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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:28:08 PM EDT
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Science is bullshit ... for the bible tells me so.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:29:52 PM EDT
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Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:31:05 PM EDT
[#3]
lol ok
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:32:34 PM EDT
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I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:32:46 PM EDT
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Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. Grant welfare is the devil |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:33:10 PM EDT
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lol
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:33:39 PM EDT
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Scientific method is a perfect framework used to understand something that is not yet understood. However fools leap to conlusions and claim they were reached with science.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Science is bullshit ... for the bible tells me so. No...science is understanding what God made. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:42:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. Says the guy posting on the internet.  |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:44:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Pastafari.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:45:10 PM EDT
[#11]
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http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/09/science-is-for-stupid-people.html?m=1 Science is a rigorous way of making fewer mistakes. It’s not very useful to people who already know everything. Science is for stupid people who know how much they don’t know. A lot of good food for thought in here. The author doesn't really expand on it, but this touches on the replacement of religious faith in God with religious faith in the nebulous concept of "science." One no longer asserts the appeal to authority of holy writ, one claims that "science" has "proven" whatever non-reproducible thing it is that you believe. lol, no. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:45:20 PM EDT
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This kind of thing just does wonders for the Republican party.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:45:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Certainly people never did stupid things in the name of religion before science led them astray.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:46:04 PM EDT
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I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. LOL wut? So a criminal using a gun in a crime gives all gun owners a bad name. A bad boss means all bosses are bad? Etc etc |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:46:08 PM EDT
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Lotta folks in here who A. didn't read the article B. have no grasp of what "science" actually is.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:46:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/09/science-is-for-stupid-people.html?m=1 Science is a rigorous way of making fewer mistakes. It’s not very useful to people who already know everything. Science is for stupid people who know how much they don’t know. A lot of good food for thought in here. The author doesn't really expand on it, but this touches on the replacement of religious faith in God with religious faith in the nebulous concept of "science." One no longer asserts the appeal to authority of holy writ, one claims that "science" has "proven" whatever non-reproducible thing it is that you believe. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:46:44 PM EDT
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This kind of thing just does wonders for the Republican party. Did you actually read the article? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:46:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lotta folks in here who A. didn't read the article B. have no grasp of what "science" actually is. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:47:10 PM EDT
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Next to useless. Says the guy posting on the internet.
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Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. Says the guy posting on the internet.
Don't confuse science with engineering. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:47:30 PM EDT
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Only people who don't understand what "proven" is claim that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/09/science-is-for-stupid-people.html?m=1 Science is a rigorous way of making fewer mistakes. It’s not very useful to people who already know everything. Science is for stupid people who know how much they don’t know. A lot of good food for thought in here. The author doesn't really expand on it, but this touches on the replacement of religious faith in God with religious faith in the nebulous concept of "science." One no longer asserts the appeal to authority of holy writ, one claims that "science" has "proven" whatever non-reproducible thing it is that you believe. Which is most people, which is the point of the article. Your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you actually read the article? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This kind of thing just does wonders for the Republican party. Did you actually read the article? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:50:19 PM EDT
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LOL wut? So a criminal using a gun in a crime gives all gun owners a bad name. A bad boss means all bosses are bad? Etc etc Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. LOL wut? So a criminal using a gun in a crime gives all gun owners a bad name. A bad boss means all bosses are bad? Etc etc Please don't misunderstand me. I still have high regard for respectably peer reviewed science that is honestly done in the name of increasing knowledge. I just think that the integrity of science in general has suffered from scientists allowing themselves to be used as political lapdogs in the way that global warming proponents have. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't confuse science with engineering. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. Says the guy posting on the internet. Don't confuse science with engineering. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:51:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:52:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please don't misunderstand me. I still have high regard for respectably peer reviewed science that is honestly done in the name of increasing knowledge. I just think that the integrity of science in general has suffered from scientists allowing themselves to be used as political lapdogs in the way that global warming proponents have. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. LOL wut? So a criminal using a gun in a crime gives all gun owners a bad name. A bad boss means all bosses are bad? Etc etc Please don't misunderstand me. I still have high regard for respectably peer reviewed science that is honestly done in the name of increasing knowledge. I just think that the integrity of science in general has suffered from scientists allowing themselves to be used as political lapdogs in the way that global warming proponents have. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:53:51 PM EDT
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No...science is understanding what God made. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Science is bullshit ... for the bible tells me so. No...science is understanding what God made. I like that. 
I'll read the article later. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:55:44 PM EDT
[#27]
Yeah fuck science. Imagine how much more advanced we would be without it.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:55:46 PM EDT
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For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:56:36 PM EDT
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And the integrity of gun owners has suffered due to the actions of people like Adam Lanza? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. LOL wut? So a criminal using a gun in a crime gives all gun owners a bad name. A bad boss means all bosses are bad? Etc etc Please don't misunderstand me. I still have high regard for respectably peer reviewed science that is honestly done in the name of increasing knowledge. I just think that the integrity of science in general has suffered from scientists allowing themselves to be used as political lapdogs in the way that global warming proponents have. In the public eye? We had a stellar situation in Utah until very recently. Guns can be carried in schools as long as you have a CCL. We went years without any incidents which was a great way to shut down any of the "blood in the streets" claims that were traditionally thrown around by the anti-gun crowd. Then a few weeks ago a local teacher has a negligent discharge in a school bathroom. Next thing you know the newspaper editorial staff and others are all over the story to exploit it and paint gun possession at school in a bad light. So yeah, a few bad apples can hurt the whole bunch in the public eye. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:56:43 PM EDT
[#30]
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Yeah fuck science. Imagine how much more advanced we would be without it. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:56:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you actually read the article? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This kind of thing just does wonders for the Republican party. Did you actually read the article? |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:58:48 PM EDT
[#32]
GD WINS AGAIN!!! lol |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 6:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have. Great point. ETA::Oh, and I read the article, and it was a bunch of rambling, barely coherent assertions that are loosely tied together. The article lacked structure and was extremely poorly written. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:00:17 PM EDT
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Quoted: Science is for stupid people who know how much they don’t know. Stupid people don't know how much they don't know. Smart people are capable of being aware of their own ignorance, unless they let themselves be blinded by hubris. You also need a baseline of knowledge to know that there is more to learn on a given subject, but again this does not have anything to do with being stupid. Stupid != ignorant
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:01:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. Point to me a period in history when that wasn't the case. The reality, the historical record confirming this, is that eventually the truth and rigor transcends this bullshit.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:01:49 PM EDT
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I do not understand "what that actually is have hijacked"? Great point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have. Great point. People who do not understand what the scientific method is and is not have hijacked the term to promote their non-scientific ideas. I can't diagram a sentence on here but hopefully the spacing clears it up. "Because science says so" has replaced "Because God/Allah/the spirits of our ancestors say so" as the most popular appeal to authority. ETA: for example, all of the reporting where the initial actual science says "In this limited dataset we believe we may have some evidence that X may have some effect on Y" and the headlines say "Science proves X causes Y!" And then politicians need to stick their dick further into your life because science! |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:02:12 PM EDT
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Point to me a period in history when that wasn't the case. The reality, the historical record confirming this, is that eventually the truth and rigor transcends this bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had high regard for science until so many scientists from certain fields became little more than lapdogs for politicians. Point to me a period in history when that wasn't the case. The reality, the historical record confirming this, is that eventually the truth and rigor transcends this bullshit. Good point. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:04:29 PM EDT
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Some of what he says makes sense if you think of "science", as (the nebulous) GD often does, as tantamount to global warming, evolution, and social studies.
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:05:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People who do not understand what the scientific method is and is not have hijacked the term to promote their non-scientific ideas. I can't diagram a sentence on here but hopefully the spacing clears it up. "Because science says so" has replaced "Because God/Allah/the spirits of our ancestors say so" as the most popular appeal to authority. ETA: for example, all of the reporting where the initial actual science says "In this limited dataset we believe we may have some evidence that X may have some effect on Y" and the headlines say "Science proves X causes Y!" And then politicians need to stick their dick further into your life because science! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have. Great point. People who do not understand what the scientific method is and is not have hijacked the term to promote their non-scientific ideas. I can't diagram a sentence on here but hopefully the spacing clears it up. "Because science says so" has replaced "Because God/Allah/the spirits of our ancestors say so" as the most popular appeal to authority. ETA: for example, all of the reporting where the initial actual science says "In this limited dataset we believe we may have some evidence that X may have some effect on Y" and the headlines say "Science proves X causes Y!" And then politicians need to stick their dick further into your life because science! |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:05:46 PM EDT
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Some of what he says makes sense if you think of "science", as (the nebulous) GD often does, as tantamount to global warming, evolution, and social studies. His entire point was that non-scientific things are being branded as "science." |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:06:06 PM EDT
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Next to useless. Says the guy posting on the internet.
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Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. Says the guy posting on the internet.
Al Gore created the internet. He's not a scientist. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:06:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some of what he says makes sense if you think of "science", as (the nebulous) GD often does, as tantamount to global warming, evolution, and social studies. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:06:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His entire point was that non-scientific things are being branded as "science." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some of what he says makes sense if you think of "science", as (the nebulous) GD often does, as tantamount to global warming, evolution, and social studies. His entire point was that non-scientific things are being branded as "science." |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:07:39 PM EDT
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And that's science's fault how? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have. Great point. People who do not understand what the scientific method is and is not have hijacked the term to promote their non-scientific ideas. I can't diagram a sentence on here but hopefully the spacing clears it up. "Because science says so" has replaced "Because God/Allah/the spirits of our ancestors say so" as the most popular appeal to authority. ETA: for example, all of the reporting where the initial actual science says "In this limited dataset we believe we may have some evidence that X may have some effect on Y" and the headlines say "Science proves X causes Y!" And then politicians need to stick their dick further into your life because science! For a scientist you're remarkably dense. The point of the article is not impugning actual science. It is pointing out that people are attempting to claim authority for their views by labeling them as "science" or "scientific" when they are not. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:09:50 PM EDT
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No...science is understanding what God made. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Science is bullshit ... for the bible tells me so. No...science is understanding what God made. God is for explaining things you don't understand by creating a supernatural sky man. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:11:35 PM EDT
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I read several rambling and incoherent paragraphs, not seeing a point, I gave up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This kind of thing just does wonders for the Republican party. Did you actually read the article? No kidding. I guess if you're not good enough to get your work published, publish it yourself on a "blog". |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:11:37 PM EDT
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Science is bullshit ... for the bible tells me so. 
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:11:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For a scientist you're remarkably dense. The point of the article is not impugning actual science. It is pointing out that people are attempting to claim authority for their views by labeling them as "science" or "scientific" when they are not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: For all the folks too butthurt to read the actual article, the point is not to impugn the actual scientific process: merely to point out that many folks who do not understand what that actually is have hijacked the term and use it to further whatever non-scientific idea they have. Great point. People who do not understand what the scientific method is and is not have hijacked the term to promote their non-scientific ideas. I can't diagram a sentence on here but hopefully the spacing clears it up. "Because science says so" has replaced "Because God/Allah/the spirits of our ancestors say so" as the most popular appeal to authority. ETA: for example, all of the reporting where the initial actual science says "In this limited dataset we believe we may have some evidence that X may have some effect on Y" and the headlines say "Science proves X causes Y!" And then politicians need to stick their dick further into your life because science! For a scientist you're remarkably dense. The point of the article is not impugning actual science. It is pointing out that people are attempting to claim authority for their views by labeling them as "science" or "scientific" when they are not. We've seen it in this thread. Its a two way street. |
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Posted: 9/30/2014 7:13:02 PM EDT
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Let's be honest, nowadays science is next to useless. The publish or perish mentality in academia has destroyed it. I want the science back they had in the 60's with all the technology and knowledge of today. All those guys with slide rulers in the NASA control center during a lift off- they should be in charge of all scientific stuff today. Objectivity. No bullshit. Get shit done. No bullshit political agendas to prove... |
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