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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:38:22 PM EDT
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? In the Navy we carried the M11 (P228) As a helo guy we also got an M4 when over land. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:39:20 PM EDT
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:40:29 PM EDT
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If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:41:54 PM EDT
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In the Navy we carried the M11 (P228) As a helo guy we also got an M4 when over land. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? In the Navy we carried the M11 (P228) As a helo guy we also got an M4 when over land. Good to know, thank you. better than a sharp stick. I knew helo pilots had stuff (because of blackhawk down), didn't know if there was room inside a fighter cockpit. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:42:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state.   NATO allies are NOT supposed to shoot zingers @ our fighter pilots.  
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:43:15 PM EDT
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AR 7 is still in use on some birds up here.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:44:12 PM EDT
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NATO allies are NOT supposed to shoot zingers @ our fighter pilots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. NATO allies are NOT supposed to shoot zingers @ our fighter pilots. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:45:04 PM EDT
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2nd PNI
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:45:22 PM EDT
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? Yes, on their survival vest |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:46:36 PM EDT
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AR 7 is still in use on some birds up here. Helo or fixed wing? Or both? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:47:28 PM EDT
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M9 is standard issue for USAF aircrew.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:52:10 PM EDT
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M9 is standard issue for USAF aircrew. Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:52:30 PM EDT
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not contemporary, but my dad was a tanker pilot in VN and he carried a handgun. was issued a .38, but that stayed on the ground--he brought his PO 1911 instead.
that gun now resides in my nightstand.  |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:54:36 PM EDT
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Helo or fixed wing? Or both? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AR 7 is still in use on some birds up here. Helo or fixed wing? Or both? Both. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:55:43 PM EDT
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not contemporary, but my dad was a tanker pilot in VN and he carried a handgun. was issued a .38, but that stayed on the ground--he brought his PO 1911 instead. that gun now resides in my nightstand.
That's cool. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:58:21 PM EDT
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Also a difference in stateside training missions vs combat missions, exercises, etc.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 11:59:42 PM EDT
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The dude I flew my last trip with was an F16 driver back in the day. He told me that he flew with a sidearm.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:00:29 AM EDT
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AR 7 is still in use on some birds up here. AR 7? Hot damn. Learn something new everyday. Though a 22lr in AK seems a tad underpowered. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:01:23 AM EDT
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Yes. M-9
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:02:08 AM EDT
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Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M9 is standard issue for USAF aircrew. Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. For fighter pilots, sidearm is carried in holster attached to survival vest. Cant have anything on the legs due to the g-suit and ejection seat. No way it would stay with you during an ejection in a leg holster anyways. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:02:48 AM EDT
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Also a difference in stateside training missions vs combat missions, exercises, etc. What if he has to eject over Camden? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:03:45 AM EDT
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Also a difference in stateside training missions vs combat missions, exercises, etc. Right, I was thinking combat missions or support missions in Afghan, Syria and Iraq. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:03:52 AM EDT
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HI Points.....gotta keep costs down, ya know...
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:14:52 AM EDT
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Going by the squadrons I was in, only when flying over hostile territory (Iraqi no-fly zone).
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:21:19 AM EDT
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Right, I was thinking combat missions or support missions in Afghan, Syria and Iraq. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also a difference in stateside training missions vs combat missions, exercises, etc. Right, I was thinking combat missions or support missions in Afghan, Syria and Iraq. I'm sure you know but asking for too many details will get the thead derailed. As it probably should. Curiousity notwithstanding. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:22:54 AM EDT
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For fighter pilots, sidearm is carried in holster attached to survival vest. Cant have anything on the legs due to the g-suit and ejection seat. No way it would stay with you during an ejection in a leg holster anyways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M9 is standard issue for USAF aircrew. Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. For fighter pilots, sidearm is carried in holster attached to survival vest. Cant have anything on the legs due to the g-suit and ejection seat. No way it would stay with you during an ejection in a leg holster anyways. That makes sense. Quoted:
HI Points.....gotta keep costs down, ya know... 
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:24:54 AM EDT
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I knew an A-10 pilot who said they carried M9s.
He said the worst part of getting shot down would be the loss of 21mm of "hurtin' power". |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:24:59 AM EDT
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Yes. M-9 In a modular survival vest. The green ones were phased out around 2004, and the tan ones that replaced them could have the pouches moved around. The green vests make a decent hiking vest which gives you a crossdraw holster along with all the other stuff you can keep organized in it - metal match, tritium compass, knife, etc. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:28:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew an A-10 pilot who said they carried M9s. He said the worst part of getting shot down would be the loss of 21mm of "hurtin' power". |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:49:47 AM EDT
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not contemporary, but my dad was a tanker pilot in VN and he carried a handgun. was issued a .38, but that stayed on the ground--he brought his PO 1911 instead. that gun now resides in my nightstand.
My father in law also said he carried a .38 on his vest in VN. He flew helos in the Navy. I have both of his knives, but he didn't get to keep the gun. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 12:53:05 AM EDT
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Also a difference in stateside training missions vs combat missions, exercises, etc. So, if your flight path traverses Chicago or Camden, do they give you bigger guns? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:09:22 AM EDT
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My uncle was a fighter jock earlier on in his career. I believe he said they were issued 38 snubbies. He also carried a Colt Woodsman and claimed many of the other pilots did the same.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:15:18 AM EDT
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That's cool. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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not contemporary, but my dad was a tanker pilot in VN and he carried a handgun. was issued a .38, but that stayed on the ground--he brought his PO 1911 instead. that gun now resides in my nightstand.
That's cool. X2 |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:19:19 AM EDT
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There are several stories of an A-7 pilot from Vietnam who carried a lot of small arms and even grenades, and was pretty well set to take the war to Charlie on foot. I'm trying to remember his callsign.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:26:04 AM EDT
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? What planet are you from and why are you here? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:27:43 AM EDT
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There are several stories of an A-7 pilot from Vietnam who carried a lot of small arms and even grenades, and was pretty well set to take the war to Charlie on foot. I'm trying to remember his callsign. I remember a thread featuring him recently. Damnit. It was something about a guy who liked to use guns. Maybe a SaigamanTX thread? |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:29:04 AM EDT
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If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. God forbid the land in Canada with a prohibited firearm |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 1:52:52 AM EDT
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I remember a thread featuring him recently. Damnit. It was something about a guy who liked to use guns. Maybe a SaigamanTX thread? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are several stories of an A-7 pilot from Vietnam who carried a lot of small arms and even grenades, and was pretty well set to take the war to Charlie on foot. I'm trying to remember his callsign. I remember a thread featuring him recently. Damnit. It was something about a guy who liked to use guns. Maybe a SaigamanTX thread? Oh, thanks for narrowing it down.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:08:52 AM EDT
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First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role.
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:13:17 AM EDT
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I bought a colt government 380 salt and pepper gun from a fighter pilot who said he carried it during his tour in desert storm. Paid 6 for it, in the box, looks to be unfired. So for what it's worth i guess. I didn't care as this was in 2008 before colt started selling to the public again. And even gov' 380's were selling for 900 then, i thought it was a deal
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:16:30 AM EDT
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Oh, thanks for narrowing it down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are several stories of an A-7 pilot from Vietnam who carried a lot of small arms and even grenades, and was pretty well set to take the war to Charlie on foot. I'm trying to remember his callsign. I remember a thread featuring him recently. Damnit. It was something about a guy who liked to use guns. Maybe a SaigamanTX thread? Oh, thanks for narrowing it down. lol |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:17:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:20:55 AM EDT
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Quoted: Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Melissa Newcomb from the 52nd Operation Support Squadron at Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, helps an F-16 Fighting Falcon pilot verify the serial number on his sidearm before departing March 19, 2011, in support of Operation Odyssey Dawn
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:27:24 AM EDT
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First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role. It took them 13 years to show up to the party! |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:29:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR 7? Hot damn. Learn something new everyday. Though a 22lr in AK seems a tad underpowered. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AR 7 is still in use on some birds up here. AR 7? Hot damn. Learn something new everyday. Though a 22lr in AK seems a tad underpowered. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:33:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just thinking about our F-22 pilots tonight. If so, what do they have? G17? P226? M9? Thoughts? If I were an American fighter pilot, I'd be afraid of ejecting with a sidearm over New York, Mass. or other unfree state. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:34:35 AM EDT
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Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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M9 is standard issue for USAF aircrew. Drop leg holster or tac vest holster? Just curious. Like this. 
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:47:38 AM EDT
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It took them 13 years to show up to the party! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role. It took them 13 years to show up to the party! The first operational F-15 was delivered to the USAF is 1974. The first USAF F-15 air to air kill happened in 1991. And F-22s have been operating out of the base they are at for a few years. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 2:53:43 AM EDT
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The first operational F-15 was delivered to the USAF is 1974. The first USAF F-15 air to air kill happened in 1991. And F-22s have been operating out of the base they are at for a few years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role. It took them 13 years to show up to the party! The first operational F-15 was delivered to the USAF is 1974. The first USAF F-15 air to air kill happened in 1991. And F-22s have been operating out of the base they are at for a few years. We weren't in a perpetual state of war (shooting war) from 74-91 either. First Air kill was in '78...just not an American. I know they've been "there". I've seen them. |
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Posted: 9/24/2014 3:19:00 AM EDT
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We weren't in a perpetual state of war (shooting war) from 74-91 either. First Air kill was in '78...just not an American. I know they've been "there". I've seen them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First F-22 pilots would have to be deployed in a combat role. It took them 13 years to show up to the party! The first operational F-15 was delivered to the USAF is 1974. The first USAF F-15 air to air kill happened in 1991. And F-22s have been operating out of the base they are at for a few years. We weren't in a perpetual state of war (shooting war) from 74-91 either. First Air kill was in '78...just not an American. I know they've been "there". I've seen them. Let me get this straight. You think F-22s should have been flying CAS missions. Why in the fuck should we be using them for that when we have much better options?
Why use 22s when Strike Eagles and Lawn Darts do a much better job? |
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