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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:40:54 PM EDT
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What percentage of drinkers have used alcohol at work. I'd bet the numbers are similar.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:42:09 PM EDT
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some % of stoners have always done that, I'll accept their 10% on faith
it isn't exactly news
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:44:29 PM EDT
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some % of stoners have always done that, I'll accept their 10% on faith it isn't exactly news Well, that depends on the agenda. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:46:52 PM EDT
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5.1% due to pot ... leaving hard drugs like LSD and alcohol for the rest.
Once a year or more or every day? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:47:05 PM EDT
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Whee soon the rest of ya'll will be drug and alcohol tested often too
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:47:27 PM EDT
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Just had a guy claim he got hurt at work so I sent him for the mandatory drug and alcohol test. 3.5 hours into his shift he blew a .187.
If I had a breathalyzer connected to the electronic key entry and everyone had to blow to get in, id probably lose 20% of my workforce daily. 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:49:12 PM EDT
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Yeah and a whole lot of people would catch a dui on the ride into work if the cops weren't so busy in rush hour traffic.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:49:23 PM EDT
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I honestly think it's more than that... it's easier to accept than assuming that 90% of the work force is functionally retarded.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:53:34 PM EDT
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I honestly think it's more than that... it's easier to accept than assuming that 90% of the work force is functionally retarded. Yeah, that has been my experience too. Hell, some days it would be more like 30 or 40 percent. Saw several stoned guys hurt themselves badly on the job….. and put others at risk. I saw way more guys stoned than drunk. In fact, I can only remember a couple of guys that were boozers….. most were stoned. ETA: What really used to make me laugh is those that would say " I do everything better when I'm stoned".
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:53:51 PM EDT
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I took an MSHA safety class about 10 years ago. The instructor said that basically one third of the drivers are under the influence of something at any one time.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:55:07 PM EDT
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What percentage of drinkers have used alcohol at work. I'd bet the numbers are similar. IF it's as you say, "the numbers are similar." Then, we could assume that 20% of our co-workers are high. But, wasn't 10% bad enough? So, it begs the questions of: How much loss productivity does that equate to? And, do you really want to work in that kind of environment? Is it even safe? What should employers do? Being HIGH at work is BAD for business. You wanna smoke or drink alcohol? Do it on your own time. But, come to work ready and sober......to WORK. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:55:57 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt it is only ten percent.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:56:52 PM EDT
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I honestly think it's more than that... it's easier to accept than assuming that 90% of the work force is functionally retarded. 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:58:40 PM EDT
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90% of my class is stoned all day.
They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:58:51 PM EDT
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:59:06 PM EDT
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We have a part time night person who comes in high quite often. What is his day job you might ask? He is a high school history teacher. I tell him to do back stock and let his co-worker handle the register.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:59:50 PM EDT
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and the other 1/2 is zombied on anti-whatever meds
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:00:46 PM EDT
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MARIJUANA NEEDLES!!!!111 MARIJUANA NEEEEEDDDLLLLESSS EVVVVVVEERRRYYYWHERRRREE!!!!11
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:00:51 PM EDT
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:01:45 PM EDT
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some % of stoners have always done that, I'll accept their 10% on faith it isn't exactly news |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:01:52 PM EDT
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90% of my class is stoned all day. They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. Being in class where they take your money is one thing. Working on a job where your work counts is a totally different situation. I know more than a few welders that weld pressure vessels, steam pipes, etc. where their work is constantly checked and one screw up gets you time off….. a couple screw ups gets you out the door. See how your high classmates fair in the real world. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:02:51 PM EDT
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90% of my class is stoned all day. They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. I've known drunks who swore up and down that they drive better when under the influence; since they are habitual users, their opinion doesn't carry much weight. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:04:23 PM EDT
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Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:04:35 PM EDT
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BREAKING:
AUSTIN, TX–Everyone involved in the preparation, delivery, purchase and consumption of a pizza from Tony's New York-Style Pizzeria was thoroughly baked off his ass, it was reported Monday. "From its creation at the hands of a stoned-out-of-his-mind pizzeria employee to its eventual consumption by a group of guys so unbelievably high they didn't even realize they had mistakenly given the delivery driver a $20 tip, this pizza spent its entire existence in a dense cloud of marijuana fumes," said pizza-industry watchdog Roger Dernier, who has been monitoring the link between pizza production and illegal drug use since 1991. "In the brief time this pizza spent on Earth, at no point did it come into contact with a single non-stoned human being." |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:05:47 PM EDT
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I only know one person I'd consider a stoner. She smokes almost every day and frequently goes to work high. And she's a commercial driver.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:11:48 PM EDT
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Being in class where they take your money is one thing. Working on a job where your work counts is a totally different situation. I know more than a few welders that weld pressure vessels, steam pipes, etc. where their work is constantly checked and one screw up gets you time off….. a couple screw ups gets you out the door. See how your high classmates fair in the real world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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90% of my class is stoned all day. They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. Being in class where they take your money is one thing. Working on a job where your work counts is a totally different situation. I know more than a few welders that weld pressure vessels, steam pipes, etc. where their work is constantly checked and one screw up gets you time off….. a couple screw ups gets you out the door. See how your high classmates fair in the real world. I think most of those guys are gonna end up pulling a trigger on a Mig gun on an assembly line somewhere, where everyone else is either still drunk, stoned, running on a belly full of pills - or geeked out on 40oz of RedBull. I worked at a big Fab Shop, making primarily bus chassis (so we had DOT inspections) - that was the way it was there. My lead, STANK of booze, fucking permeating - reliable as can be (I would watch him pound a few 22oz in the parking lot before he went home) & a solid 'production' welder. I've always thought it was curious how we allow people to go crazy on stimulants, couple of 5 hour energys, chased with some monster - and not consider them impared. That shit jacks me up. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:14:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/07/14/are-pot-smokers-suddenly-employable-in-washington/ |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:14:29 PM EDT
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I think most of those guys are gonna end up pulling a trigger on a Mig gun on an assembly line somewhere, where everyone else is either still drunk, stoned, running on a belly full of pills - or geeked out on 40oz of RedBull. I worked at a big Fab Shop, making primarily bus chassis (so we had DOT inspections) - that was the way it was there. My lead, STANK of booze, fucking permeating - reliable as can be (I would watch him pound a few 22oz in the parking lot before he went home) & a solid 'production' welder. I've always thought it was curious how we allow people to go crazy on stimulants, couple of 5 hour energys, chased with some monster - and not consider them impared. That shit jacks me up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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90% of my class is stoned all day. They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. Being in class where they take your money is one thing. Working on a job where your work counts is a totally different situation. I know more than a few welders that weld pressure vessels, steam pipes, etc. where their work is constantly checked and one screw up gets you time off….. a couple screw ups gets you out the door. See how your high classmates fair in the real world. I think most of those guys are gonna end up pulling a trigger on a Mig gun on an assembly line somewhere, where everyone else is either still drunk, stoned, running on a belly full of pills - or geeked out on 40oz of RedBull. I worked at a big Fab Shop, making primarily bus chassis (so we had DOT inspections) - that was the way it was there. My lead, STANK of booze, fucking permeating - reliable as can be (I would watch him pound a few 22oz in the parking lot before he went home) & a solid 'production' welder. I've always thought it was curious how we allow people to go crazy on stimulants, couple of 5 hour energys, chased with some monster - and not consider them impared. That shit jacks me up. If you drink it enough I personally think you can build up a tolerance to it. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:19:49 PM EDT
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When I worked at a movie theater after high school, half the staff would come in high. The manager would openly talk about what amphetamines she was using to only sleep an hour or two a night.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:20:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5 hour energys I buy that stuff by the case.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:21:27 PM EDT
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I only know one person I'd consider a stoner. She smokes almost every day and frequently goes to work high. And she's a commercial driver. No random piss tests for her? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:21:58 PM EDT
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/07/14/are-pot-smokers-suddenly-employable-in-washington/ They can hire someone who flunks a piss test if they want to, that's fine. When someone comes into work stoned and cuts their finger off on a milling machine, runs a forklift into a pull down door and injures several people on the other side, damages machine tools and has "accidents" while obviously stoned, employers will decide wether to eat the damage or do what is necessary to protect their bottom lines. It's just business. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:22:17 PM EDT
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Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. Please post the detrimental "affects" |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:22:39 PM EDT
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What percentage of drinkers have used alcohol at work. I'd bet the numbers are similar. I bet they are higher |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:24:50 PM EDT
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The data analyzed the marijuana and prescription drug habits of 534 Americans. What's more, nearly 81 percent said they scored their cannabis illegally, according to the survey. Very impressive sampling. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:25:11 PM EDT
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Damn stoners. ..
Damn executives and their 3 martini lunches. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:25:30 PM EDT
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What percentage of drinkers have used alcohol at work. I'd bet the numbers are similar. I bet they are higher No, drunks were most common to previous generations…… older dudes. All the drinkers I knew were older guys. The younger workers prefer drugs… by far. As the older guys retire, you see fewer and fewer drinkers and more druggies. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:25:39 PM EDT
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Guy at work can't talk about anything without talking about legalizing pot. He just became a preacher and I assume his sermons are going to be about legalizing pot. I don't care either way. He gets mad when I tell him it doesn't matter what the law says he's not going to smoke pot and keep his job, period. There's a reason we get tested often. I also got a little upset because he's supposed to be a man of god now that when they diagnosed me with MS the only thing he could talk about and the first thing out of his mouth was "Well GOOD, now you can get medical marijuana as soon as they pass it here", yeah some trade off.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:28:07 PM EDT
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The data analyzed the marijuana and prescription drug habits of 534 Americans. What's more, nearly 81 percent said they scored their cannabis illegally, according to the survey. That right there is the problem. We need to make drugs double-dog illegal. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:28:13 PM EDT
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. Please post the detrimental "affects" Go google it or do a search here. There were a couple of threads on the "unintended consequences" of legalization. OR, just believe that it's all a bunch of crap and it's a good thing to work and drive stoned…… that's easier. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:28:15 PM EDT
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Damn stoners. .. Damn executives and their 3 martini lunches. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's good to be the boss. 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:30:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No random piss tests for her? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I only know one person I'd consider a stoner. She smokes almost every day and frequently goes to work high. And she's a commercial driver. No random piss tests for her? I guess not. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I only know one person I'd consider a stoner. She smokes almost every day and frequently goes to work high. And she's a commercial driver. No random piss tests for her? I guess not. EIGHTEEN WHEELER MARIJUANA DEATH MACHEEEENEESSSSSS |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:32:56 PM EDT
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No, drunks were most common to previous generations…… older dudes. All the drinkers I knew were older guys. The younger workers prefer drugs… by far. As the older guys retire, you see fewer and fewer drinkers and more druggies. 
I'm pretty sure there are still a boatload of kids who drink like it's a sport and go into work drunk, and I'm pretty sure drugs have been a problem for much longer than just this generation. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:34:30 PM EDT
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If you drink it enough I personally think you can build up a tolerance to it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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90% of my class is stoned all day. They smoke, 24/7. They all got their welding certs, right after a fresh smoke. If anything, they say it helps them focus. Here in Wa many places no longer have THC on their urine test panels. Further more, the use of mouth swabs - which give a couple hours back of a reading, are more & more common. Being in class where they take your money is one thing. Working on a job where your work counts is a totally different situation. I know more than a few welders that weld pressure vessels, steam pipes, etc. where their work is constantly checked and one screw up gets you time off….. a couple screw ups gets you out the door. See how your high classmates fair in the real world. I think most of those guys are gonna end up pulling a trigger on a Mig gun on an assembly line somewhere, where everyone else is either still drunk, stoned, running on a belly full of pills - or geeked out on 40oz of RedBull. I worked at a big Fab Shop, making primarily bus chassis (so we had DOT inspections) - that was the way it was there. My lead, STANK of booze, fucking permeating - reliable as can be (I would watch him pound a few 22oz in the parking lot before he went home) & a solid 'production' welder. I've always thought it was curious how we allow people to go crazy on stimulants, couple of 5 hour energys, chased with some monster - and not consider them impared. That shit jacks me up. If you drink it enough I personally think you can build up a tolerance to it. Just like with anything. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:35:53 PM EDT
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I only know one person I'd consider a stoner. She smokes almost every day and frequently goes to work high. And she's a commercial driver. No random piss tests for her? Freedom, scary huh. 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:36:46 PM EDT
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After all the theorizing and handwringing over Legalization, now I'm just sitting back and waiting to see what happens.
I sometimes think I'm the only person in California who hasn't smoked pot. It's not true, but that's how it feels. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:36:54 PM EDT
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MARIJUANA NEEDLES!!!!111 MARIJUANA NEEEEEDDDLLLLESSS EVVVVVVEERRRYYYWHERRRREE!!!!11 |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:36:56 PM EDT
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Not buying it. Drugs are illegal. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 2:38:08 PM EDT
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They can hire someone who flunks a piss test if they want to, that's fine. When someone comes into work stoned and cuts their finger off on a milling machine, runs a forklift into a pull down door and injures several people on the other side, damages machine tools and has "accidents" while obviously stoned, employers will decide wether to eat the damage or do what is necessary to protect their bottom lines. It's just business. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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States that are legalizing that shit are going to be in for a rude awaking ….. well, I guess they already are having trouble. Just imagine if states banned alcohol, NOBODY would EVER show up to work drunk. Yeah, whatever. Argue all you want and curse reality. Fact is, states that have legalized pot are already seeing the detrimental affects. You can make your comparisons all you want….. reality bites. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2014/07/14/are-pot-smokers-suddenly-employable-in-washington/ They can hire someone who flunks a piss test if they want to, that's fine. When someone comes into work stoned and cuts their finger off on a milling machine, runs a forklift into a pull down door and injures several people on the other side, damages machine tools and has "accidents" while obviously stoned, employers will decide wether to eat the damage or do what is necessary to protect their bottom lines. It's just business. Your describing drunks - in my experience. It's not a question of flunking a pee test, when they don't test for it in the first place. If they are shitty, dangerous employees - fire them. But don't dare mandate what I do at home. Your not paying me & it's none of your business. Be that politics, sexual orientation, or personal habits. |
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