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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:35:12 PM EDT
[#1]
It was all downhill after the P90 was phased out.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:35:14 PM EDT
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I don't care
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:35:23 PM EDT
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:36:11 PM EDT
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. This is correct. They are actually GSG .22 LR "MP5" |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s.  It's just like that movie I saw once. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:10 PM EDT
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The Police here carried MP5's for many years, still do actually
But we're seeing more and more 5.56 weapons, mostly LMT M4's and HK G36C's |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:25 PM EDT
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I worked at their HQ. They have an armory that would blow GD's mind.
ETA Union membership has its privileges. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:29 PM EDT
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Even the pop-up machine guns? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. Yes. Those are MP5's also. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:36 PM EDT
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. MP5 on-a-stick. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:37 PM EDT
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"Whitehouse , MP5's Outdated ?"
Yes, the whitehouse is outdated. No, MP5's are not outdated. Next set of questions please? :-) |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:40:46 PM EDT
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"10 millimeter explosive tip caseless. Standard light armor piercing round, why?"
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:42:41 PM EDT
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:44:19 PM EDT
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:48:38 PM EDT
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". Laugh if you want, they looked confused. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:49:36 PM EDT
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You should call the Secret Service and voice your concerns.
They love that. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:49:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:52:14 PM EDT
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They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. How did that workout ? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:53:14 PM EDT
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In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? The MP-5 is not what failed in this situation. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:53:53 PM EDT
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How did that workout ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. How did that workout ? The President's still alive, so rather well. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:54:46 PM EDT
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. Yup, MP5s as well. But I have heard from a good source; that they use long barreled MP5's with a Tasco 4x scope. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:55:54 PM EDT
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I think this weakness will embolden bad guys that are actual threats. They use those mp5s because of over penetration fears warranted or not.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:55:57 PM EDT
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It was all downhill after the P90 was phased out in. FIFY |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:56:03 PM EDT
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Yup, MP5s as well. But I have heard from a good source; that they use long barreled MP5's with a Tasco 4x scope. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. Yup, MP5s as well. But I have heard from a good source; that they use long barreled MP5's with a Tasco 4x scope. Are you sure you aren't talking about the guy who protected the mayor's nephew's anal virginity? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 6:57:00 PM EDT
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Are you sure you aren't talking about the guy who protected the mayor's nephew's anal virginity? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. Yup, MP5s as well. But I have heard from a good source; that they use long barreled MP5's with a Tasco 4x scope. Are you sure you aren't talking about the guy who protected the mayor's nephew's anal virginity? He too had an MP5 -- but with a Redfield scope. Redfield. Yeah. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:03:28 PM EDT
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The guys in plain clothes had MP5s but the dudes in tactical gear had tricked out SR16s.
Pistols caliber carbines are dumb but better than a pistol. Didnt the uniform guys used to have 870 SBS's?
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:04:06 PM EDT
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I used to think the USSS were some of the most professional and best trained people out of the alphabet agencies. Then the shoes being thrown at Bush, with the Iraqis taking the guy down instead of the SS, then the scandal with the whores in Columbia, and I know there's one other incident which escapes me at the moment, and now it's more like
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:12:52 PM EDT
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From the recent fence jump. MP5 goodness.
  The pokeman jumper. These guys had M4's and mean ass doggy.  |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. I would assume they have some nice .300 Win Mags ready to roll up there. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:16:49 PM EDT
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From the recent fence jump. MP5 goodness. http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/09/20/white-house-security_wide-89e5d3eec3df6d3d223c50f5050d5f4c52eb9e05-s4-c85.jpg http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20140920&t=2&i=975135716&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=580&pl=378&r=LYNXMPEA8J00K http://imgick.gulflive.com/home/gulflive-media/pgmain/img/mississippi-press/photo/2014/09/19/-b48f90c430feaf82.jpg The pokeman jumper. These guys had M4's and mean ass doggy. http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0JaRKie_PQw/0.jpg Day shift has to look more aggressive. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:18:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Did they really dump the P90? It sure looks like it. I had not heard that.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:22:36 PM EDT
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They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. Sounds good, except how did anyone know whether this guy had on a bomb vest or not? That would have made a nice mess inside the door of the White House.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:25:25 PM EDT
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Sounds good, except how did anyone know whether this guy had on a bomb vest or not? That would have made a nice mess inside the door of the White House. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. Sounds good, except how did anyone know whether this guy had on a bomb vest or not? That would have made a nice mess inside the door of the White House. President's out of town, not high enough odds to risk killing someone you don't absolutely have to? Target entry point wasn't going be very damaging? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:26:04 PM EDT
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In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? We gonna need a different president for me to care. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:27:38 PM EDT
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The President's still alive, so rather well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<snip> So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. How did that workout ? The President's still alive, so rather well. Actually, Obunghole wasn't even there, nor were the Wookie or their kids. Turning the guy's head into a canoe would probably not have gone over well in the press. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:30:08 PM EDT
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In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? I've been pondering how to word this, and can't quite figure it out properly, so I can only say that if you looked at U.S.S.S. agents, or Capitol Police officers, responding with MP-5s to something and thought somehow that 1600 Pennsylvania was a soft target because of that, you are very very wrong. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:31:30 PM EDT
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President's out of town, not high enough odds to risk killing someone you don't absolutely have to? Target entry point wasn't going be very damaging? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are snipers constantly on the WH roof. I doubt they're "sniping" with MP5s. So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. Sounds good, except how did anyone know whether this guy had on a bomb vest or not? That would have made a nice mess inside the door of the White House. President's out of town, not high enough odds to risk killing someone you don't absolutely have to? Target entry point wasn't going be very damaging? New tonight said the guy had a knife. Probably a pocket knife, but they'll use it to hang him. Not to mention he's a disabled veteran with PTSD, so they'll probably go on a binge to take away guns AND KNIVES from PTSD sufferers for the safety of everyone. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:32:00 PM EDT
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In the pictures I have seen of the Secret Service agents at the White House during the incursion this week, I noticed they all had MP5's. If a determined adversary showed up in body armor with AK/AR15's wouldn't the guys with MP5's be in trouble ? Think a major review of the weapons in use should be underway ? Any one think our adversaries have taken notice ?
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:34:30 PM EDT
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In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Who gives a shit, why dont you send a letter to the white house and secret service and tell them your concerns.
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, Obunghole wasn't even there, nor were the Wookie or their kids. Turning the guy's head into a canoe would probably not have gone over well in the press. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: <snip> So they knew this guy was no threat and thought "lets watch him and see how fast he can make it to the front door". They probably didn't want to take a guy out with a high powered rifle in such a public manner, unless it was a very real serious threat. Probably figured the guys on the ground could handle it. How did that workout ? The President's still alive, so rather well. Actually, Obunghole wasn't even there, nor were the Wookie or their kids. Turning the guy's head into a canoe would probably not have gone over well in the press. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:35:54 PM EDT
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Who gives a shit, why dont you send a letter to the white house and secret service and tell them your concerns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? Who gives a shit, why dont you send a letter to the white house and secret service and tell them your concerns. 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:37:28 PM EDT
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I think this weakness will embolden bad guys that are actual threats. They use those mp5s because of over penetration fears warranted or not. How could you say they aren't warranted? Also, I don't see how this would embolden anyone. It isn't like getting to the front door means he was a second from being in the oval office. More like, he was a second from being perforated. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:38:27 PM EDT
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I like how the OP is concerned about hussain
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:39:34 PM EDT
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I worked at their HQ. They have an armory that would blow GD's mind. ETA Union membership has its privileges. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I worked at their HQ. They have an armory that would blow GD's mind. ETA Union membership has its privileges. [Han Solo] I don't know. I can imagine quite a bit. [/Han Solo] If there's not something more impressive than a handful of Davy Crocketts, directed energy weapons, brain freezing rays, remote viewers in cages for COMINT/ELINT/SIGINT/TINFOILINT/etc., ill-tempered less-than-lethal sea bass, and anything else needed for protection of the POTUS, I would feel a bit ripped off for the use of my tax dollars.
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From the recent fence jump. MP5 goodness. http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/09/20/white-house-security_wide-89e5d3eec3df6d3d223c50f5050d5f4c52eb9e05-s4-c85.jpg http://imgick.gulflive.com/home/gulflive-media/pgmain/img/mississippi-press/photo/2014/09/19/-b48f90c430feaf82.jpg The pokeman jumper. These guys had M4's and mean ass doggy. http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/0JaRKie_PQw/0.jpg Is that Gary Sinise? |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:40:10 PM EDT
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We gonna need a different president for me to care. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? We gonna need a different president for me to care. I cannot fathom this mentality. I do not like President Obama's politics, his policies, his methods, his attitudes, his manner, his attitude, his dang near anything, but he was elected to the office he holds by a majority of the voters of this country. I may hope fervently that he fails at his domestic agenda, and find his foreign agenda deplorable, misguided, and amateurish, but if someone attacks the President with violence, they are attacking far more than just that man. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:41:50 PM EDT
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I expected 10mm MP5s, but nope.
MP5-Fs in 9mm. Sexy firearms. Surprised no optics on the weapons. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:43:06 PM EDT
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I cannot fathom this mentality. I do not like President Obama's politics, his policies, his methods, his attitudes, his manner, his attitude, his dang near anything, but he was elected to the office he holds by a majority of the voters of this country. I may hope fervently that he fails at his domestic agenda, and find his foreign agenda deplorable, misguided, and amateurish, but if someone attacks the President with violence, they are attacking far more than just that man. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes OP, the only weapons the SS has at the WH are MP5s. In the first few minutes, on the ground, that's all I see in pictures. I know they have more somewhere. But this guy proved it only takes around 42 seconds to get over the fence and through the front door. Shouldn't the first line of defense have more than MP5's ? We gonna need a different president for me to care. I cannot fathom this mentality. I do not like President Obama's politics, his policies, his methods, his attitudes, his manner, his attitude, his dang near anything, but he was elected to the office he holds by a majority of the voters of this country. I may hope fervently that he fails at his domestic agenda, and find his foreign agenda deplorable, misguided, and amateurish, but if someone attacks the President with violence, they are attacking far more than just that man. Well said. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:43:35 PM EDT
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In the pictures I have seen of the Secret Service agents at the White House during the incursion this week, I noticed they all had MP5's. If a determined adversary showed up in body armor with AK/AR15's wouldn't the guys with MP5's be in trouble ? ? MP5 in 10mm 
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:43:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How could you say they aren't warranted? Also, I don't see how this would embolden anyone. It isn't like getting to the front door means he was a second from being in the oval office. More like, he was a second from being perforated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think this weakness will embolden bad guys that are actual threats. They use those mp5s because of over penetration fears warranted or not. How could you say they aren't warranted? Also, I don't see how this would embolden anyone. It isn't like getting to the front door means he was a second from being in the oval office. More like, he was a second from being perforated. |
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Posted: 9/21/2014 7:45:13 PM EDT
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How could you say they aren't warranted? Also, I don't see how this would embolden anyone. It isn't like getting to the front door means he was a second from being in the oval office. More like, he was a second from being perforated. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think this weakness will embolden bad guys that are actual threats. They use those mp5s because of over penetration fears warranted or not. How could you say they aren't warranted? Also, I don't see how this would embolden anyone. It isn't like getting to the front door means he was a second from being in the oval office. More like, he was a second from being perforated. Because I don't really care about overpenatration. Mentally ill people don't think like sane people. The story is being told, like its a major lapse in security at the WH, by the main stream media yo. |
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