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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:19:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:23:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Predator. Stealth. MUCH faster. Variety of weapons to kill with. Perimeter monitoring capabilities would prevent a Terminator from sneaking up. No contest. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:24:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Human Schwarzenegger used his cleverness and guile to kill the Predator, machine Schwarzenegger isn't very clever. Predator's shoulder cannon would have to fuck up a T-800. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Predator = Killed by Human Schwarzenegger. Terminator = Cyborg Death Machine Schwarzenegger. Human Schwarzenegger used his cleverness and guile to kill the Predator, machine Schwarzenegger isn't very clever. Predator's shoulder cannon would have to fuck up a T-800. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both have nuclear capabilities, since the T-800 has a nuke reactor powering it. Since the Terminator is nuke powered, it will generate massive amounts of heat that it cannot hide. The only reason the Predator lost in the first movie was mud being used as heat camo, I believe that the Predator will win. The shoulder plasma cannon can cut through a Terminator, while the Terminator is reliant on any weapons he finds (which may or may not have the range needed to hit a Predator. The Terminator was also less flexible and only faster than a person while running in a straight line. Predator wins this fight. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does Arnold get a phased plasma rifle or does he only get an Uzi? Hey, just what ya see pal. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:32:58 PM EDT
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Predator = Killed by Human Schwarzenegger. Terminator = Cyborg Death Machine Schwarzenegger. Terminator = killed by a pregnant woman |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 9:36:45 PM EDT
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The Predators would might finally get an adversary worthy.
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:03:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:20:26 PM EDT
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Predator. Both are badass, but the Terminator is only impervious to 20th century weapons.
Predator has waaaaay better toys. In unarmed combat? Tossup. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:24:53 PM EDT
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Sarah Fucking Connor Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who wins in a no bullshit fight to the death? Assume they both have full battle dress. Location is Kauai for shits a giggles and maybe pretty scenery as we enjoy our bloodsport. Whatcha think? ETA: T-800 series terminator Sarah Fucking Connor 
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:25:16 PM EDT
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The terminator was only mostly impervious to modern day weapons... and not too great at dodging... Humans of the future had weapons capable of destroying them pretty readily. The Predator has weapons that could destroy it easily. It also has optical camo... don't know if that camo works for other wavelengths of light as well. The terminator doesn't adapt very well... If it wasn't already aware of the optical camo it wouldn't be capable of making the connection unless the predator turned it off in front of him... The terminator would wander around unaware of the predators presence and then have a hole in its chest and have its head and spine ripped out before it knew what was happening. I'm leaning this way. So far, this has been the most logical response I've read. If ol Predator is perched high atop a tree waiting for the kill while Terminator comes waltzin through, Predator leaps down with his space spear through the CPU for the kill. Initially, I was thinking terminator but now I'm leaning toward Predator for his athleticism and cunning. Terminator just bulls through things. IF, Terminator can defeat Predator's camo with his bionic eye, you've got a definite gamechanga. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:38:19 PM EDT
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My first thought was Terminator. But after a bit of thought, I voted Predator.
If you look at the overall skills and attributes, the Terminator's sole advantage is being hard to kill. The Predator brings to the match strategy, stealth, and tactical creativity. As long as the Predator has functional weapons and remains uninjured, he wins. And, the Terminator does not leave the battlefield either way, because as soon as the Predator is about to go down, he pulls out the the nuke to wipe both of them out. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:44:16 PM EDT
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Predator, for reasons listed above. AI can only get you so far...
Predators hunt and kill all sorts of things.. While terminators are only made to battle humans. Now if skynet focuses on killing predators, then we have something to watch, Hollywood needs to answer this for us in a series of movies. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:47:45 PM EDT
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Now if skynet focuses on killing predators, then we have something to watch, Hollywood needs to answer this for us in a series of movies. If Skynet were involved with the HKs against an army of Predators it might be a fairer fight. But you just know Predator has some nasty ground-to-air weapons somewhere. |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 10:49:33 PM EDT
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Hollywood needs to answer this for us in a series of movies. Yes, because they such a great job with Aliens vs Predator. 
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:28:03 PM EDT
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My money's on the predator. Superior agility, cunning and arguably weapons as well, although that depends on whether the terminator gets to use the phased plasma rifle, the ballistics of which are not really defined.
I'll wager the predator's melee weapons would do a lot of damage to a terminator. The terminator has neither melee weapons or much of any melee ability to speak of beyond clumsy punches and grabs. It may have greater strength, although I think that's debatable. I'd give the edge to predator for melee and ranged combat. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/19/2014 11:31:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Skynet were involved with the HKs against an army of Predators it might be a fairer fight. But you just know Predator has some nasty ground-to-air weapons somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now if skynet focuses on killing predators, then we have something to watch, Hollywood needs to answer this for us in a series of movies. If Skynet were involved with the HKs against an army of Predators it might be a fairer fight. But you just know Predator has some nasty ground-to-air weapons somewhere. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:18:28 AM EDT
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Does anyone know the wattage of the Predator's shoulder thing that goes up?
If it's less than 30 watts, I'm not sure it could incapacitate the Terminator. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:25:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2014 12:48:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Predator. Stealth. MUCH faster. Variety of weapons to kill with. Perimeter monitoring capabilities would prevent a Terminator from sneaking up. No contest.  |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:09:41 AM EDT
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Only way I see Terminator winning is if Predator doesn't realize he isn't human. Predator blasts Terminator w/plasma weapon, Terminator feigns death, Predator closes to collect trophy, Terminator grabs Predator and rams fist through head/chest w/other arm. Otherwise Predator continues to blast Terminator until he's down for the count or accidentally detonates Terminator's fuel cell.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:04:56 PM EDT
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A lot of the responses indicate the Predator knows the Terminator is coming, and the T800 is blind prey. As well, the terminator movies depict the machines going back in time and being defeated there while trying to blend in as human to fool the Connors.
If Predator shows up ready to kill a Terminator, why doesn't the Terminator go back in time with heavy guns, too, like the ones mounted on Skynet sentries. I think the capacity of each of their guns to kill would be similar, and I am guessing that Terminator could defeat the Predator camouflage. Seems like a prepared Terminator that doesn't have to focus on blending in, but instead just killing the Predator, would be a determined and successful opponent. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:06:40 PM EDT
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A terminator with a phased plasma rifle in the 800 watt range.... The Terminator is going to win this one.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:10:14 PM EDT
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Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff. That's a good point... so far we've only see the Predators' fudd guns. 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:10:54 PM EDT
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Alliens win,
the aliens always win 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:17:53 PM EDT
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Alliens win, the aliens always win http://38.media.tumblr.com/f99bc3759ab955c5c3b1bf9234a5544b/tumblr_mimo5127bT1s6bepto1_400.gif This! because they are like Ebola |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:22:32 PM EDT
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Alliens win, the aliens always win http://38.media.tumblr.com/f99bc3759ab955c5c3b1bf9234a5544b/tumblr_mimo5127bT1s6bepto1_400.gif Alien/predator hybrid from Requiem wins everything |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:23:43 PM EDT
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A terminator with a phased plasma rifle in the 800 watt range.... The Terminator is going to win this one. Terminator couldn't even whack an unarmed woman and a meatbag from the future that showed up in his birthday suit. Predator smokes terminator with his shoulder thingey that goes up while cloaked before terminator even identifies the target with his 80's style monochromatic 320x240 HUD. Hollywood is going to have to rely on backstory and character development (ha!) to fill their 90 minutes. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:24:51 PM EDT
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Alien/predator hybrid from Requiem wins everything Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Alliens win, the aliens always win http://38.media.tumblr.com/f99bc3759ab955c5c3b1bf9234a5544b/tumblr_mimo5127bT1s6bepto1_400.gif Alien/predator hybrid from Requiem wins everything are you talking about the last few seconds when the ship had just taken off? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:25:35 PM EDT
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That's a good point... so far we've only see the Predators' fudd guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff. That's a good point... so far we've only see the Predators' fudd guns. Maybe the movie Preds are all blue state country club hunters-where are the born in the bayou redneck Preds at? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:28:44 PM EDT
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Terminators are way overrated and actually pretty stupid.
Let's not forget that the ragtag human resistance movement defeated the entire machine army in the future by learning the machines' patterns and weaknesses. That's why the machines resorted to sending terminators back through time. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:28:52 PM EDT
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Terminator couldn't even whack an unarmed woman and a meatbag from the future that showed up in his birthday suit. Predator smokes terminator with his shoulder thingey that goes up while cloaked before terminator even identifies the target with his 80's style monochromatic 320x240 HUD. Hollywood is going to have to rely on backstory and character development (ha!) to fill their 90 minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A terminator with a phased plasma rifle in the 800 watt range.... The Terminator is going to win this one. Terminator couldn't even whack an unarmed woman and a meatbag from the future that showed up in his birthday suit. Predator smokes terminator with his shoulder thingey that goes up while cloaked before terminator even identifies the target with his 80's style monochromatic 320x240 HUD. Hollywood is going to have to rely on backstory and character development (ha!) to fill their 90 minutes. Story: Predator ship returns for alien hunt (Aliens vs. Predator) to find the world in war between humans and robots (Terminator Salvation). Predators wage war against machines in attempt to restore their game preserve. Lots of action and we get to see a predator army fir the first time. If course big emphasis on hand to hand combat kills for honor. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:29:22 PM EDT
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Terminator. Easy Peasy. All he has to do is go in unarmed, the Predator will follow its Yautja Code of Honor and go in unarmed as well. Terminator smashes the Pred into little glowing green giblets. Done and done. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:31:34 PM EDT
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The Terminator as shown in the movies is actually pretty lame. In the Hollywood version of each, the Predator would easily win.
In reality, anything with sufficient AI would be able to eliminate everything in it's path in a fraction of a second. The processing power required for AI would be far enough along that target acquisition, bullet trajectory calculation, and so on would be so advanced that no biological target could hope to survive. It's where our current technologies are headed, but I guess that's a different topic. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:33:21 PM EDT
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Story: Predator ship returns for alien hunt (Aliens vs. Predator) to find the world in war between humans and robots (Terminator Salvation). Predators wage war against machines in attempt to restore their game preserve. Lots of action and we get to see a predator army fir the first time. If course big emphasis on hand to hand combat kills for honor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A terminator with a phased plasma rifle in the 800 watt range.... The Terminator is going to win this one. Terminator couldn't even whack an unarmed woman and a meatbag from the future that showed up in his birthday suit. Predator smokes terminator with his shoulder thingey that goes up while cloaked before terminator even identifies the target with his 80's style monochromatic 320x240 HUD. Hollywood is going to have to rely on backstory and character development (ha!) to fill their 90 minutes. Story: Predator ship returns for alien hunt (Aliens vs. Predator) to find the world in war between humans and robots (Terminator Salvation). Predators wage war against machines in attempt to restore their game preserve. Lots of action and we get to see a predator army fir the first time. If course big emphasis on hand to hand combat kills for honor. ok, take my money. I'm a sucker for aliens/terminator/predator. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:36:17 PM EDT
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Remember, the Predators in the movies were loaded out for specific game. Like you would bring a .22 to hunt rabbits, but not water buffalo.
If he knew he was going up against a T-800 I'd imagine he would bring weapons that could cut through endoskeleton like not butter. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:36:31 PM EDT
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The Terminator as shown in the movies is actually pretty lame. In the Hollywood version of each, the Predator would easily win. In reality, anything with sufficient AI would be able to eliminate everything in it's path in a fraction of a second. The processing power required for AI would be far enough along that target acquisition, bullet trajectory calculation, and so on would be so advanced that no biological target could hope to survive. It's where our current technologies are headed, but I guess that's a different topic. I think the only actually sentient, self aware machine was Skynet itself. Its soldiers, such as the terminators, may have been advanced but weren't actually sentient. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:48:39 PM EDT
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Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff. Both use energy weapons though and a Terminator's optics should be able to detect a predator through its visual cloak. You also forget that Skynet was able to figure out time travel, so it's not like the Terminators don't come from an advanced "society" either. The Terminator also doesn't get tired, although I'm sure the Predator has amazing stamina. I still say it could go either way and that it's a toss up.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:50:50 PM EDT
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Ranged is a toss up. Melee is still a bit of a toss up. The predator melee weapons can still maybe penetrate the terminator. Pure hand to hand it's no contest with the terminator dismembering the predator. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think you're biased. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:52:05 PM EDT
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Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff. I like this answer. I'll agree. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:53:25 PM EDT
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The real question is: who wins in single combat, Ripley or Sarah Connor? This is why we need celebrity death match to return to tv.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 1:57:08 PM EDT
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I think you're biased. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ranged is a toss up. Melee is still a bit of a toss up. The predator melee weapons can still maybe penetrate the terminator. Pure hand to hand it's no contest with the terminator dismembering the predator. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think you're biased.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:02:03 PM EDT
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Maybe the movie Preds are all blue state country club hunters-where are the born in the bayou redneck Preds at? I say... good show old boy! That hairless biped almost got away but you dug in with your Purdey and he fell like a stone. Care for a spot of brandy before the wives are done on the tennis court? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:02:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:04:58 PM EDT
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If it bleeds we can kill it.
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:07:12 PM EDT
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The real question is: who wins in single combat, Ripley or Sarah Connor? This is why we need celebrity death match to return to tv. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Can we use alien hybrid Ripley? |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:10:34 PM EDT
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I think the only actually sentient, self aware machine was Skynet itself. Its soldiers, such as the terminators, may have been advanced but weren't actually sentient. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Terminator as shown in the movies is actually pretty lame. In the Hollywood version of each, the Predator would easily win. In reality, anything with sufficient AI would be able to eliminate everything in it's path in a fraction of a second. The processing power required for AI would be far enough along that target acquisition, bullet trajectory calculation, and so on would be so advanced that no biological target could hope to survive. It's where our current technologies are headed, but I guess that's a different topic. I think the only actually sentient, self aware machine was Skynet itself. Its soldiers, such as the terminators, may have been advanced but weren't actually sentient. The Terminators are too which is facilitated by their "neural net processor." They're "thinking machines" but Skynet keeps a tight leash on them. It's explained in the Terminator 2 extended cut. Remember though that even at the end of the theatrical Terminator 2, the Terminator tells John he understands now why he cries, implying that he's able to think and reason. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:13:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Predators are no match for a terminator in unarmed combat. However, the Predators are from an advanced race capable of easily traveling between the stars. And they are hunters who don’t mind a challenge, but who are going to make sure their weapons are capable of eliminating their prey. It’s sort of like how we hunt grizzly bears with high powered rifles. But, if someone put us up against robot grizzlies with armor plating we would hunt them with Javelin missiles. Since the Predators are so advanced, we can bet they have all kinds of fancy weapons that they consider overkill when hunting lowly humans. Against a Terminator they would break out the heavy stuff.  To answer the OP, the Predator. Once Fang Face see's the Mechanical Austrian, he will just use his shoulder thing that goes up to kill him from distance. |
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:15:50 PM EDT
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The real question is: who wins in single combat, Ripley or Sarah Connor? This is why we need celebrity death match to return to tv. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lena 
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Posted: 10/20/2014 2:16:40 PM EDT
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The real question is: who wins in single combat, Ripley or Sarah Connor? This is why we need celebrity death match to return to tv. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Not counting the super strong clone, Ripley would fair better than your average woman because she is fearless, cunning, and strong willed, but Sarah Connor was insinuated to have tried to learn everything she could to survive/fight. She beat the shit out of the orderlies at the hospital for example and they're used to physically dealing with crazy people. |
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