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The problem is that the post-industrial nations are shrinking, and the shitholes are growing exponentially. But you are right. Babys are expensive. I'd love to have 3 or 4, but I'll likely be tapped out economically at 2 if I want to give both a competitive shot at the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Developed world population is on a downward trend. At one time it was believe that the world population would hit 14 billion. The estimated number is now below 8 billion and dropping. Want to trim population growth? Economic growth is the solution. The problem is that the post-industrial nations are shrinking, and the shitholes are growing exponentially. But you are right. Babys are expensive. I'd love to have 3 or 4, but I'll likely be tapped out economically at 2 if I want to give both a competitive shot at the world. Want to slow their growth? Raise their standard of living. |
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Hmph, and here I thought it was climate change this whole time...
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The problem is that the post-industrial nations are shrinking, and the shitholes are growing exponentially. But you are right. Babys are expensive. I'd love to have 3 or 4, but I'll likely be tapped out economically at 2 if I want to give both a competitive shot at the world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Developed world population is on a downward trend. At one time it was believe that the world population would hit 14 billion. The estimated number is now below 8 billion and dropping. Want to trim population growth? Economic growth is the solution. The problem is that the post-industrial nations are shrinking, and the shitholes are growing exponentially. But you are right. Babys are expensive. I'd love to have 3 or 4, but I'll likely be tapped out economically at 2 if I want to give both a competitive shot at the world. Yea it is only certain nations or regions that have population explosions that are destabilizing and create demographic bubbles. Overall population growth is not a global problem in and of itself. |
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You could overlay a US county by county voting map and see a strong correlation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
You could overlay a US county by county voting map and see a strong correlation. and a violent crime map funny how that works huh I do believe we have a population density problem but that's peoples choosing and not in the west |
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I think we can all agree its over popluated with the wrong people, who just want free stuff, do not value western civilization, and science.
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There is always a heaping pile of misanthropy lying just under the surface of every single social liberal I've met.
They'll tell you they love everyone, but push further and you find they disdain humanity. |
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They picked him to control the message. It's not a medical problem, it's a communication problem. You all don't understand that you need to die for the good of others.
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They picked him to control the message. It's not a medical problem, it's a communication problem. You all don't understand that you need to die for the good of others. View Quote Jokes aside, there is much truth to this. There is a reason they picked a liberal political activist lawyer rather than someone with medical knowledge and experience. This isn't about solving a problem, it is about manipulating people. |
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When someone makes a statement of fact they can technically be correct and still be completely wrong. That’s because statements of fact are rarely made in isolation. Statements of fact virtually always come with a context and a set of often unspoken assumptions.
Overpopulation is a major, perhaps the major problem in the world right now. That is true… But so what? What’s the cause? What’s the solution? Is the “solution” something which can be morally implemented? Now, I’m sure there are plenty of people who would love to see some deadly disease depopulate Africa, India, Asia, Central and South America, and New York City. Plenty of people in those places would like to see America depopulated as well. There’s a certain amount of justified concern that the Left might try to engineer such a disaster. Ignoring the obvious moral problems with that, these people have not considered the results of such a plan. To begin with, it is a proven sociological fact that industrialization of a culture causes its population growth to stop, and then reverse. This is 100% true for every country which has industrialized. Oh, there’s a lag in the effect of perhaps a generation, but the effect is real. So, had the world fully industrialized a century ago, then we would have a stable world population of perhaps 2.5 billion right now. If anything the problem we would be facing would be population decline, not population growth. There are many reasons for this but perhaps the biggest one is pure economics. In an agricultural society, every child a family has is another laborer. Farm children will start doing basic chores at 5 or 6 if not earlier. By 10 or 11 they will be doing a full day’s work. That makes a child a good return on investment. In an industrial society the kid produces nothing until they turn 18 or 19. Then they get a job in a factory somewhere. It gets worse in an information based economy like we have. There a kid will likely produce little until they are 25 or 30 (if then) as they have to get through years of school and training before they are economically useful. And that’s why all those education classes and condom giveaways have so little impact. People in third world countries realize that children are economically beneficial. My solution to “overpopulation” would be a crash course to develop cheap energy (Fusion, safe fission) and to encourage economic growth. Perhaps we could industrialize most of the world in 50 years and survive as a species long enough for industrial age depopulation to stabilize things. The Left hates this idea and their plan would probably either amount to more of stuff that will have no effect, or simply exterminating large percentages of the world’s population. To understand why this is a really, really, bad idea (Besides the fact that the idea is morally repugnant to anyone with any sense of decency.) you have to think about the results of the Holocaust and of slavery in America. If something like that happened it would ultimately spell the end of our modern culture. The third world would hate us with a passion, and rightfully so. That kind of hatred tends to span generations so that people whose grandparents weren’t even born when the crime was committed have to pay for the sins of their ancestors. And when the West is finally done in, the third world will go right back to exponential growth. And for the TL/DR crowd… Fuck Obama and all of his Czars. |
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The left has a solution for that........ View Quote The thing that cracks me up about the left and their little utopia-who will do all the work? Do they think they can all sit around and get fed and paid big bucks to do nothing? Shit,kill off most of the libs and the rest of us would hardly notice-except for having more money in our pockets and less feel good gov bullshit shoved down our throats. |
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When someone makes a statement of fact they can technically be correct and still be completely wrong. That’s because statements of fact are rarely made in isolation. Statements of fact virtually always come with a context and a set of often unspoken assumptions. Overpopulation is a major, perhaps the major problem in the world right now. That is true… But so what? What’s the cause? What’s the solution? Is the “solution” something which can be morally implemented? Now, I’m sure there are plenty of people who would love to see some deadly disease depopulate Africa, India, Asia, Central and South America, and New York City. Plenty of people in those places would like to see America depopulated as well. There’s a certain amount of justified concern that the Left might try to engineer such a disaster. Ignoring the obvious moral problems with that, these people have not considered the results of such a plan. To begin with, it is a proven sociological fact that industrialization of a culture causes its population growth to stop, and then reverse. This is 100% true for every country which has industrialized. Oh, there’s a lag in the effect of perhaps a generation, but the effect is real. So, had the world fully industrialized a century ago, then we would have a stable world population of perhaps 2.5 billion right now. If anything the problem we would be facing would be population decline, not population growth. There are many reasons for this but perhaps the biggest one is pure economics. In an agricultural society, every child a family has is another laborer. Farm children will start doing basic chores at 5 or 6 if not earlier. By 10 or 11 they will be doing a full day’s work. That makes a child a good return on investment. In an industrial society the kid produces nothing until they turn 18 or 19. Then they get a job in a factory somewhere. It gets worse in an information based economy like we have. There a kid will likely produce little until they are 25 or 30 (if then) as they have to get through years of school and training before they are economically useful. And that’s why all those education classes and condom giveaways have so little impact. People in third world countries realize that children are economically beneficial. My solution to “overpopulation” would be a crash course to develop cheap energy (Fusion, safe fission) and to encourage economic growth. Perhaps we could industrialize most of the world in 50 years and survive as a species long enough for industrial age depopulation to stabilize things. The Left hates this idea and their plan would probably either amount to more of stuff that will have no effect, or simply exterminating large percentages of the world’s population. To understand why this is a really, really, bad idea (Besides the fact that the idea is morally repugnant to anyone with any sense of decency.) you have to think about the results of the Holocaust and of slavery in America. If something like that happened it would ultimately spell the end of our modern culture. The third world would hate us with a passion, and rightfully so. That kind of hatred tends to span generations so that people whose grandparents weren’t even born when the crime was committed have to pay for the sins of their ancestors. And when the West is finally done in, the third world will go right back to exponential growth. And for the TL/DR crowd… Fuck Obama and all of his Czars. View Quote I believe you just won a million Internets with this post, my good sir. |
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Why isn't that true? I think the World would be much better with about 1/3 of the right population culled. View Quote Then let it happen naturally. No aid to stricken countries that should be able to feed themselves, but never have been able to. No more welfare here, paying women to have babies to multiple fathers out of wedlock. Survival of the fittest, evolution. The left's solution will be one of force. They will choose who lives and dies, not the strong and smart who survive necessarily. Their solution always involves death camps or forced exterimination. |
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Shiva Ebola will cleanse and purify Mother Earth. The Great Obama has spoken. FIFY 10/22 / retro AR guy is quoting BhagavadVita up in hurr No, he's referring to the book Rainbow Six. |
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Quoted: I don't know where you were when I posted a thread indicating my own observation of this fact, but the bullshit here came out of the shadows pretty quick. That was the defining moment for me to realize that there are some genuinely dumb motherfuckers trolling here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He is correct which is a first with any member of this administration. I don't know where you were when I posted a thread indicating my own observation of this fact, but the bullshit here came out of the shadows pretty quick. That was the defining moment for me to realize that there are some genuinely dumb motherfuckers trolling here. |
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LOL, pay attention, urban black people, because your Chocolate Messiah is getting ready to toss your asses under the bus.
Ebola will hit hardest in urban centers, not just from shitting your liver out your anus, but from starvation as the truck drivers and train engineers who deliver the food say "fuck this" and refuse to carry the loads into those areas. Add in the rioting and general mayhem as the police, ambulance drivers, firemen, etc., say "NOPE" and drive home to the suburbs. Yup, Obama's getting ready to really fuck his largest constituency. |
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First and probably last time a Democrat is correct about anything.
Shakespeare had a partial solution. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Interesting… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRdpi0Ww2-8 Someone please embed I'm pretty sure we're… http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9QdY4gfR7iY/hqdefault.jpg Well lets get this party started. |
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I'll happily donate the bullet if he wants to be the first to step up and lead by example by putting one under his chin.
Just like the aborters, they don't value any life other than their own. Greed is their core value. |
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Well it's a good thing that I don't give a shit about humanity.
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Why isn't that true? I think the World would be much better with about 1/3 of the right population culled. View Quote 1/3 less is a smart goal for a population target. But far too many of the "Earth needs a smaller population" crowd are championing a population reduction of 90% or more and we don't know were this guy stands. But if he was part of Al Gore's crew, I'll bet he's with the 90% reduction crowd. Definitely NOT the sort of person you want leading the charge against a killer disease that has the possibility to be effect a 90% fatality rate. Because there's a conflict of interest in seeing his population reduction goal met versus stopping the disease as soon as possible versus letting the disease accomplish his depopulation goal before releasing the cure. |
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Real life is becoming indistinguishable from The Onion.
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Social and economic central planning does not work. If human population is a problem why not just let nature take it's course, quit fighting disease, hunger, and poverty in poor populations. That's not a viable solution because it doesn't provide what they're really after. The crisis, scary boogeyman, and noble causes, are just the sale pitch to get what they really want, more government and more money and power. All of their solutions involve MORE government. |
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I will post this link for posterity:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1671212___OFFICIAL_EBOLA_THREAD____US_.html&page=146 Here I was ridiculed for the post which is now fact. |
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I will post this link for posterity: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1671212___OFFICIAL_EBOLA_THREAD____US_.html&page=146 Here I was ridiculed for the post which is now fact. View Quote Yup. Don't you know you can only get ebola by licking an infected patient's eyeball. |
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2012 elections http://freedomslighthouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012electoralcountybycountymap111612web.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You could overlay a US county by county voting map and see a strong correlation. 2012 elections http://freedomslighthouse.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012electoralcountybycountymap111612web.jpg Thanks Ohio. |
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This was the crisis-of-the-moment back when I was in high school right before DDT and right after Viet Nam. Then we did global cooling, freon and the ozone layer, save the whales, save the dolphins ....
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The Earth is abundant.
Claiming that it isn't enough for it's people is heretical selfishness. |
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Why isn't that true? I think the World would be much better with about 1/3 of the right population culled. View Quote If you believe that then please be a leader. Of course, the problem with you and him and those like you is you always think those "other people" should be the ones to die. You never lead by example. Why is that? |
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/10/well-cwell-c-ci-had-forgotten-about.html
In a city where name recognition is synonymous with success, Ron Klain has made a virtue of being unknown. As Attorney General Janet Reno’s chief of staff, he is all but invisible to the public but recognized in Democratic circles as the man to have on your side in a political or legal fight. A rare mix of top-flight lawyer and savvy politician, Klain shepherded the nominations of Reno and Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg through the Senate and steered the omnibus crime bill through the turbulent legislative process. He was Janet renos chief of staff during Waco. |
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