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Posted: 10/17/2014 9:44:45 PM EDT
So I grew up on the west coast and have traveled quite a bit with the army in the last 10 years but never had very much desire to go to New England. Well today I was bored and looking at random stuff and that's when I discovered fir the first time that Long Island is not all city. I grew up thinking that Long Island, New York City and Manhattan were all just different words for the same place. I had no idea that the place was so big either. I guess there is still agriculture on the island too?
So now that I am curious I have to ask. How is gun ownership on the rest of Long Island? Do people still hunt for either waterfowl or deer? What about shooting ranges? I hope this post made your day New Yorkers. |
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Parts of it are great. I love the North Fork. There are a ton of vineyards there. I also accidentally ended up in the largest pro-gun rally I'be ever seen in Suffolk County where they were protesting the SAFE Act.
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I have been up to LI many times parts are fun , parts are ghetto
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I hate LI with as much passion as I hate NYC.
That said, there's some AWESOME shark and striper fishing off of Montauk |
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Butte is the armpit of Montana. lol I know no comparison.
I got lost in some definitely sketchy areas of Petersburg-Richmond, VA when I was in school at Ft Lee a few years ago |
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So now that I am curious I have to ask. How is gun ownership on the rest of Long Island? Do people still hunt for either waterfowl or deer? What about shooting ranges? View Quote Lots of gun stores and ranges in Suffolk County. Many in Nassau too but I don't know them as well. Many LI gun owners but they tend to keep a low profile. The pistol licensing agencies in both counties are borderline criminal organizations that treat licensees like shit and only issue restricted ccw. Waterfowl hunting is still legal in certain areas I think. |
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Lots of gun stores and ranges in Suffolk County. Many in Nassau too but I don't know them as well. Many LI gun owners but they tend to keep a low profile. The pistol licensing agencies in both counties are borderline criminal organizations that treat licensees like shit and only issue restricted ccw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So now that I am curious I have to ask. How is gun ownership on the rest of Long Island? Do people still hunt for either waterfowl or deer? What about shooting ranges? Lots of gun stores and ranges in Suffolk County. Many in Nassau too but I don't know them as well. Many LI gun owners but they tend to keep a low profile. The pistol licensing agencies in both counties are borderline criminal organizations that treat licensees like shit and only issue restricted ccw. HEY NOW! Suffolk PD alleviated all my fears by telling me that you will get a 3-day notice prior to being raped/assaulted/robbed/murdered. For some reason the detectives that show up to the ER for the stabbing/gunshot victims don't like when I openly state that little tidbit. On the whole most POs think shit like the SAFE act are bogus. One even skipped ticketing me because of my UNSAFE patch. As far as LI living: Taxes on a small family home on a 100x100 plot are 8-10K. My average tax increase is around 250/yr. Traffic sucks. You need to drive off the island to get anywhere. 65-70 miles takes 2+ hours and costs about $40 in tolls. Our infrastructure is so fucking old that we get a few tens of thousands out of power for varying lengths of time every storm. Because we're sucked dry to fund this socialist state (90% of the UPK fund goes to NYC) there is no way to spend the few billion it would take to actually bring out power structure to modern levels. People here are actually proud of never having lived anywhere else. Teachers and Cops make more then entire average household incomes. Upvote every school district budget, wonder why your kids can't afford a decent place to live. |
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Long Island has several natural areas and parks set aside, and areas to hunt, but in the end, it's heavily urbanized. Take a look at the images on Google Earth.
The satellite photos of the NYC region are interesting, particularly the place names that make me wonder about how it looked in the 18th Century, and they reinforce my aversion to visiting there. |
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Long Island has several natural areas and parks set aside, and areas to hunt, but in the end, it's heavily urbanized. Take a look at the images on Google Earth. The satellite photos of the NYC region are interesting, particularly the place names that make me wonder about how it looked in the 18th Century, and they reinforce my aversion to visiting there. View Quote I did look at google earth thats what made me say WTF?! |
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Way back when I learned there was NYC, LI, and Upstate.
No idea what the Western part of the state is called to this day, and I do not really care. I will never move there. BTW the upstate part is beautiful in the fall. |
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So I grew up on the west coast and have traveled quite a bit with the army in the last 10 years but never had very much desire to go to New England. Well today I was bored and looking at random stuff and that's when I discovered fir the first time that Long Island is not all city. I grew up thinking that Long Island, New York City and Manhattan were all just different words for the same place. I had no idea that the place was so big either. I guess there is still agriculture on the island too? So now that I am curious I have to ask. How is gun ownership on the rest of Long Island? Do people still hunt for either waterfowl or deer? What about shooting ranges? I hope this post made your day New Yorkers. View Quote . We have an aerial picture of our place on the island (nassau cty) where it was 1 of 3 houses. After that nothing but fields & trees. NOTHING. Early / mid 60's when most of NYPD's finest did a white flight and got the hell out NYC. Regarding guns and hunting, no people, no problem. Going through some storage bins last weekend and found a patch for the gun club i was a member of. It's sad when you're told you need to leave at least 3 hours before your flight because traffic is never ending. Keep in mind that's for a 25-30 mile drive,to JFK, forget about LaGuardia. I tell them if we drove 3 hours in CO we'd be in another state, with traffic! |
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Way back when I learned there was NYC, LI, and Upstate. No idea what the Western part of the state is called to this day, and I do not really care. I will never move there. BTW the upstate part is beautiful in the fall. View Quote Western NY is basically Canada. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running?
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Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? View Quote They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. Yep....... LI isn't that bad, politics like the rest of NY blow, but that's par for the course. Very expensive to live here, in nice parts anyway (high taxes). Sorry guy you're in denial. Expensive?? sell your place, out here that money gets you 35+ acres with a house and still have 1/2 your capital gains left. Stop signs are there for the drunk to hit when making a U-Turn. No CCW, No NFA . It's a state of NO. |
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Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. That almost makes no sense, back then that place was like the wild west. It still is in a way. They do cowboy action shooting out there now. |
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I was born and raised on Long Island in Suffolk county (Port Jefferson Station). My home was between two potato farms. It was a great place to grow up in the 60's and 70's. I wouldn't want to live there now. Most of the farms are gone and the harbor is a big tourist spot, traffic sucks.
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Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. That almost makes no sense, back then that place was like the wild west. 8 - 10 guys with a marlin SRC the lowest capacity, slowest firing rifle there. Each of us took an easy 1/2 doz semi's (H&K's FN's Colt's etc) For some reason they didn't like us. Must have been the H-D decals on the vans & trucks, and long hair. |
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Quoted: That almost makes no sense, back then that place was like the wild west. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. That almost makes no sense, back then that place was like the wild west. I remember going there back in the 80s, and the old guy (George I believe) would be sitting in his piece of shit car collecting money. Every now and then you would get one of the range Nazis on duty there, but it was normally very laid back. |
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No kidding.
When I got out of the Army I worked at a Factory. My immediate Supervisor believed that Only Manhattan Island was New York City; The Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn were not part of NYC. Having lived in The Bronx and Queens at different times I could not understand how ignorant a person can truly be. I should have gotten him a map and explained things to him. We sure delivered to much of The City. |
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Quoted: They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. Yep....... LI isn't that bad, politics like the rest of NY blow, but that's par for the course. Very expensive to live here, in nice parts anyway (high taxes). Sorry guy you're in denial. Expensive?? sell your place, out here that money gets you 35+ acres with a house and still have 1/2 your capital gains left. Stop signs are there for the drunk to hit when making a U-Turn. No CCW, No NFA . It's a state of NO. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. Yep....... LI isn't that bad, politics like the rest of NY blow, but that's par for the course. Very expensive to live here, in nice parts anyway (high taxes). Sorry guy you're in denial. Expensive?? sell your place, out here that money gets you 35+ acres with a house and still have 1/2 your capital gains left. Stop signs are there for the drunk to hit when making a U-Turn. No CCW, No NFA . It's a state of NO. I'm not in denial thanks, definitely fully aware of the ups and downs of the place. |
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I was born and raised on Long Island in Suffolk county (Port Jefferson Station). My home was between two potato farms. It was a great place to grow up in the 60's and 70's. I wouldn't want to live there now. Most of the farms are gone and the harbor is a big tourist spot, traffic sucks. View Quote We'd ride out to Mattituck (Hooterville) friend of ours had a little 2 bd rm in the middle of those fields. You could ride up 110 to huntington Sta. There was a gas station up there sold Race fuel, 110 + octane. Drop $1-2 in your tank perk that shovel or panhead right up. Ride up to northport then over to oyster bay on those side roads, no street lights. damn 30-40 years things sure have changed. Now CO is in the shitter Those east & left coast folks bring that Lets Change This Mentality, so it's more like where we use to live. |
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More like the mouth of it. The armpit is geographically lower, perhaps around Camden. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It is the armpit of hell. More like the mouth of it. The armpit is geographically lower, perhaps around Camden. Camden is most assuredly the asshole. |
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I grew up there.
99% of the area where I lived was all built out. No real fields or woodlands to speak of, other then a few parks. Infrastructure is OLD and wasn't up to handling the 1970s, much less today's world. Power/water distribution, roads, etc are awful. Everything is GOD awful expensive. Most homes have tiny lots/no backyards and no garage space. House I grew up in was on a 50x100 lot shared with another house. Everything rusts. Nassau and Suffolk must get kickbacks from the road salt industry and invest their 401k money in the car companies. Property taxes are nuts. Seems to be a settling place for immigrants. When I was growing up it was Italians, Irish, Greeks etc. The running joke is that Long Island has a larger Jewish population then Israel. Now it is Indians, Pakistanis, Koreans and Central/South Americans. An unusual amount of talent in film and music comes from LI. We left in the late 80s and over the years most of my family and a good percentage of my childhood friends have pulled the handle and escaped. |
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I've been shooting on Long Island. Some decent ranges there but, they will get closed down just like all of the drag strips did. The agriculture is a joke, it is for the NYC dwellers to oogle at and buy overpriced crap from farm stands, in between stops on their drunken winery tours, while they think they are out in "the country".
There is a refreshing backlash of locals only type sentiment out on the north fork of the island though. |
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I've always been curious about New York. I have all these area/city names in my head from movies and watching Law & Order. I feel like I know a place I've never been to.
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OP you beat me.
Never been there so it's still one big shit stain to me |
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I remember going there back in the 80s, and the old guy (George I believe) would be sitting in his piece of shit car collecting money. Every now and then you would get one of the range Nazis on duty there, but it was normally very laid back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Is the sand pit range at the end of the island still running? They tossed us out of there back in 79-80 for having too many guns. That almost makes no sense, back then that place was like the wild west. I remember going there back in the 80s, and the old guy (George I believe) would be sitting in his piece of shit car collecting money. Every now and then you would get one of the range Nazis on duty there, but it was normally very laid back. A couple of friends of mine knew George well and still have permission to hunt the range. Buddy took a huge buck in 09 PS LI's LIE sucks beyond words and I hate having to go down there to visit family. |
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I loved Long Island but got the fuck out when my taxes kept going up, up, up to fund the NYC welfare machine....The SAFE act just reinforced the fact that I would never go back..
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My gf is from there and her family business happens to be gun stores, she insists on telling me how great it is and that I have to come up with her sometime. But after seeing how they treat gun owners up there no thank you.
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Thanks, I now know more about NY than i had ever intended too
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I've always been curious about New York. I have all these area/city names in my head from movies and watching Law & Order. I feel like I know a place I've never been to. View Quote The place they stole the "Aloha Snack bar" sign from is in Aquebogue. The "horror house" is in Amityville. There used to be a F1 worthy racetrack out east at Bridgehampton (I went to the last organized event there, a Ferrari club event). Grumman used to fly F14s out of Calverton and Fairchild built the A10 prototypes in Farmingdale. Lindbergh took off for France from Roosevelt field. Hemingway sort of bred 5 toed cats around LI and there are plenty there these days. Lots of cool history and happenings there but mostly gum popping and guidos these days. |
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Wow so way back in the day like after WWII Long Island would have probably been a cool place to live and raise a family. I also have learned way more than I thought tonight.
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I also learned that from Google Maps
I've spent a lot of time exploring cities on street view. |
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My parents grew up in the 5 towns in the 40-50s, went to college in the 60s and never went back. We would go up to my aunt&uncle's place in the summers there in the 70s and 80s as they belonged to a beach club near to Point Lookout on Long Beach barrier island.
His place was destroyed by Sandy in 2011. |
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In before Cumia
Edit - who takes his Barrett .50 and other toys out pretty frequently. Montauk rules. The surf at rockaway rules. The LIE sucks shitty ass. The island has a number of very, very, very nice places to live if you have the money. Upstate NY = basically everything north and west of Orange County. Buffalo, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, Plattsburgh, etc. are all "upstate". The politics and gun laws are brutal, but the Adirondack area is one of the most beautiful places in the country....certainly on the east coast. |
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It is the armpit of hell. View Quote Sorry you cant afford to live here. But seriously, NYC produces some of the most conservative and libertarian people alive as they see what big gov can and will do. Its the minorities and super rich libs in their litteral ivory towers that fuck us |
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