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Posted: 10/3/2014 6:32:07 PM EDT
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you tell me 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 6:36:45 PM EDT
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Tell you what? Lottery numbers for Saturday? |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 6:39:44 PM EDT
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A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the cops have gun sniffing dogs. lol Are the cops carrying guns when they are running the dog?  The only "gun sniffing" dogs I have heard of are game warden dogs that look for spent shell casings, but can find guns also. Never heard of anyone else having them because sniffing guns doesn't generate revenues for departments like sniffing drugs. You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me they have dogs that can sniff out explosives. So I wouldn't doubt they have dogs sniff out guns |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 6:50:01 PM EDT
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You didn't repeat "Am I being detained" over and over? Is it illegal to have guns with you in NY, even if you're passing through on your way to somewhere else? According to FOPA, no. But... NY doesn't care. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 6:55:34 PM EDT
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I have 2 sniffing dogs right here next to me.
Hamburger sniffing dogs. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:11:47 PM EDT
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Lucky you didn't have a dog in your truck.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:19:16 PM EDT
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I have 2 sniffing dogs right here next to me. Hamburger sniffing dogs. Damn, and I just did another run of hamburger bullets, too 
Oh well, back to the drawing board... *tosses bullets in pan* |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:21:14 PM EDT
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oh man. This is great. Good job, OP!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:31:01 PM EDT
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That's why I don't live in NY
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:34:25 PM EDT
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So I was in NY picking up some gear I stored at a friends house in NY. I had 8 empty 50 call ammo cans and a Pelican carbine sized case with a soft case inside. I was headed home to my new home in PA going up 17 when I got pulled over for allegedly speeding. Trooper approached I produced my stuff. He looks in the back seat and asks what's in the cans and the case. I said air. He asks to take a peek I politely refuse. Visibly angry he starts to tell me about the gun sniffing dog NYSP have and that under the SAFETY act he has the right to detain me. I smiled and said Oh really? Tell ya what Sir. I will wait for the dog. He stepped back flummoxed. He started with if there's nothing in the cans and case how come I can't look. I told him the 4th ammend. Is why.He mumbled something to the affect of me being one of those guys and then asked me if I was a lawyer. I replied no I have a soul. I then asked him how long did he think the dog would take to get here. He told me to sit and walked back to his car. I also asked him if the SAFETY act was the same as the SAFETY act. He didn't answer. 15 mins later he walks back throws my stuff at me and tells me I'm lucky he has a "crime call" and takes off lights and siren. 5 mins later I see him at a gas station just sitting there. I chose to go to a different station so as not to press my luck. I know CSB but.... Be wary. That kind of experience would compel me to buy some extra ammo cans and an extra gun case to leave in the back seat permanently. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:38:30 PM EDT
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Do you think that retired LE deserves preferential treatment? I do not even think current LEO deserve special treatment. Just because they wear a badge it does not make them special ..... unless they rode the short bus to the academy. 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:42:03 PM EDT
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Ehh. Staties have always been professional and pretty decent to me. Last time I had an interaction I got pulled over for tinted front windows. Legit gripe. Female trooper, checked the tint, said that it was a targeted deal due to drug problems in the area. Had a 1911 on my hip and a Garand on the seat next to me. No questions, just said that I might want to remove the tint to avoid future problems, no ticket, have a good day.
I have dealt with asshole cops, they do exist but troop E staties have always been more than fair. YMMV.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:42:51 PM EDT
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ETA I'm also Retired LE and produced my retired cred hence no ticket I guess. But he was dying to get in those cans. PS I've never had a negative interaction with a NYS Trooper before this. But this kid wanted the big pinch I guess. No flame whatsoever, but that's the reason he likely didn't push it even more so. Although he did do a good job of busting your balls. Nice work on your part! 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:43:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:43:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gun sniffing dogs? That's a new one  |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:44:38 PM EDT
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I think the cop may have acted differently. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you have acted differently if you didn't have your LE creds on you? ( Serious Question) I think the cop may have acted differently. Gosh, ya think? |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:46:04 PM EDT
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Seriously??? You're calling out a guy who's been a good member here since '02?! Wow. 
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That happened exactly like that Seriously??? You're calling out a guy who's been a good member here since '02?! Wow.
Well DualRectifier has been here a whole 7 months. 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:49:42 PM EDT
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That happened exactly like that he pulled the "retired LEO" card. otherwise the cop would have been a king-size prick. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 7:58:08 PM EDT
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Back in fall of 2012 I got pulled over in Maine for a plate light. Had my wife's car, and the entire cargo area was covered with ammo cans. When the trooper asked what was inside the cans I told him, and said he was welcome to see for himself.
I think the poor guy almost had a stroke 
Lesson learned ... |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:00:32 PM EDT
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they have dogs that can sniff out explosives. So I wouldn't doubt they have dogs sniff out guns Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the cops have gun sniffing dogs. lol Are the cops carrying guns when they are running the dog? The only "gun sniffing" dogs I have heard of are game warden dogs that look for spent shell casings, but can find guns also. Never heard of anyone else having them because sniffing guns doesn't generate revenues for departments like sniffing drugs. You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me they have dogs that can sniff out explosives. So I wouldn't doubt they have dogs sniff out guns It could just be the ammo in the firearm they're sniffing out since double-based propellents have nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine. Otherwise, I'm not sure exactly what they would be hitting on in terms of the gun itself. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:00:35 PM EDT
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Back in fall of 2012 I got pulled over in Maine for a plate light. Had my wife's car, and the entire cargo area was covered with ammo cans. When the trooper asked what was inside the cans I told him, and said he was welcome to see for himself. I think the poor guy almost had a stroke
http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/ammo_cans.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/pmag_dry_box_storage.jpg Lesson learned ... Have you attempted to fly since? Lol |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:08:40 PM EDT
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Have you attempted to fly since? Lol Heh 
Yes I have, with no issues thankfully 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:12:22 PM EDT
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Fill a can full of doughnuts. May have to do that one on the next trip to Rochester to visit the wife's parents. The wife gets a lead foot on the Thruway between Buffalo and Rochester. 
May get one of my 50 cal cans and fill it with doughnuts in Erie. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well DualRectifier has been here a whole 7 months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That happened exactly like that Seriously??? You're calling out a guy who's been a good member here since '02?! Wow. Well DualRectifier has been here a whole 7 months. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HOLD ON!!!!! You were driving around with ammo cans and a gun case IN PLAIN VIEW ??????? What is that line from the movie FOREST GUMP???? Trying to remember it but it escapes me. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:45:38 PM EDT
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Dog can smell more than seven rounds??!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:46:46 PM EDT
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That happened exactly like that Making the class of 13 look better every day. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:48:56 PM EDT
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At first I thought the OP asked the cop if the Safety Act was the same as the Safety Dance!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 8:49:33 PM EDT
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Good on you for sticking up for your rights. Ya might want to slow down driving through the People's Republic of New York!! Route 17 is called The Quickway for a reason.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:06:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Making the class of 13 look better every day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That happened exactly like that Making the class of 13 look better every day. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:06:55 PM EDT
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That happened exactly like that Exactly. Like. That. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:08:02 PM EDT
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Back in fall of 2012 I got pulled over in Maine for a plate light. Had my wife's car, and the entire cargo area was covered with ammo cans. When the trooper asked what was inside the cans I told him, and said he was welcome to see for himself. I think the poor guy almost had a stroke
http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/ammo_cans.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/pmag_dry_box_storage.jpg Lesson learned ... Nice, kinda jealous That's funny most leo just ask me where I picked up the cans and mags.. (no I don't get pulled over) it's usually at the range or if I end up cleaning their patrol car. He must of been one of the leo that don't like civilians having same or better rifles then them.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:09:28 PM EDT
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That happened exactly like that Making the class of 13 look better every day. I read your poor excuse. Now sit down. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:10:45 PM EDT
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Hoppes sniffing dogs. I buy that.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:14:34 PM EDT
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Don't worry. Those cops won't enforce those unconstitutional laws. same ones that won't pick up the Jews in 38'? |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:17:20 PM EDT
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Awesome job Chief!
NYSP rank and file are for the most part against SAFE, but there are also plenty of true believer assholes too...sounds like you ran into one, but handled it, like, well, a Chief! Have a cold one in the goat locker on me! ETA The brass on the other hand, especially at the top, if you know what I mean, are a bunch of Cuomo ball lickers... |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:18:44 PM EDT
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He hates these cans!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:18:55 PM EDT
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Yes I probably wouldn't have said shit and let him look. If I had guns I'd refuse the consent to search and roll the dice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Would you have acted differently if you didn't have your LE creds on you? ( Serious Question) Yes I probably wouldn't have said shit and let him look. If I had guns I'd refuse the consent to search and roll the dice. it just hit me hard. So sad its come to this. " If I had guns" going to do my best to stay away from NY |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:21:21 PM EDT
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... I like it!
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:31:52 PM EDT
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A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So the cops have gun sniffing dogs. lol Are the cops carrying guns when they are running the dog? The only "gun sniffing" dogs I have heard of are game warden dogs that look for spent shell casings, but can find guns also. Never heard of anyone else having them because sniffing guns doesn't generate revenues for departments like sniffing drugs. You would be hard pressed to convince me as a juror that a dog found a gun in a car if a trooper was wearing a gun, or had had a gun on earlier, while he was looking for a gun. lol Think about that for a second. That is like a 100% chance the dog will alert. A Police K-9 pointed out my truck at work one time, there just happened to be firearms inside you tell me About the 1/2 sack of hydro blueberry kush kush in your gym bag? I bet that shit was sticky as shit and sent you to the clouds. 
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:35:08 PM EDT
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff.
OP is retarded. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:36:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in fall of 2012 I got pulled over in Maine for a plate light. Had my wife's car, and the entire cargo area was covered with ammo cans. When the trooper asked what was inside the cans I told him, and said he was welcome to see for himself. I think the poor guy almost had a stroke http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/ammo_cans.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~cjan99999/pmag_dry_box_storage.jpg Lesson learned ... With that load on Long Island, you would be the lead story on the NYC stations at 6pm Standard capacity magazines and pistol ammo without a pistol license.I have to keep asking myself WHY I still live here |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:37:21 PM EDT
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Don't worry. Those cops won't enforce those unconstitutional laws. Especially the state troopers. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:38:43 PM EDT
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff. OP is retarded. Really? So now we have to be afraid when carrying "visible gun stuff" even when its empty? Man, don't even know what to say to that one.... |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:40:47 PM EDT
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So I was in NY picking up some gear I stored at a friends house in NY. I had 8 empty 50 call ammo cans and a Pelican carbine sized case with a soft case inside. I was headed home to my new home in PA going up 17 when I got pulled over for allegedly speeding. Trooper approached I produced my stuff. He looks in the back seat and asks what's in the cans and the case. I said air. He asks to take a peek I politely refuse. Visibly angry he starts to tell me about the gun sniffing dog NYSP have and that under the SAFETY act he has the right to detain me. I smiled and said Oh really? Tell ya what Sir. I will wait for the dog. He stepped back flummoxed. He started with if there's nothing in the cans and case how come I can't look. I told him the 4th ammend. Is why.He mumbled something to the affect of me being one of those guys and then asked me if I was a lawyer. I replied no I have a soul. I then asked him how long did he think the dog would take to get here. He told me to sit and walked back to his car. I also asked him if the SAFETY act was the same as the SAFETY act. He didn't answer. 15 mins later he walks back throws my stuff at me and tells me I'm lucky he has a "crime call" and takes off lights and siren. 5 mins later I see him at a gas station just sitting there. I chose to go to a different station so as not to press my luck. I know CSB but.... Be wary. ETA I'm also Retired LE and produced my retired cred hence no ticket I guess. But he was dying to get in those cans. PS I've never had a negative interaction with a NYS Trooper before this. But this kid wanted the big pinch I guess. TLDR version: I didn't have my 2nd and 4th amendment rights violated by a JBT because I'm retired LE. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:41:51 PM EDT
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Really? So now we have to be afraid when carrying "visible gun stuff" even when its empty? Man, don't even know what to say to that one.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Speeding on 17 w/ visible gun stuff. OP is retarded. Really? So now we have to be afraid when carrying "visible gun stuff" even when its empty? Man, don't even know what to say to that one.... It's the environment we live in. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:45:11 PM EDT
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Oh man, sounds like the experiences I had with the NYSP when I was younger. Can't believe he didn't know the acronym for the bogus laws he was trying to use against you. They never like it when you don't consent to a search, and they always threaten to get the dogs or a warrant. They just want you to consent and they'll say anything to get you to. I haven't had an officer try to search me since I was a teenager, but I always keep my firearm related stuff in the trunk and out of sight. Glad you made it back across the border to freedom without too much trouble.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:45:48 PM EDT
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I wonder what happened to all of those Troppers that said they would not enforce the Safe Act as they thought it was BS.
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:47:08 PM EDT
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ETA I'm also Retired LE and produced my retired cred hence no ticket I guess. But he was dying to get in those cans. PS I've never had a negative interaction with a NYS Trooper before this. But this kid wanted the big pinch I guess. I've yet to see a NYS trooper who gave a shit after I showed him my police ID. |
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Posted: 10/3/2014 9:48:33 PM EDT
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All of the sudden, I have a new found respect for you, sir.
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Don't worry. Those cops won't enforce those unconstitutional laws. And this. 
I was assured that this would not be enforced. 
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