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Posted: 10/18/2014 10:24:12 PM EDT
Ever since I could remember I was told stories of my great grandmother being full blooded Cherokee. She had a dark complexion, long black hair, and her family was on the Trail Of Tears. According to family history, she never registered with the government as Indian because great grandpa wouldn't take charity from the government.
My brother has been going on Ancestry.com and researching the family, his results show no records indicate great grandma was Indian. He checked his work with that of our cousin, and her research also shows no Indian blood. Some of our older relatives weren't happy with the research, yet they couldn't explain why there was no sign of Indian in the family's past. So my brother took the Ancestry DNA test. He got the results back today and posted them on Facebook. Native American 0%. The older relatives are not happy, and some are saying they don't believe the test. Personally I find it interesting that both historical records and science support the idea that we are not Indian. I bet many people would be shocked, and many family histories altered by DNA results. Seems like everyone claims a little Indian blood, and Jesse James has so many relatives he must have spent more time screwing than robbing. |
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Dammit! Now you're going to tell us you don't have any Viking blood either?
Sign on tribe's genealogist desk, "We're sorry, the tribe never had kings or queens so your great-great grandmother was NOT an Indian Princess." |
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every place I've worked had multiple people claiming NA ancestry
I think its some sort of white guilt defense mechanism or Indians and whites did a lot of fucking 200 years ago |
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Quoted: Dammit! Now you're going to tell us you don't have any Viking blood either? Sign on tribe's genealogist desk, "We're sorry, the Choctaw never had kings or queens so your great-great grandmother was NOT an Indian Princess." View Quote Apparently we are mostly Great Britain, and the rest various parts of Europe. All this white guilt is crushing me.... |
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I'm 100% Native American.
Quite a few generations going back in my direct blood line born and raised in America. As far as Indian, the only Indian we have in our family tree was a female Indian one of my relatives married. They never had kids, so my family line has no Indian blood, but we do have an Indian in our family tree. |
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Pretty common.
Everyones grandmother was an indian princess. |
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This is why I rarely believe people's stories of their storied history and tend to laugh about people who obsess over it especially given lack of proof (DNA). I tend to stick with the people I've met.
I know Scottish royalty in exile, knew so many decendents of Robert E Lee or some other southern generals, everyone and their mom has been here since the mayflower and everyone's ancestors were on it it's all just legends. I'm sure there are tons of people who raised a kid that wasn't theirs but didnt want to admit to it, tweaked a few details, or just straigh made shit up and now people chest thump over it. |
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I did one of those DNA tests, turns out I am 99% viking and 1% asian somehow.
So I am diverse. |
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No sweat, all that matters is what race you feel you belong to.
From the EEOC guidelines: Q: What should an employer do if it believes that an employee is of a different race or ethnicity than the employee claims to be? A: The employer must accept the employee’s self-identification by race and by ethnicity. Self-identification is a basic principle underlying these changes to the EEO-1 report. See 70 Fed. Reg. 71296. |
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My five year old told his teacher he is half Indian, half viking, half monkey and half human. Kid cracks me up every day.
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my mom has this big long story about how we are kin to osceola . how GGGGgrandfathers wife was his sister, etc.or something like that.
ive basically debunked it using ancestry and other historical databases but she won't listen. There is one part of the family that does have cherokee blood according to family history and some data I have found supports it but I would LOVE to do the DNA test to try to put that stuff to rest. I think a lot of these come from grandpa telling wild stories to kids and the kids believing it like we all do and no one ever bothering to tell the kids when they got older that grandpa was pulling their leg so they accepted it as fact and passed it on. I was also told "our family never owned slaves" all I'll say is GR |
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I grew up being told that our family was British, as we came over on an English ship.
He did, but it was as a Scottish prisoner of war after the Battle of Worcester in 1651. |
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Ever since I could remember I was told stories of my great grandmother being full blooded Cherokee. She had a dark complexion, long black hair, and her family was on the Trail Of Tears. According to family history, she never registered with the government as Indian because great grandpa wouldn't take charity from the government. My brother has been going on Ancestry.com and researching the family, his results show no records indicate great grandma was Indian. He checked his work with that of our cousin, and her research also shows no Indian blood. Some of our older relatives weren't happy with the research, yet they couldn't explain why there was no sign of Indian in the family's past. So my brother took the Ancestry DNA test. He got the results back today and posted them on Facebook. Native American 0%. The older relatives are not happy, and some are saying they don't believe the test. Personally I find it interesting that both historical records and science support the idea that we are not Indian. I bet many people would be shocked, and many family histories altered by DNA results. Seems like everyone claims a little Indian blood, and Jesse James has so many relatives he must have spent more time screwing than robbing. View Quote Your brother must have been adopted. |
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Quoted: Then what are you? View Quote Britain 58%, Scandinavia 13% Europe West 5% Iberian Peninsula 6%, Europe east 5%, Ireland 4%, European Jewish 4%, Italy/Greece 3%, Russia 0%, American Native Indian 0% Asia Central >1% Asia South 0%, Polynesia 0% Melanesia 0% Caucasus 0%, Middle East 0% Africa - all regions 0% |
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My five year old told his teacher he is half Indian, half viking, half monkey and half human. Kid cracks me up every day. Hope it wasn't his math teacher. slowclap.gif, and a big +1 for the avatar. |
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Ever since I could remember I was told stories of my great grandmother being full blooded Cherokee. She had a dark complexion, long black hair, and her family was on the Trail Of Tears. According to family history, she never registered with the government as Indian because great grandpa wouldn't take charity from the government. My brother has been going on Ancestry.com and researching the family, his results show no records indicate great grandma was Indian. He checked his work with that of our cousin, and her research also shows no Indian blood. Some of our older relatives weren't happy with the research, yet they couldn't explain why there was no sign of Indian in the family's past. So my brother took the Ancestry DNA test. He got the results back today and posted them on Facebook. Native American 0%. The older relatives are not happy, and some are saying they don't believe the test. Personally I find it interesting that both historical records and science support the idea that we are not Indian. I bet many people would be shocked, and many family histories altered by DNA results. Seems like everyone claims a little Indian blood, and Jesse James has so many relatives he must have spent more time screwing than robbing. View Quote I'm in the same boat. Supposedly there was an Indian on both sides of my family, like great grandmothers. AncestryDNA result: 0% Native American. Jimmies were rustled lol. |
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Quoted: I'm in the same boat. Supposedly there was an Indian on both sides of my family, like great grandmothers. AncestryDNA result: 0% Native American. Jimmies were rustled lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ever since I could remember I was told stories of my great grandmother being full blooded Cherokee. ... I'm in the same boat. Supposedly there was an Indian on both sides of my family, like great grandmothers. AncestryDNA result: 0% Native American. Jimmies were rustled lol. WAIT A MINUTE..... One family's history being flawed is plausible, however two, TWO, entirely different family histories being flawed? We just proved that the entire basis of DNA is wrong!!!!!!! Gather up all those prisoners that were released under DNA findings, they are obviously guilty and the science is WRONG. Get Drudge Report on the phone this is breaking news. |
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Skip the Indian line and just gun for your 4% discount at the deli.
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I think it has something to do with the popularity of western films beginning with the advent of motion picture technology.
There are probably lots of Indians on the reservation who would be shocked to find out how much white blood they have, but when it comes to white families most would be surprised to find out that they don't have any Indian. Prior to the 20th Century mixed race children weren't accepted in society, there were laws that prevented acceptance if it had been socially acceptable (which is wasn't). A white man marrying an Indian would have been no more socially or legally acceptable prior to the 20th century than a white man taking a black wife. The concept of White women with Indian men would have been beyond unacceptable, it would have likely resulted in the Indian man being hung and the woman being given a forced abortion and already born children sent to orphanages. |
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My grandmother was 1/4 Cherokee but wasn't a princess. She died of TB at age 32 after dropping seven kids. She's on the Dawes Roll, named Blanch Sixkiller.
One of these days I'm going to collect the birth certificates and apply for membership in the tribe. I don't expect to ever get anything out of it but it might come in handy someday. |
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Quoted: So I am diverse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I did one of those DNA tests, turns out I am 99% viking and 1% asian somehow. So I am diverse. vikings were traders (which i'm sure you know), and they actually had a fair connection with central asia. Its East-Asian, so I guess they sailed their longhshps to go get some Soju. |
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Scotch - Irish - English - French - German - Norwegian is what my Mom told us kids; I have no knowledge of the relative percentages.
However, I just like to say that I'm 100.0%... AMERICAN!!! and proud of it! |
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It's not polite to refer to them as Indians. The preferred title is Casino-American. |
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So crazy is fat soluble, good to know. |
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The Ancestry DNA test was $99. They send you a vial, you spit in it, and send it back. Wait a couple months, and you get the results.
What I found interesting was one of my other cousins had done this previously. When my brother got the results from his DNA, included in the report was a comment that my brother's DNA matched closely with "Cousin's Name". It really is amazing what they can do with DNA. |
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1% Asia Central
88% Great Britain 6% Italy/Greece 2% Irish 2% Finland/Northwest Russia <1% Scandinavian Apparently I have more British DNA than the average person who lives there. |
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I attended the University of North Carolina and was surprised at how many people claimed to be partially Native American when discussing the matter in some class. That might not be so funny but everyone who said this had overwhelmingly European features while claiming to have a grandmother or great times however many that was some fraction Cherokee.Not any other tribe,never entirely and always a female ancestor.
It made me come to the conclusion that 1/10 of North Carolina is the progeny of one incredibly fecund partially Cherokee woman |
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Quoted: I attended the University of North Carolina and was surprised at how many people claimed to be partially Native American when discussing the matter in some class. That might not be so funny but everyone who said this had overwhelmingly European features while claiming to have a grandmother or great times however many that was some fraction Cherokee.Not any other tribe,never entirely and always a female ancestor. View Quote What is odd is the relatives old enough to have seen my grandmother all state how she looked to be Indian. From the complexion, facial features, hair, etc. by all accounts she looked to be 100% Indian. Now the question comes up, what was she really and why claim to be Indian? Be interesting to see if it can be traced back thru historical records. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It's not polite to refer to them as Indians. The preferred title is Casino-American. When I worked at a Indian casino I got reprimanded for singing the "one little, two little Indians" song as I watched the higher ups come out of an office after a meeting. In my defense, it was a small office and there was a surprising number of people in there.... |
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I swear every damn person in Alabama claims to have Cerokee blood. I've done a number of genealogy searches for people and those that had the whole "Cherokee Blood" in the family story usually ended up having an ancestor listed as mulatto on the census records.
For instance, my wife (black) had the same story in her family. Turns out her great grandmother went to work as a house servant for a white family. Got knocked up by the father, returned home to her parents and had a half white-black kid. Indian blood story was used to cover up the affair. |
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