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Thanks for the help, I think I'll stick with the USP for a while until I decide to have a dedicated comp gun.
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I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). I'd get first in L10 at every match around here. I'd get last too. Usually the older guys shooting it here, quite a few with 1911s 9mm 1911s? |
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It is probably just MidwayUSA's search function that sucks, but I can't find a Blade-Tech dropped and offset holster that would fit a Browning Hi Power.
I was hoping to buy the Blade-Tech DOH and a Colt 9mm AR mag LULA at the same time from MidwayUSA and hopefully save on shipping costs that way. It looks like Blade-Tech has a DOH for a BHP at their website, but I am just not seeing it at Midway's. I haven't bought anything from Midway in a loooonnnnggg time. |
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I have my HK USP .45 (my old USPSA gun), HK VP9, Browning Hi Power 9mm (I need to get a different hammer to cure the hammer bite), or my 1911 as viable candidates. The HK would really only be good to shoot in L10. Limited you're going to take a hit on the capacity and, unless you load some powder puff .45 loads, you might as well get the benefit of major scoring instead of shooting it in Production (which is only scored minor regardless of your actual power factor). VP9 = Production Hi Power... I haven't had one, but I don't remember if they are single action only (Single Stack?) or DA/SA (Production). I'd get first in L10 at every match around here. I'd get last too. Usually the older guys shooting it here, quite a few with 1911s 9mm 1911s? No, they shoot single stack minor. |
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length?
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[#7]
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length? View Quote I am not familiar at all with Sigs. The best place to ask would be on the Brian Enos forums. I am pretty sure they have a separate section for Sigs. |
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length? View Quote Are you dead set on doing Limited? Personally I would just keep things simple and buy a Glock 34 for Production if you're going to buy a new gun, especially if you're eligible for blue label pricing. |
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length? View Quote There are several places that make mag extensions for M&P and Glock to meet the 140mm rule. I use TTI mag extension on my Limited 35 and it will load 20 in the mag of .40 |
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Are you dead set on doing Limited? Personally I would just keep things simple and buy a Glock 34 for Production if you're going to buy a new gun, especially if you're eligible for blue label pricing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length? Are you dead set on doing Limited? Personally I would just keep things simple and buy a Glock 34 for Production if you're going to buy a new gun, especially if you're eligible for blue label pricing. Not that I'm dead set on limited, but I'd like to "run what you brung." Production seems like a misnomer with the 10 round limit. I get it, it allows ban states and non ban states to remain on a level playground. I like the Sigs and HKs. I've shot my USP for 16 years now, and I used to have a P226 in 9mm that I regretably sold to fund another project. I'd only qualify for blue label pricing through the GSSF membership. |
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[#13]
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Finally shot a match with my new gen 4 G17. I love this thing. Made a few mental mistakes (forgot to reload at one point). Currently shooting limited class until I get used to having huge magazine capacity and buy more mags. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPERFQyLC_8 View Quote Good job. Keep it up! |
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Not that I'm dead set on limited, but I'd like to "run what you brung." Production seems like a misnomer with the 10 round limit. I get it, it allows ban states and non ban states to remain on a level playground. I like the Sigs and HKs. I've shot my USP for 16 years now, and I used to have a P226 in 9mm that I regretably sold to fund another project. I'd only qualify for blue label pricing through the GSSF membership. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Ok, I did some more reading, remember I haven't competed in over 10 years. Looks like I'll have to pick up a 40 SW to be "competitive" in limited. In reading the rulebook, max mag length is 5.561 inches. And looking around, I see the Glock 22, and Smith M&P 40 have mag capacities of 15 rounds. The Sig 226 is 13 rounds, but you can buy a mag extension to bump it up to 15 rounds. Does anyone know if the mag extension puts the sig mag over the length? Are you dead set on doing Limited? Personally I would just keep things simple and buy a Glock 34 for Production if you're going to buy a new gun, especially if you're eligible for blue label pricing. Not that I'm dead set on limited, but I'd like to "run what you brung." Production seems like a misnomer with the 10 round limit. I get it, it allows ban states and non ban states to remain on a level playground. I like the Sigs and HKs. I've shot my USP for 16 years now, and I used to have a P226 in 9mm that I regretably sold to fund another project. I'd only qualify for blue label pricing through the GSSF membership. The 10rd limit isn't to allow ban states to compete, although I'm sure it doesn't hurt. It's to prevent 9mm from completely dominating, prevent certain guns to have advantages over others as far as capacity goes (ie 15 vs 17rd or whatever), and to make it more reload-heavy. It's not an issue to worry about at all IMHO. I've actually never seen someone shoot an HK locally. The mag release is going to slow you down and mags tend to get expensive in numbers. Also, most Sigs (mainly metal ones) in my experience have a high bore axis and are slower on followup shots than the competitors. By all means though, feel free to try what you have. If you aren't a USPSA member and just want to dip your feet in the eater again, then use a 9mm or something comfortable and try Limited Minor to get a feel for how matches are run and to see what other people are shooting. Just don't expect to win or anything. |
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The 10rd limit isn't to allow ban states to compete, although I'm sure it doesn't hurt. It's to prevent 9mm from completely dominating, prevent certain guns to have advantages over others as far as capacity goes (ie 15 vs 17rd or whatever), and to make it more reload-heavy. It's not an issue to worry about at all IMHO. I've actually never seen someone shoot an HK locally. The mag release is going to slow you down and mags tend to get expensive in numbers. Also, most Sigs (mainly metal ones) in my experience have a high bore axis and are slower on followup shots than the competitors. By all means though, feel free to try what you have. If you aren't a USPSA member and just want to dip your feet in the eater again, then use a 9mm or something comfortable and try Limited Minor to get a feel for how matches are run and to see what other people are shooting. Just don't expect to win or anything. View Quote I'm not expecting to win anything. Funny about the HK mag release, I sweep the trigger guard with my finger on all my pistols due to my muscle memory from shooting HKs for so long. ETA I'm more questioning my holster selection, are the TT Gunleather OWB/IWB pancake holsters USPSA compliant? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ... 9mm 1911s? No, they shoot single stack minor. In L10? Why not shoot production? Because you can't shoot single action guns in Production. There's a couple guys around here that shoot .45 1911's with 10 round mags in L10. |
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Not that I'm dead set on limited, but I'd like to "run what you brung." Production seems like a misnomer with the 10 round limit. I get it, it allows ban states and non ban states to remain on a level playground. I like the Sigs and HKs. I've shot my USP for 16 years now, and I used to have a P226 in 9mm that I regretably sold to fund another project. I'd only qualify for blue label pricing through the GSSF membership. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Not that I'm dead set on limited, but I'd like to "run what you brung." Production seems like a misnomer with the 10 round limit. I get it, it allows ban states and non ban states to remain on a level playground. I like the Sigs and HKs. I've shot my USP for 16 years now, and I used to have a P226 in 9mm that I regretably sold to fund another project. I'd only qualify for blue label pricing through the GSSF membership. If you want to just "run what you brung" and not spend a lot upfront on gear then you're much better off with Production. I'm not sure if you realize this, but in Production you can use your 15 round mags and just download them to 10, so your VP9 is good to go for Production as is. You could also use your USP and load minor .45 loads if you'd prefer. For Limited you're going to want to get mag extensions at the least and probably some other stuff like a magwell, etc. You could also shoot your 1911 in Single Stack. That holster you mentioned sounds like it would be legal. No one uses pancake type holsters since the preference is for a holster that isn't held close to the body, in order to get a faster draw. Quoted:
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... 9mm 1911s? No, they shoot single stack minor. In L10? Why not shoot production? AJE was saying that he sees people shooting L10 with 1911s, but not 9mm 1911s. They're using either .40 or .45 to shoot major. If you have a 9mm 1911 you're much better off shooting Single Stack since you're already allowed to load 10 in Single Stack when shooting minor. |
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Finished the club match. 75% on the classifier... kinda blew the draw on it or it would have been 85%.
Rest of it went pretty well I think. Video up tonight. |
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Quoted: ETA I'm more questioning my holster selection, are the TT Gunleather OWB/IWB pancake holsters USPSA compliant? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: ETA I'm more questioning my holster selection, are the TT Gunleather OWB/IWB pancake holsters USPSA compliant? That would be just about the worst holster one could use for USPSA. Please do yourself a favor and get a standard OWB kydex rig. |
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Quoted: If you want to just "run what you brung" and not spend a lot upfront on gear then you're much better off with Production. I'm not sure if you realize this, but in Production you can use your 15 round mags and just download them to 10, so your VP9 is good to go for Production as is. You could also use your USP and load minor .45 loads if you'd prefer. For Limited you're going to want to get mag extensions at the least and probably some other stuff like a magwell, etc. You could also shoot your 1911 in Single Stack. That holster you mentioned sounds like it would be legal. No one uses pancake type holsters since the preference is for a holster that isn't held close to the body, in order to get a faster draw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you want to just "run what you brung" and not spend a lot upfront on gear then you're much better off with Production. I'm not sure if you realize this, but in Production you can use your 15 round mags and just download them to 10, so your VP9 is good to go for Production as is. You could also use your USP and load minor .45 loads if you'd prefer. For Limited you're going to want to get mag extensions at the least and probably some other stuff like a magwell, etc. You could also shoot your 1911 in Single Stack. That holster you mentioned sounds like it would be legal. No one uses pancake type holsters since the preference is for a holster that isn't held close to the body, in order to get a faster draw. Russell is right on the money IMO. Your VP9 is perfect for production. |
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Finished the club match. 75% on the classifier... kinda blew the draw on it or it would have been 85%. Rest of it went pretty well I think. Video up tonight. Miamisburg? Yes. There were a couple of IN guys there... hadn't met any of them before. |
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Here's the whole match. Since I know it will be asked, the club ran out of tan pasters, so they had to use black and white ones (other than the classifier). It made the targets on the last couple stages pretty interesting looking, and there was no looking at the targets and trying to see your hits, as it was bad enough while I was RO'ing. Anyway, fun match, and my squad started outside and ended inside, almost missing the rain that came down later in the morning https://youtu.be/4_Gof5hQYq4 View Quote Im looking at a CZ Tactical Sport which sticks me in Limitied I guess. I would have to get by with an HK Expert 9mm for now. I should have kept that G35! I have a Les Baer Premier 2 but I actually prefer the Glock and M&P grip over the 1911 for some odd reason. |
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Im looking at a CZ Tactical Sport which sticks me in Limitied I guess. I would have to get by with an HK Expert 9mm for now. I should have kept that G35! I have a Les Baer Premier 2 but I actually prefer the Glock and M&P grip over the 1911 for some odd reason. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Here's the whole match. Since I know it will be asked, the club ran out of tan pasters, so they had to use black and white ones (other than the classifier). It made the targets on the last couple stages pretty interesting looking, and there was no looking at the targets and trying to see your hits, as it was bad enough while I was RO'ing. Anyway, fun match, and my squad started outside and ended inside, almost missing the rain that came down later in the morning https://youtu.be/4_Gof5hQYq4 Im looking at a CZ Tactical Sport which sticks me in Limitied I guess. I would have to get by with an HK Expert 9mm for now. I should have kept that G35! I have a Les Baer Premier 2 but I actually prefer the Glock and M&P grip over the 1911 for some odd reason. I have built STIs and SV limited guns. And I owned 2 CZ Tactical Sports. IMHO, the CZ is every bit as capable as an STI or SV limited gun. The triggers on my 2 CZs (and 2 others I've worked on) all came from the factory at 2 lbs. Yes - 2 lbs. Once they broke in, they settled at a rock-solid 1.75 lbs. Yes, the guns come from the factory weighing as much as a full-length dust cover STI Edge 5.0. That can be changed. So can the sights, mag well, grips, etc. Yes, the mags need basepads to get to 140mm. But so do STI and SVs. Overall, the CZ is as close as you can come to a fully competitive Limited gun for the money spent. They are as reliable as heck and will run on factory ammo (a claim that many STIs and SVs cant make). |
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Quoted: Here's the whole match. Since I know it will be asked, the club ran out of tan pasters, so they had to use black and white ones (other than the classifier). It made the targets on the last couple stages pretty interesting looking, and there was no looking at the targets and trying to see your hits, as it was bad enough while I was RO'ing. Anyway, fun match, and my squad started outside and ended inside, almost missing the rain that came down later in the morning https://youtu.be/4_Gof5hQYq4 View Quote Nice shooting. The target stand lath is pretty distracting at that club. Lath needs to be trimmed down so it's not visible. Stage 1-Great draw and splits to that partial target and the rest in the array. Sort of a tough call with four arrays of 3 paper targets on how to do your reload. It would be interesting to see what your time would have been if you reloaded after each array. Standing reload vs. extra reload. I'm betting the way you shot it was faster. Stage 2-WTF was that first shot all about? |
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I thought I might have had a Power Pistol load mixed in somehow but after watching the video it looked like the case blew out. I didn't see any damaged brass in what I got back so I probably won't know. Most importantly there was no injury or damage, and a very close second in importance is that it didn't seem to distract me too bad.
Thanks for your comments. I was guessing that saving the reload on stage 1 would have been a wash... watched a couple others shoot it that way. I figured an extra reload was easier to screw up then an extra long transition. |
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Did anyone that threw in the extra reload shoot it faster than you?
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[#33]
Scores aren't out yet, but nobody on my squad was faster than me on it. The weak hand shooting really slowed some of the people down, though, probably moreso than an extra reload would have.
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It's been a while now, how do you like that Tent Trailer? If you reported on it I missed it.
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I missed my match last weekend. Had to spend the weekend researching and collecting salamander data in the mountains.
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View Quote Jeeze. You guys don't have any M's or G's? (Just ball busting) |
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View Quote Congrats! |
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Jeeze. You guys don't have any M's or G's? (Just ball busting) Yep. Congrats AJE! |
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A lot of the Phoenix Trinity people usually shoot here but most of them were out of state. Open GMs are good people to watch https://youtu.be/E-wMDYhQQLk View Quote That can't be too comfortable shooting Open indoors, especially right next to a wall. Although I'm not sure which would be more annoying, the comp or that RO |
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A lot of the Phoenix Trinity people usually shoot here but most of them were out of state. Open GMs are good people to watch https://youtu.be/E-wMDYhQQLk That can't be too comfortable shooting Open indoors, especially right next to a wall. Although I'm not sure which would be more annoying, the comp or that RO RO, for sure. LOL. |
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Got my first 79% classifier yesterday.
Shot gssf today and I feel my performance was meh. Hopefully I still get a gun. |
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Are you a master in GSSF? I have two weeks before my next match... GSSF on Saturday and USPSA on Sunday. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Got my first 79% classifier yesterday. Shot gssf today and I feel my performance was meh. Hopefully I still get a gun. Are you a master in GSSF? I have two weeks before my next match... GSSF on Saturday and USPSA on Sunday. Not yet. I got my first two last year and this is my first gssf this year. I've improved a lot since my last gssf in July 2014. I got 63s in am civ with 3 Ds and a few Cs. |
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You'll get it pretty soon if you're in the low 60's. View Quote I think the 2.5 hour wait between my first 2 stages and the Glock the Plates stage hindered my performance. I left a plate standing on Major Sub and Heavy Metal leaving me with 56 and 72 respectively. Next time, I'm going to "play the game" and sign in on every stage before shooting anything. It's ridiculous. I got to my last stage at 11:15, and I sat there 2.5 hours as tons of people showed up and shot before me. ETA: I got 4 Ds and 5 Cs in Am Civ. If I could just change those Ds to Cs and keep the same speed, I would have had just under 56s. Bryan Dover's Master stock at the 2014 DPC GSSF was 44.57. Getting closer... If I had not left a plate up on Major Sub, I would have had 46.42 which beats Bryan Dover's Major Sub time from the 2014 DPC GSSF. Although he left a plate standing, so he could have actually gotten 38.42. All hope will not be lost when I make master! |
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I usually try to shoot Sunday afternoon. .. it's typically walk up and shoot by then.
Your times sound good, even when you make master you'll still probably win guns. I have won one at every match I shot last year. You don't have to win, but since so many of the guys shoot multiple divisions and are limited to winning one per match, you just have to hang close. I've been practicing my transitions pretty hard so I'm hoping to get in the lower 50s. I bought a 43 thinking I might try the Pocket Glock but I'm leaning more towards staying in the divisions possible for match meister |
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