Cops couldn't be fucked checking safes and fucking with people here but you would know that if your knowledge extended more than a few bits of shit you get off the internet from Fox News. If you've been a fucktard they might rock up and exercise their search rights and that's how all cops the world over are. Don't be a wanker and you get through life fine.

And what do you think a "warrant" is? God's fucking word or something?

Its a piece of paper that says the cops can enter your home and guess what? You didn't write it and neither did William the Twat. You have a hide to talk about castles when this is the reality in which you live. If the cops want to search your house in the US they will and they don't even have to knock because the King..... sorry the DA told them they don't have to.

UK gun laws blow dead faggot crank all of PG2.


Damn, 13 seconds.

I'll catch up with you next time. In this thread I was referring to Australian mandatory inspections, not anything in the UK. The US has mandatory inspections too for some things but not to my knowledge for firearms ownership.

In the Netherlands I was late for something and was running and they felt that was suspicious. In Italy I was walking in a residential area once and the other time was walking in a dark commercial area and police there thought that was suspicious. I don't drive when I travel in Europe. To be fair walking after dark has gotten me pulled over a number of times in the US as well.

I don't know how it works abroad but here a Judge signs a warrant not a DA.

While I know where you're coming from, this is misinformed.

The dude that got shot on the tube was misidentified by a police anti-terrorism operation as a potential suicide bomber, if I recall in the aftermath of the 7/7 attacks.

Several operational failures (like radios not working underground) led to this guy being wrongly killed. He wasn't killed because he didn't present his Oyster card.

I know.

SAS was there that day too.

You are acting like the cops come to my house everyday to check my safe. Ill repeat they have never come EVER. Remember Katrina? They were taking your guns willy nilly despite your firearms laws and people did jack shit as far as locking up the guys who gave those illegal unconstitutional orders. Weve had heaps of natural disasters and that's never ever happened here but it did in the US.

There is a law in the UK whereby the police must offer their hat to the public to take a piss in if they had no other place to urinate. Its still the law and guess what no-one cares because it aint a big issue and no-one asks the cops for a lend, that's my position on the safe thing.

2a meant jack shit in NO as it probably will again and trust me the same old people will still be holier than thou to us lesser mortals.

So you get the point I hope nonetheless.

Believe me I'm aware of the failings. But they bother me. And I will tell you they bother me. That's all that bothered me about what you said--that you won't condemn the law.

Europeans: "Why did Zimmerman harrass poor Trayvon Martin?! He must be racist!"
Me: "No... in America, if you are walking, you are suspicious."

Nobody likes the fact a policeman can enter your house to check your safe. What makes you think anybody would like that?

I don't like speed limits on highways either and a whole myriad of other things. How do you think a Policeman would go if he entered your house 3 times in a month to check your safe while ignoring the other 2000 gunowners in his area?

Would you like to be the career copper trying to answer that question in front of a judge? Didn't think so. The Police have other things more important to handle and if they had the resources to be able to do this for everyone,  you know what? Its a good thing because it means crime is down and they are obviously in need of shit to do. But that's not gonna happen and if it does who gives a shit? Probably just you since you get bothered so easily. If they want to search my house they can get a warrant anyway just like in the US.

Plenty of fucked laws in the US you can get bothered about and expend your energy on than this one a world away from you in distance and culture.

Exactly, and it has to be supported by probable cause.  If the warrant is found later in court to not have been valid than any evidence seized during the search would not be admissible in court. We have this lovely thing called due process here and right to be secure in our person and effects.  As a world super power I'd say they've worked out pretty well for us so far.

Say what you will about the US having messed up laws, the great thing about the USA is that the citizenry still has the ability to wage a protracted and effective war against a tyrannical government.

Yours, not so much.

Now you can go on about how we're fat and lazy, so that would never happen in the first place.

lol

I give up.

Have fun with your gun laws.

I realize that the USA isn't perfect, trust me, there are states that I would likely never live in due to political leanings. We lock up a lot of people for stupid stuff, but it looks like some of the states have realized this and there's a trend towards judicial reform in this area.

However I fail to understand how we could continue to call ourselves the 'land of the free...' if we were forced to allow anyone with a badge access to our homes...of course it would be based on 'good reasons', explained at the time of the visit.  
I've yet to hear to a warrant that was requested for 'bad reasons' so I sincerely believe if such a visit were conducted, it would have really 'good reasons' behind it.

Secrets courts with secret judges are bad enough, now to allow entry to my home up the the jurisprudence and judgment of said police officer.....I'll pass, thanks anyhow.