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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:21:02 AM EDT
Saw this on a facebook gun group. Looks like they made off with quite a few NFA weapons and a shitload of ammo. I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it
http://www.wthr.com/story/26590195/2014/09/22/truckload-of-dangerous-weapons-stolen-from-indianapolis-store http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2014/09/22/military-weapons-ammo-stolen-far-westside-gun-shop/16038675/ According to police, the trailer was filled with the following firearms and accessories: 3 M16 type fully automatic rifles 2 full auto AK47s A Beretta Auto Sear machine gun A Century Arms machine gun 5 HK MP5 type sub-machine guns A Century Arms Tantal machine gun A full auto Thompson 1928A1 sub-machine gun A full auto UZI sub-machine gun An Ohio Ordinance 249 SAW belt fed full auto machine gun Pistols include: 2 Ruger semi autos A Beretta 92FS semi auto 2 Sig Sauer semi autos 2 Kimber semi auto handguns An HK 45T semi auto pistol There were two short barrelled rifles — one a Mosin 91/30 and the other a Vector Arms PTR-91P, two Remington 870 shotguns and one Savage Arms 720 shotgun. Police say there were also 16 suppressors in the trailer along with approximately 20,000 rounds of mixed ammunition, a pallet jack, and $2,500 worth of miscellaneous magazines. The trailer has two red and white shields and star logos on the upper rear of trailer. It has a IN 2015 trailer plate of TR371UAE. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 317-262-TIPS. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:24:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:25:32 AM EDT
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damn looks like everything was just sitting in this trailer and someone hooked up and took that shit.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:26:12 AM EDT
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Stupid on all accounts.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:26:18 AM EDT
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I bet they don't leave shit like that out in a trailer again. Idiots.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:27:32 AM EDT
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because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it
because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES I am talking more about the value of several NFA guns and 20k + rounds of ammo. I know I wouldn't leave that much shit just sitting in a trailer unattended. It has fuck all with their capabilities or "weapons of mass destruction" as it does $100K + worth of assets. That is just stupid. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:28:28 AM EDT
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ISIS arming up.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:29:51 AM EDT
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Asshats that did this sure as shit didn't go through any Background Check, and they didn't use the "Gun Show Loophole" either.
This is how criminals acquire their firearms. Theft. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:29:53 AM EDT
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"Ah, fuck it, Jim, we'll unload that shit tomorrow."
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:29:54 AM EDT
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The owners posted in an indy gun forum that one of the guns stolen was a M249
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:29:57 AM EDT
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Looks like someone is going to have a fun weekend of shooting.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:30:04 AM EDT
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I think I know the owner of that trailer...he is a retired marine scout sniper that now does "logistics". Off to make a phone call.......
Eta: whew, not him. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:34:22 AM EDT
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[yawn] ATF already did this one [yawn]
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:40:23 AM EDT
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Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post.
I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:44:08 AM EDT
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Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post. I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. Sorry but leaving $100K+ worth of inventory especially FA/ NFA items and a 249 just sitting behind your shop if stupid. The owner is a fucking moron. Hell I have a safe bolted inside my car to hold a $600 pistol if I can't take it in where I am going. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:45:59 AM EDT
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Asshats that did this sure as shit didn't go through any Background Check, and they didn't use the "Gun Show Loophole" either. This is how criminals acquire their firearms. Theft. Although I'm sure it will be written down as the criminals obtained the guns from a gun shop. Anti-gunners have to raise their percentages some how. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:48:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am talking more about the value of several NFA guns and 20k + rounds of ammo. I know I wouldn't leave that much shit just sitting in a trailer unattended. It has fuck all with their capabilities or "weapons of mass destruction" as it does $100K + worth of assets. That is just stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES I am talking more about the value of several NFA guns and 20k + rounds of ammo. I know I wouldn't leave that much shit just sitting in a trailer unattended. It has fuck all with their capabilities or "weapons of mass destruction" as it does $100K + worth of assets. That is just stupid. I really do not think they were Transferable. So $100K maybe a little high..
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Posted: 9/22/2014 8:58:14 AM EDT
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I really do not think they were Transferable. So $100K maybe a little high.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it
because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES I am talking more about the value of several NFA guns and 20k + rounds of ammo. I know I wouldn't leave that much shit just sitting in a trailer unattended. It has fuck all with their capabilities or "weapons of mass destruction" as it does $100K + worth of assets. That is just stupid. I really do not think they were Transferable. So $100K maybe a little high.. They posted a list on their FB. Some were transferable some were post samples. and hell if it was 20K rounds of .22lr thats 100K easily on its own 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:00:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am talking more about the value of several NFA guns and 20k + rounds of ammo. I know I wouldn't leave that much shit just sitting in a trailer unattended. It has fuck all with their capabilities or "weapons of mass destruction" as it does $100K + worth of assets. That is just stupid. I really do not think they were Transferable. So $100K maybe a little high..  |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:01:56 AM EDT
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What's the black market value on NFA stuff? I can't imagine it being anywhere near the legal market price.
I was at Knob Creek a few years back when rumor circulated that an M60 was lifted off a table. I hate thieves.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:02:14 AM EDT
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I think I know the owner of that trailer...he is a retired marine scout sniper that now does "logistics". Off to make a phone call....... Eta: whew, not him. Even right down to another unit stealing his shit. He's still got his .mil skills
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:02:53 AM EDT
[#21]
maybe terrorists
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:05:43 AM EDT
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maybe terrorists No shit Imagine the shit storm if ISIS made off with a trailer full of NFA items and 20K rounds of ammo. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:06:48 AM EDT
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Fucking idiot.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:08:53 AM EDT
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No shit Imagine the shit storm if ISIS made off with a trailer full of NFA items and 20K rounds of ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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maybe terrorists No shit Imagine the shit storm if ISIS made off with a trailer full of NFA items and 20K rounds of ammo. How would hadji know? I guarantee the owner or someone who works for him knows who stole it. Too much trust. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:13:19 AM EDT
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This is one of those perfect examples of "Loose lips sink ships" An employee mentioned it to a friend, a what do you know, missing trailer.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:14:36 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: Saw this on a facebook gun group. Looks like they made off with quite a few NFA weapons and a shitload of ammo. I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:16:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post. I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. Trailer in front of gun shop... gee, I wonder what's in it? I don't leave guns locked in my car at home in my garage, much less a trailer full of them in front of a gun store! That's beyond stupid. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:17:25 AM EDT
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Asshats that did this sure as shit didn't go through any Background Check, and they didn't use the "Gun Show Loophole" either. This is how criminals acquire their firearms. Theft. Which is why we need to ban guns from law abiding citizens too. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:21:33 AM EDT
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Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post. I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. I'm sorry, but If you've got that much NFA shit that you have to bring with you, your ass better wake up early and load that shit up rather than do the easy thing and leave it sitting in a fucking trailer! 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:24:33 AM EDT
[#30]
Inside job or friend of an employee bragging about the company plans.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:26:59 AM EDT
[#31]
If I had to leave that much value in a trailer overnight, I'd box it in against the back of the building with an RV and sleep there.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:40:03 AM EDT
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Thinking out loud - Someone knew the trailer's contents?
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Inside job or friend of an employee bragging about the company plans. You get that feeling too? |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:40:25 AM EDT
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The thieves may have thought they were just getting a trailer. The guns were a bonus.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:42:41 AM EDT
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Didn't something very similar happen in PA just this past spring or winter too? Anyone know what the outcome was? I lost track of that thread and forgot about it until just now.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:51:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The thieves may have thought they were just getting a trailer. The guns were a bonus. Trailers that look like that, usually contain things. It's like a criminal storage wars... |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:55:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't something very similar happen in PA just this past spring or winter too? Anyone know what the outcome was? I lost track of that thread and forgot about it until just now. ETA:Found it here |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:58:05 AM EDT
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I was at Knob Creek a few years back when rumor circulated that an M60 was lifted off a table. I hate thieves. That wasn't a rumor. Actually happened. They caught the guy while he was trying to leave. Literally had the gun down his pants. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 9:59:39 AM EDT
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did they ever find the full auto weapons stolen from the FBI vans?
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:02:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post. I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. The owner was an idiot. Calling me a keyboard commando is a bold statement. Even though I am...but you hurt my feelings. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:08:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thinking out loud - Someone knew the trailer's contents? ETA: You get that feeling too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Thinking out loud - Someone knew the trailer's contents? ETA: Quoted: Inside job or friend of an employee bragging about the company plans. You get that feeling too?  Ditch the trailer after emptying the contents . Turn the guns into parts kits , destroy the receivers and any part with a serial # , stick the untraceable ammo back on your shelves . Wait for insurance check and rebuild your toyz . Profit |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:09:15 AM EDT
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These days leaving any type of box trailer unattended, especially overnite is asking to lose it. Hopefully the guys who stole this are going "oh shit" right now and didn't steal it knowing specifically what was in there with the intentions of using the contents for bad things. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:20:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Guys...lets not jump to conclusions yet. Calling the owner an idiot is a pretty bold statement, but of course easy for any keyboard commando to post. I know the owner and he has a very reputable business. I'm sure that in addition to being pretty ticked that he had a bunch of stuff stolen, that he's pretty ticked off at himself for the circumstances. From what I've read, the trailer was loaded up for a reloading swap meet that he helps organize, and the entire trailer was stolen, perhaps by being winched up onto a roll back or a flat bed trailer. Definitely someone new there were guns in there, and had a pretty bold plan to go after it. People do stupid things sometimes, this is one of them. He could be the nicest guy on earth, but a stupid action is stupid regardless of character. Still, fuck thieves. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:28:01 AM EDT
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damn looks like everything was just sitting in this trailer and someone hooked up and took that shit. http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h342/thedeadduck/1908412_10203258196868744_8575894845015789405_n_zps9a4483aa.jpg Yeah, no way I'd leave that in a parking lot, let alone full of guns and ammo. Needs to be in a locked garage or a fenced and patrolled lot. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:31:17 AM EDT
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Trailer theft is a hobby for crooks . It happens all the time at car shows and at races . They steal a trailer and have no idea what is inside.
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:33:11 AM EDT
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"Ah, fuck it, Jim, we'll unload that shit tomorrow." No kidding... |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:38:52 AM EDT
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Trailer theft is a hobby for crooks . It happens all the time at car shows and at races . They steal a trailer and have no idea what is inside. This. I bet they opened it like HOLY SHIT! What idiot leaves a trailer full of guns? |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:43:09 AM EDT
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Even right down to another unit stealing his shit. He's still got his .mil skills Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think I know the owner of that trailer...he is a retired marine scout sniper that now does "logistics". Off to make a phone call....... Eta: whew, not him. Even right down to another unit stealing his shit. He's still got his .mil skills I lost. 
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:45:42 AM EDT
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That wasn't a rumor. Actually happened. They caught the guy while he was trying to leave. Literally had the gun down his pants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I was at Knob Creek a few years back when rumor circulated that an M60 was lifted off a table. I hate thieves. That wasn't a rumor. Actually happened. They caught the guy while he was trying to leave. Literally had the gun down his pants. How big were those pants?
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:48:42 AM EDT
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because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know why the fuck they would leave that shit in a damn box trailer without someone pulling guard on it
because most people dont treat guns like weapons of mass destruction, unless you're a lib the problem in not the storage in the trailer, ITS FUCKING THEIVES No, the problem is that the gun store thought that a trailer was an acceptable place to store firearms (or any other merchandise) and didn't put a guard on it. Would you leave that much money inside a little trailer and a big sign next to it that says "Valuable shit locked inside and we didn't post a guard." Thieves are a fact of life. Just like muggers, murderers, and rapists. While we do hold the crime committer accountable, we also believe that individuals should take accountability for their own actions and minimize their risk. Most of us don't go out for a jog at 3 am. Most of us wouldn't encourage our female friends/relatives to go out drinking alone at 1 am. Most of us carry, not because we want to feel bad ass, but because we accept that there are bad people and wish to have an option to survive a potential encounter with those people. Likewise, most business owners/operators recognize that thieves have always and will always be present and they endeavor to discourage and prevent theft as much as possible. In this case, the LGS owner/operator did not do enough. Locking up valuable equipment outside in a trailer is not a good place. Not that they should have expected it to be stolen, but it really shouldn't surprise them. At the end of the day, locks are for honest people. |
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Posted: 9/22/2014 10:55:41 AM EDT
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Didn't something very similar happen in PA just this past spring or winter too? Anyone know what the outcome was? I lost track of that thread and forgot about it until just now. Guy brings about twenty, rare, collectible Thompsons. Sets them up at the show in glass cases, with absurd prices on them, like $350k for a non "storied one", sits around the entire show trying to stay awake. Sells nothing and isn't too talkative. After the last day, he parks all the collectable, rare Thompsons in the best place in town to put a vehicle to get broken into (behind the hotel, no overhead lights) next day: "omg they're all stolen!" Everyone with a pulse around here knows it was an insurance scam and all those Thomsons are in the guy's basement. |
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