To be fair, Murica has a slightly larger population, and most "gun violence" is committed by a certain segment of the population who haven't recovered from slavery.

Possession of centrefire ammunition without the lawful authority of being on and acting in execution of your duty would be the offence.

Yes GD you need a licence to purchase and possess ammunition here as well as the firearms. The Police Officer in question would not be able to claim lawful authority for possession of ammunition on the basis of him being a Police Officer if he was placing it covertly in his colleagues lockers.

why don't they respect his 2nd Amendment rights?

FFS

You get most honour guards at momuments typically all dont carry ammo. I believe the US is the same in this regard as well at places like Arlington.

That's as stupid as the troops not being allowed to carry a gun while on base.

It will be 3" by the time you finish stabbing...

 

When Uncle Sam gets REAL fucking desperate and digs my name out of an old database, since the last time I wore a uniform was as a cadet in 1993.  Of course, some of that 20+ in the safe is my brother's collection, which I'm holding because he's an active duty Ranger, Airborne, Air Assault qualified infantry officer (he was an RI with Free and completed the Best Ranger Competition while assigned with the RTB), and he wasn't able to keep his personal weapons while stationed in Germany and is currently in a short-term school assignment and doesn't know if he'll be able to keep any of them the next place he's stationed.  



See that little pistol icon?  It means I teach classes.  I'm also involved with a group that has done major donation programs to support the troops every year for the past few years, we sent a lot of Kindles preloaded with books (including blanket permission to use everything published by a major science fiction publisher) to base hospitals for the use of wounded warriors.  We'd probably be sending more but we started hitting too much bureaucracy, they wanted us to incorporate as a 501c(3) before letting us donate the devices.  Back when the GWOT kicked off, I was still a competition shooter and active in the rifle competition forums, and the head of the Army Marksmanship Unit, LTC Liwanag, made a comment about his guys being run into the ground trying to support the designated marksman training program.  I reminded him that the NRA and CMP were FORMED for the purpose of improving the marksmanship skills of the armed forces, and that they had a BUNCH of VERY well-trained competition shooters around the country who would gladly donate their time to assist.  About two months later, the Army started soliciting competition shooters with certain skill levels (either classified as Master or High Master or Distinguished Marksman, possibly including those who had earned Leg points but hadn't yet legged out) as auxiliary instructors for the DM program.  My classification wasn't high enough so I didn't get to assist, beyond the original idea.



 

 

What a way to think.

Really?  You're going to tell me there isn't an instant change of tone when a cop on a fishing expedition pulls over an off-duty/retired cop?  (Assuming the motorist isn't a complete asshole or fucking the officer's wife)

Plenty of retired cops here bought pistols on their badge and never bothered applying for a permit.  Let's not forget illegal fireworks confiscations.  Absolutely zero chance those are being shot off at the officer's house, right?

Its not that simple and don't try and pretend it is. You need to be a member of a club and sign in a reasonable amount of times before they will even issue a license, that requires an investigator named a 'liason officer' will come out and inspect your home and storage requirements before you can even think of seeing the license.



The license is limited, it specifically lays out each and every caliber and type of firearm you can buy, all of which require 'good reason' which is an arbitrary term and meeting said requirement is determined by the opinion of said liaison officer.



And woe betide anyone who wants a decent amount of ammo. Its rare to see anything above 3000rds at once that you can legally hold. Plus they say you have to store it seperately from your guns and also be in a cabinet/safe.



And all of the above is for a semi auto rifle in .22LR or smaller only (Except .17HMR which they explicity said isn't OK). Or a rifle of decent caliber in single shot only.



If you want something historic such a semi auto section 7 pistol then the police define what type of locks you need to have on your doors, the locks on your windows and you must have an audible alarm.



If you want actual real guns with gas systems then they lay out that you must have an actual armory with specific thicknesses of walls etc.



Not only is it red tape, its ridiculous.
 

You are talking out of your arse.  As usual.

All of the above is quoted from the firearms act published online.
Point out where I am wrong.
P.S. I hold an active UK RFD so I do have experience here
 

I don't give a shit if you hold an RFD.

You are talking out of your arse elucidate.  And you know damned well you are.  You upped sticks and have been kissing US arse since you crawled your way through their immigration, and have spent every waking moment slagging off your home country at every opportunity.

Just quit it with the hyperbolic nonsense.  

I can't be arsed hauling your stupidity over the coals YET AGAIN.  

Again you're assuming that real life police officers are like the ones you've seen on TV. Ignoring the fact that the scenarios you used almost never take place, the truth is, that for most of us anything other than minor traffic violations gets treated the same regardless of who they are. I arrested a retired LEO for DUI for example.

As far as the gun permit thing I don't know as I live in a free state.

Its ALL true. I went through the exact steps laid above when I had a license. I also am in a position even today to know more than you on the matter as I hold an active manufacturers license. I also hold a DUNS and a CAGE code and supply your military. I might 'just' be speaking the truth.



The US is better when it comes to gun laws and the original post I replied about was incorrect as they made out it was a matter of triviality to buy and keep guns in the UK.



Because I grew up on a council estate should I be forever indebted to the hovel I lived in as a youth or should I leave that behind as I move up in the world. Comparing my job and house in Henley to that of my job and council house in Gateshead wouldn't be met with such vitriol by you, yet its the same comparison. I went from one place with political socialist leadership and poor economic outlook to somewhere with a constitutionalist republic political leadership and excellent economic outlook for the workforce.



Just because you've only experienced one of those doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.



When even the shooting participants in the country defend the controls laid upon them, it seems like a shooting Stockholm syndrome has set in.



 

No...you are talking out of your arse, and as I said before I don't give a damn about your RFD, DUNS or CAGE.  If anything you should know better.

Nobody is defending anything.  People are speaking from experience and you are talking out of your backside and using half truths and hyperbole.

You've had a chip on your shoulder for a while now, and I'm not sure why, nor do I care.  Just stick to the facts and we will be good.

There is enough crap on here without someone who should know better adding to it.  

Probably would help if you dispute what he said instead of bitching.

Arrested....for bullets?  

WTF is wrong with the British?  Let's arrest a guy over bullets and destroy his life over it. Yeah, that sounds sane.

Switzerland has a higher per capita rate of gun ownership than the UK and less homicides involving firearms than the UK.

We have many different cultures here in the USA and many other factors come into play regarding our criminal stats.

We've been through this with him many times.  I really cannot be arsed doing it again.

It bears no relevance to the subject of the thread and just serves to pander to the whopping chip on his shoulder.

Ah gotcha. i dont know the laws there so I don't know whos right or wrong.

No worries.  He posts some really interesting stuff at times, like the "thingummy that's not a bomb" thread.  But the regular dogpiling on UK shooting activities gets tiresome.   It's a shame he does it as he probably has a lot more to offer and is selling himself short.

Sure we have some idiosyncratic laws in the UK.  Hell, we need a "licence" to watch TV! FFS, and have experienced more than our fair share of ridiculous and politically motivated impositions which has left many of UK shooters with a bitter taste in their mouths.  Nobody knows that better than them.  But like with any legal system you can work within the law and Uk shooters make the best of the situation we have win those laws. It's more a test of the resilience of UK shooters to pursue their shooting despite the restrictions.

We certainly aren't the only country with licensing and restrictions of firearms. The US is fairly unique in terms of the position you guys are in with firearms law in the developed world.  The UK just gets a lot of attention in the US because of our history together as nations and we share a common language, making it easier for lazy reporting to cut and past soundbites and media spin to fit the narrative.

In terms of what happened with the Royal Protection officer, I suspect Loach and Icarus have probably covered it.  They certainly have more experience in that field than I do, but I do think that there is probably more to the story than we are are seeing in the media.