.


Besides fortifying schools and having armed guards, what do you believe will stop these events?


I have an idea:  stop fucking with people.  Don't tolerate bullying or fighting.  Adults are just as guilty as kids and more often you are seeing situations where the wrong guy person gets messed with and doesn't feel like there is any option to respond other than scorching the earth and making anyone pay for the pain they feel.

Some will scoff at this and think I'm writing about special snowflakes.  It's not that at all.  We are just seeing more people being jerks and others getting sick of it.  Add to that the lack of ability to talk or communicate face to face and you get stuff like this happening.
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I kind of blame the Internet, and children using it to broadcast their inner monologue to the world.



No kid should have a Twitter or Facebook account, period.  They should be talking to their families, not a computer.




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I kind of blame the Internet, and children using it to broadcast their inner monologue to the world.

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I totally agree!

And not driving till the age of 18.   Kids are fucking stupid these days.    

Not saying were weren't stupid in the 80s and prior to that but as the generations go on and on kids get more and more stupid.
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I agree, the only problem is many parents don't parent like they should.
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To recap, of the four patients receiving care at hospitals after the high school shooting in Marysville, Wash., three are still in critical condition and one is in serious condition, according to this morning's updates from hospital officials





How old is that info?
It's not accurate as of 5 pm Friday.
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The gun may have been "purchased" legally but it wasn't legal for a minor to take that gun from the gun owners home and onto school property. Of course the MSM leaves out the details like that. The sheeple make the leap, at the urging of the media and politicians, that we need more laws to somehow prevent this when these types of murderers almost always violated numerous gun laws prior to pulling the trigger on their first victim.







Said it before and I will say it again. If it is not the gun you carry for ccw and you have kids, lock it the eff up. How hard is this to understand?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj4fWdIpvCw

 
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15 year old defends self with gun

12 year old defends self with gun

11 year old defends self with gun

Another 15 year old defends self with gun

11 year old girl defends self with gun



So if it was up to you and other such short sighted persons these children would of been killed if your beliefs were put in place I bet the girls in the stories would of been raped than killed.

I guess their lives do not matter to people like you who have no clue what you are talking about. Recant your statement and apologize for the ignorance of it.

 


Do you think those instances are going to lead to a loss of 2A rights, or what happened the other day?
So give up 2nd amendment rights in order to keep 2nd amendment rights? Well I am not going to give in because of other individuals ignorance of reality. The children I referenced had a right to defend themselves as they did you want to strip them and others of that right so they can die at a higher rate that these school shootings. If I did that I would be a stooge and an enemy of freedom and liberty. And that is what we are talking about. We need to start drawing lines and calling out those who refuse to stand for liberty. You have a choice either you can stand with myself and others who believe in liberty or you can stand against us. Your choice?

 
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So I just found out that one of the young ladies at Providence has been taken off of life support and has passed.



If it's true that really sucks.





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Sad for everyone involved.

Such a preventable tragedy.

I have a few friends that have kids in MPHS.

Thankfully everyone is ok.



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Hospital on 2 Marysville, Wash., high school shooting patients:
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Hospital says 2 girls injured in Marysville, Wash., shooting remain
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Hospital says 2 girls injured in Marysville, Wash., shooting remain in critical condition, 'are receiving ongoing, continual monitoring and care' - statement





I learned it from her facebook page.  If it's not true then there are some sick people on her friends list.



 
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The girl at Providence died Friday evening.

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yes, one girl died, 2 other girls are still in the hospital along with 2 boys (the killers cousins)



 
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 4:28:22 PM EDT
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News is reporting that both girls are still in critical condition, sorry for the misinformation.
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The hero of the story, Megan Silverberger (edit: sorry, dupe of prior post by mcantu).


Apparently, the asshole did not just end it by killing himself.
Full details have not been released, but she is the teacher that attempted to stop him, and he shot himself when she grabbed his arm.

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witnesses told KIRO-TV, Silberberger walked over and grabbed his arm.In a two-second struggle, Fryberg is said to have pointed the gun at her before shooting himself dead.

The shocking account suggests Silberger, a first year social services teacher and part-time soccer player, may have prevented a massacre at the Washington school.
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Link Posted: 10/26/2014 5:46:05 PM EDT
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yes, one girl died, 2 other girls are still in the hospital along with 2 boys (the killers cousins)
 
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The girl at Providence died Friday evening.


yes, one girl died, 2 other girls are still in the hospital along with 2 boys (the killers cousins)
 


Not the first one that was reported dead from the scene, another one.
3 dead total that I am aware of.
Link Posted: 10/26/2014 5:56:59 PM EDT
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3 dead total that I am aware of.
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yes, one girl died, 2 other girls are still in the hospital along with 2 boys (the killers cousins)

 




Not the first one that was reported dead from the scene, another one.

3 dead total that I am aware of.


nope



 
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yes, one girl died, 2 other girls are still in the hospital along with 2 boys (the killers cousins)
 


Not the first one that was reported dead from the scene, another one.
3 dead total that I am aware of.

nope
 


Now I understand my confusion - mixing news reports with first hand info.
I got it now.
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 12:51:43 AM EDT
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2nd victim has died

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Shooting victim Gia Soriano has died  #Marysville

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Patient Shaylee Chuckulanaskit remains in critical condition. #Marysville

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Brave Woman there .
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witnesses told KIRO-TV, Silberberger walked over and grabbed his arm.In a two-second struggle, Fryberg is said to have pointed the gun at her before shooting himself dead.



The shocking account suggests Silberger, a first year social services teacher and part-time soccer player, may have prevented a massacre at the Washington school.






Brave Woman there .


Yeah.
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Am I in before they bulldoze the school?
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No bulldozer required. This would appear to be an ACTUAL school shooting.
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Estonia had its first school shooting ever today. The teacher died and student arrested,nothing of the sort has happened before.

http://www.postimees.ee/2968973/viljandis-lasi-opilane-koolis-opetaja-maha
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Marysville, Wash., shooting victim Nate Hatch upgraded to
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Police: Gun used in Marysville, Wash., high school shooting was purchased legally, owned by family member

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Police say that Marysville, Wash., gunman arranged to meet with friends in cafeteria before shooting

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More: Police say Marysville, Wash., shooter texted 5 victims to meet in cafeteria before shooting - @SeattleTimes

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witnesses told KIRO-TV, Silberberger walked over and grabbed his arm.In a two-second struggle, Fryberg is said to have pointed the gun at her before shooting himself dead.



The shocking account suggests Silberger, a first year social services teacher and part-time soccer player, may have prevented a massacre at the Washington school.




The national news (radio) keeps calling it a confirmed suicide. This doesn't sound like suicide to me.

Brave Woman there .


Yeah.

The national news (radio) keeps calling it a confirmed suicide. This doesn't sound like a suicide to me.

ETA: site is acting wonky...
Link Posted: 10/27/2014 9:18:46 PM EDT
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http://wa-snohomishcounty.civicplus.com/Archive.aspx?ADID=4024
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Detectives have also confirmed that the first year teacher attributed with confronting the shooter did not, in fact, have physical contact with the shooter during the incident.


Interesting. I wonder if the media will change their stories.
Link Posted: 10/31/2014 9:32:17 PM EDT
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http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/marysville-shooting/2014/10/31/shaylee-chuckulnaskit-marysville-pilchuck-shooting-victim/18277719/



The other girl passed today.




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