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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation.....
And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents, Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ?
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in all of human history this idea has never been discussed, ground breaking
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I'm reminded of the apocryphal De Tocqueville quote about democracy lasting until the public realizes it can vote for the .gov to take money from others and give it to them (paraphrasing obviously).
That being said, I think you're giving the voting public too much credit. People don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on who they like more. Sure, maybe you don't but there aren't enough "you"s to make a difference. An election is just a test of who can sweet talk low information voters the best. The Hildabeast is so strikingly hateful that I honestly think she'd be a lot easier to beat than someone younger and more attractive. |
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]."
Often attributed to Margret Thatcher |
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I believe that's why wiser men than I designed a constitutional republic, as opposed to a no-holds-barred democracy.
But, that seems to have a limited lifespan. |
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? View Quote I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. |
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? View Quote It's part of a plan for a crash, the discard of the Constitution and the formal adapting of a fascist state. |
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend]." Often attributed to Margret Thatcher View Quote Not really. Fiat for the win... Just print more. The central government can give every American a billion dollars if they want. What you eventually run out of, is value. |
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It's part of a plan for a crash, the discard of the Constitution and the formal adapting of a International fascist state Free Trade Zone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? It's part of a plan for a crash, the discard of the Constitution and the formal adapting of a International fascist state Free Trade Zone. FIFY |
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I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? |
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Bad policy requires enforcement. Lay the blame no further than your local law enforcement. They enable tyranny. Hold them accountable. "I was just following orders" didn't cut it in the past, and doesn't cut it now.
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I'm reminded of the apocryphal De Tocqueville quote about democracy lasting until the public realizes it can vote for the .gov to take money from others and give it to them (paraphrasing obviously). That being said, I think you're giving the voting public too much credit. People don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on who they like more. Sure, maybe you don't but there aren't enough "you"s to make a difference. An election is just a test of who can sweet talk low information voters the best. The Hildabeast is so strikingly hateful that I honestly think she'd be a lot easier to beat than someone younger and more attractive. View Quote I disagree, anyone on the dole will vote for whoever promises them the most. That includes teachers and other civil service types, not just welfare types. They don't want a Republican because they believe that they might not get as much free stuff or as generous a raise. |
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Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. |
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The FSA is strong and well in Alaska and has a Republican governor, same with Michigan and other states. The rest of the US could turn out the same way.
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? View Quote "--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. D.o.I. Saint Peter |
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They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. |
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They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. Then move. Turn your back on them and get out. Go hide out in Central or South America. Go be a hippie in the desert. |
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Hillary isn't running for President. She's running top cover for all the other scumbags that are going to pop up at the last second.
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Then move. Turn your back on them and get out. Go hide out in Central or South America. Go be a hippie in the desert. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. Then move. Turn your back on them and get out. Go hide out in Central or South America. Go be a hippie in the desert. Because that is the logical conclusion. |
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Quoted: I disagree, anyone on the dole will vote for whoever promises them the most. That includes teachers and other civil service types, not just welfare types. They don't want a Republican because they believe that they might not get as much free stuff or as generous a raise. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm reminded of the apocryphal De Tocqueville quote about democracy lasting until the public realizes it can vote for the .gov to take money from others and give it to them (paraphrasing obviously). That being said, I think you're giving the voting public too much credit. People don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on who they like more. Sure, maybe you don't but there aren't enough "you"s to make a difference. An election is just a test of who can sweet talk low information voters the best. The Hildabeast is so strikingly hateful that I honestly think she'd be a lot easier to beat than someone younger and more attractive. I disagree, anyone on the dole will vote for whoever promises them the most. That includes teachers and other civil service types, not just welfare types. They don't want a Republican because they believe that they might not get as much free stuff or as generous a raise. I will point you to the Florida governor race and public employees right now for affirmation.
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"We've given you a Republic-if you can keep it"
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Yes. That's the contract. Even if it means taking a loss on our investment, it's still the contract we live by.
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They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. Why should I be obligated to carry that burden ? I didn't promise them anything some long dead politician did. Their money has long been spent, and robbing me to cover it is no different than stealing a lawn mower from your neighbor because a different neighbor took yours. |
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Generally speaking those too lazy to work are also too lazy to vote.
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Hillary isn't running for President. She's running top cover for all the other scumbags that are going to pop up at the last second. Highly possible, I've been saying this for months. She is too polarizing and she knows it. The #1 job of the Clintons right now is to stay relevant in the game and thereby make Chelsa into the next big family graft machine. |
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I'm reminded of the apocryphal De Tocqueville quote about democracy lasting until the public realizes it can vote for the .gov to take money from others and give it to them (paraphrasing obviously). That being said, I think you're giving the voting public too much credit. People don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on who they like more. Sure, maybe you don't but there aren't enough "you"s to make a difference. An election is just a test of who can sweet talk low information voters the best. The Hildabeast is so strikingly hateful that I honestly think she'd be a lot easier to beat than someone younger and more attractive. I disagree, anyone on the dole will vote for whoever promises them the most. That includes teachers and other civil service types, not just welfare types. They don't want a Republican because they believe that they might not get as much free stuff or as generous a raise. I will point you to the Florida governor race and public employees right now for affirmation. Exactly |
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Generally speaking those too lazy to work are also too lazy to vote. View Quote That has been our salvation til recently. Now they make it so easy even the lazy and the stupid can vote. I've seen them pick up the people in assisted living in tour busses and give them a deli sandwich and a cream soda after voting. |
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They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. They aren't entitled to shit. They are not magically entitled to part of another mans paycheck just because they were stupid enough to let the government steal part of theirs. There is no such thing as entitlement to the fruits of another mans labor. Let? LET??? |
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Why should I be obligated to carry that burden ? I didn't promise them anything some long dead politician did. Their money has long been spent, and robbing me to cover it is no different than stealing a lawn mower from your neighbor because a different neighbor took yours. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? I don't think they are a majority really. There's just a lot of them (numbers growing) and it costs a fortune to support each of them. Also, figure the indirect costs associated with them from the clerical workers down to the paper clips and staples. Depends how you define FSA. All the Cletii and Laqueefas on welfare are in the minority, sure. But what about all the Baby Boomers and seniors who are "conservative" but destroy anyone who wants to change Social Security or Medicare-caid? They paid in to the program just like you and I. Though there is a damn good chance you and I won't bear the fruits of that labor, those that did before us are still entitled to them and I see it as our burden to carry. Remember, we gotta have wide shoulders. Be proud. Why should I be obligated to carry that burden ? I didn't promise them anything some long dead politician did. Their money has long been spent, and robbing me to cover it is no different than stealing a lawn mower from your neighbor because a different neighbor took yours. Exactly. I am 43 and have no expectation of receiving any meaningful SS checks in 25 years. I sure as hell owe no illegal immigrant/invader free shit in any form! |
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? View Quote It wont. The only difference between totalitarian regimes and a socialist democracy is a matter of time. |
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If the Free Shit Army out-numbers the producers of all wealth in a nation..... And the Socialist Party promises free everything to their franchised dependents,Than how will such a nation avoid the downward spiral of progressive confiscation, and rampant entitlement ? . . ASKED another way, Who can win over Hillary in a fair election ? View Quote It's simple really. They have also been told that there's like......27 people (all rich white folk) who own 187% of all the nation's wealth. Now, everyone accepts this as fact and they also all believe they are broke due to the administration telling them constantly that they are perpetual victims. You see........these 27 or so........the top like.........1/ 10th of a tenth of a percent of the top 1 perc........look, it doesn't really matter. All I know is that these rich fuckers that nobody can name, that all got their money from........well.......nobody can really explain that either, but the point is that they are so rich, if we were to get our hands on it and redistribute it, it's like a never fucking ending well of money and true Utopia will be achieved. All we have to do is hunt them down...... THAT is the kind of mentality we're dealing with. |
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All the pathetic baby boomers whining about how they paid into the Ponzi scheme so they'd best get theirs are missing a basic fact. Ponzis are illegal because they're a scam, a fraud, and always collapse eventually. Given A. How large the Baby Boom cohort is and B. How they selfishly chose to not reproduce then it is literally mathematically impossible for SS to continue. All they're really saying is "I want to get everything I can and leave nothing but a smoking ruin for my children, but fuck them cause I'll be dead anyway." Boomers always were a narcissistic, selfish generation and their petulant mewling about how they're "owed" this or that is an excellent example and proof that age has brought neither wisdom nor maturity.
The system has to crash eventually, math may be unfair and racist and chock-a-block with heterocage white privilege and all but it really doesn't lie. I only hope it collapses before my children are forced into a life of virtual indentured servitude to pay for the socialized medicine and FDR's Ponzi scheme the boomers are so enamored with. |
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I'm reminded of the apocryphal De Tocqueville quote about democracy lasting until the public realizes it can vote for the .gov to take money from others and give it to them (paraphrasing obviously). That being said, I think you're giving the voting public too much credit. People don't vote based on ideology, they vote based on who they like more. Sure, maybe you don't but there aren't enough "you"s to make a difference. An election is just a test of who can sweet talk low information voters the best. The Hildabeast is so strikingly hateful that I honestly think she'd be a lot easier to beat than someone younger and more attractive. View Quote Very true. |
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What a sad thread.. I has a sad face
The winning of hearts and minds goes both ways, if your enemy can demoralize you then they've all but won. Judging by the responses here they're strategy is working.
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Quoted: All the pathetic baby boomers whining about how they paid into the Ponzi scheme so they'd best get theirs are missing a basic fact. Ponzis are illegal because they're a scam, a fraud, and always collapse eventually. Given A. How large the Baby Boom cohort is and B. How they selfishly chose to not reproduce then it is literally mathematically impossible for SS to continue. All they're really saying is "I want to get everything I can and leave nothing but a smoking ruin for my children, but fuck them cause I'll be dead anyway." Boomers always were a narcissistic, selfish generation and their petulant mewling about how they're "owed" this or that is an excellent example and proof that age has brought neither wisdom nor maturity. The system has to crash eventually, math may be unfair and racist and chock-a-block with heterocage white privilege and all but it really doesn't lie. I only hope it collapses before my children are forced into a life of virtual indentured servitude to pay for the socialized medicine and FDR's Ponzi scheme the boomers are so enamored with. View Quote |
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