I was the third brother of five
Doing whatever I had to do to survive
I'm not saying what I did was alright
Trying to break out of the ghetto was a day to day fight...

when did you leave Ohio?

worst possible thing that can happen to a human being other than prison imo

My condolences.

It's horrible.  You can't just decide to have "Asian" food.  You have to pick between several nationalities, and then individual restaurants.

Live in Hollywood, grew up in the burbs. Love the city life, everything is walking distance or a short Uber ride away. Like anything it has its ups ands downs, you get used to the traffic and bums.

I grew up in Detroit moved to the subs in the 70's short stint in the city life after the service. Rural life has been my mode of operation and keeper of sanity for many years. I have recently moved back to the city (a small one) the occasional siren still irritates me.
Still piss outside when I want to though.

"It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others"

 

I love living in the city.

I keep seeing all this crap about restaurants to eat at.

So fucking what, If i want korean ill cook it if i want japanese i cook it if i want german ill cook it .
Don't any of you fuck even know how to cook your own dinner?

Yes it is.  I've been going there regularly for work for many years and I love it.  Briefly. And I get great digs when I am there. But I am usually there for a week or less at a time.

And only because I am used to Manhattan can I like it on short terms.

But I think it is true what they say...I love to visit but wouldn't want to live there.

All other cities try to produce what Manhattan does (or can do) but all of them have MAJOR downsides ...let's take trendy Portland for example



Yeah... that doesn't happen where I live and if you are paying through the nose for single flat just to live there ...so you can walk to restaurants, plays and parks....this is what you'll see. Do you really want that?

I doubt it.

I understand it it if you are young and want to experience it. I really do.  But in the end I feel much different than younger people do about living in any city.  My neighborhood is pretty rural but we are still close to all of those things if we want to go.

It's in your moves...  

It's in your blood...

Your a man of the streets.

I live in Dallas, Texas. Moved here in February; I have a five mile commute to work, a ten dollar uber ride to the bars in uptown, and tens of thousands of good looking women close to my own age (I'm 25 and single). I have a cross fit gym a mile away, and all the good restaurants you can imagine. I LOVE it.

Before this I lived in Midland, Texas. Rent made Dallas look cheap, there were no women, nothing to do, and to go anywhere else I had to drive at least five hours. There was an awesome shooting range there, but that was about it. If I want to get away for the weekend I just go to my deer lease or to one of my friend's ranches. Besides, I think most people are too busy with work for outdoor recreational activities during the work week anyway.

Sure, if I was married I would prefer to live in a rural area. But for a single young guy, give me the city every time.

I've lived in downtown San Francisco for eight years and counting. I enjoy living here because it has a lot to offer, although I'm sure everyone is already aware of the downsides.

Benefits:
-Downtown SF, while far from perfect, is relatively clean (compared to the stereotypical "urban area").
-Everything is close together. I have a 20 minute commute to work on foot, so I never have to deal with traffic. You can text a friend to meet up for beers after work, and it's just a five minute detour on foot for both of you.
-There's something about walking to work every day among tall buildings that makes you feel like you've made something of yourself. It never really gets old.
-Weekend downtown traffic is usually negligible, since not a lot of people live here, and the ones who do don't really drive much. (The one exception is when the Giants are playing, since I live near the stadium, and the home games create a lot of traffic. I just try to avoid driving during those times.)
-There are more bars and restaurants than you can count, and they are opening/closing faster than I can try them. Every imaginable cuisine is available. Every beverage you can think of can be found, either at a bar or at retail.
-When going out, you can walk there, or you can take the subway, or the bus, or a taxi, or one of the rideshare services (e.g., uber, lyft, sidecar). You never have to worry about driving drunk or finding a designated driver.
-I can leave my apartment, walk half a block, and see the bay and the bridge. I can hop in the car, drive 30 minutes, and be hiking in the wilderness. I can take the trolley to the waterfront and go salmon fishing. There are actually several shooting ranges within an hour's drive as well.
-SF is the center of the tech/app economy. I can order a pack of spaghetti from Google and it will be delivered that night in time for dinner.
-The airport is very accessible (30 mins on the subway), and there are relatively cheap flights to anywhere in the world, with few or no connections needed.

Drawbacks:
-Cities are fairly left-wing. SF is an extreme example of this. You are "behind enemy lines," in a sense. Gun ownership is generally tolerated among most professionals, but not so much in the broader population.
-Housing costs are nuts. Dwellings are also very small. SF is probably also an extreme example of this. I pay ~$2,300/mo for a 460 sq ft studio.
-Between the weekday traffic, the taxis starting/stopping, the buses, the cyclists, the pedestrians, the lack of parking, etc., driving can sometimes be a nightmare. For this reason, most of the people who live here do not drive in the city. As a result, most of the people who ARE driving are lost, since they aren't from here and don't know which streets are one-way, etc.
-Parking is expensive and scarce, although, of course, it's less necessary since there are other ways to get around.
-I don't have any kids, but if I did, I wouldn't raise them in the city. Most of the public schools are no good, the private ones are pricey, and there are no other kids to play with and very few parks to play in.
-The city can be noisy.
-You have to learn to get along with all kinds of people. There are street fairs full of naked men in leather. There are monthly bicycle rides where thousands of cyclists block traffic for hours to assert their "right to cycle." Groups like this that would probably be beaten or shot in a red state are accepted here.

What are these apartments everyone keeps talking about.












 
 
 



 

I'd offer you a cookie, but you can just bake one yourself.

 

I cook dinner probably 5-6 days out of the week, so I'm more than capable of cooking my own dinner. But at least I can choose to go to a place where actual [fill in the blank] people make their own cuisine. It's also a great excuse for dates or just to spend time with friends (e.g., "let's go try the ____ place").

It's there if you want it. You don't have to take it.

Furthermore, I've realized that there are several food items that are not cost-effective to make at home. For instance, I could make a blackberry pie from scratch, and I do sometimes, but I have to buy five packs of blackberries and a pound of butter in order to do it (~$20), and then spend an hour or two making it, whereas I could just go buy one for $8. Or I could spend an entire day making pork stock and kneading my own authentic ramen noodles out of eggs and kansui (special alkaline water I'd have to order online), or I can go to a specialty restaurant and order a bowl for $8.

ever thought about what it would be like to have your own lake in your own yard that you can fish in and your own me park (not state not federal) that you can ride your own horses and bikes in? I mean your rules and your rules only every single day? Is a new trendy bar that may not be there tomorrow better than that?

I grew up in the suburbs and went to college in similar settings.  After college I got my job in the same suburbs I grew up in.

In my late 20s I broke out of my bubble and moved to San Francisco.  Lived in one of the nicest parts of town (Pacific Heights).

During that time, I was never more than a short walk from the best restaurants, bands, clubs, and entertainment that the world had to offer.  I had a new Corvette and Harley that rarely moved.  I dated the most beautiful, professional women a homely man like myself could hope for (I dumped a surgeon for a lawyer...maybe should have kept the surgeon).  

It would have been tough without a good job.  But my advice to any young person is to live in the biggest city you can afford.  It will make you a better person.  

I moved out too soon.  I've wanted to get back ever since.

You have your whole life to live in the suburbs or the country.  The big city is for young single people.  Worry about guns and politics when you're old.  Live your life now.

I grew up in a Texas country town, spent 4 1/2 yrs in college, 9 years in the Air Force, and 27 years in Dallas so that I could afford to do what my parents told me I would wind up doing if i didn't settle down and apply myself. Cities suck! Now I'm 1.5 miles from the nearest neighbor, 35 miles from the grocery store, and 35 ft. from heaven.

I'm 59. Spent most of the first half of my life in a rural setting. Walk out the back door and shoot anything but a high-powered rifle, or,  walk aqnother 1/4 mile and shoot ANYTHING.........

Worked and traipsed all over........ I think about  42 states........ Currently reside in L.A. county..........

The animals around these parts are dumber than shit.  Mostly 'cause they've never been hunted compared to say ....whitetails in Va.  

One of, if not the, wariest of animals in the world......

One other example........Crows.  Back in Va. those fuckers could tell the difference between a scoped high powered rifle...... and a shotgun....

Here you shoot'em  with any decent .177 caliber pellet rifle and they keep comin' till you get tired of shooting the fucks........

So I've heard......

Point being........stay rural if possible...... unless you like  shootin.....

....... 'dumbass crows.....


ETA:  "Bud Ice"... fueled.

It's wonderful. Bike or walk or side the train to do just about anything that interests me. Neighbors and friends close by. Both of my children live within a couple of miles. Walk to work.

If I want to go shooting it's a 20 minute drive out of town to the gun club.

Beach is a 30 minute drive.

There is always a festival or event to go to.

All the sports venues are just a couple of minutes away.

Edit to add: I live in Houston.

 














 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 

 

What is "ZWE" ....a new suburb.......I don't think I've been to ZWE Texas......

I never thought I'd live here, but I really love it. My preconceived ideas of what it would be like (full of jerks, annoying, no privacy, etc) were largely wrong. For example, I don't think I'll ever have this much privacy again because I'm totally anonymous. In a city of millions, nobody cares who you are.  In a town of thousands, everybody knows too much about each other.

 

You would probably think so. You'd probably hate it as much as I'd hate living on a farm, out in the sticks.

Living in Manhattan is awesome.

well said

City of 10k to 50k, or city over a million?   If over 1 million live in the burbs, it is the only way to keep sanity.

It's like camping at a state park.

 

It's fine if you are young and or rich. I lived near the dead center of a small city for 30+ years and it was survivable... Two neighbors murdered, one shooting, one armed robbery all on a block of 20 houses. Fights for parking space and no convenient public transportation.

Now I live in a nice house in the best neighborhood in the county. I'm 3 miles from nothing and 4 miles from everything. Traffic is only bad on summer weekends when all the people who hate the city they live in come up here to fuck up our area.

Note that not all cities are the same, Virginia Beach is way different than Philly and NYC is unique. Personally, I will NEVER be happy in a city until I win the powerball.

I graduated with a class of 32 people, one school in the town. It takes about 35 minutes just to get to an on ramp for a highway. Town population is between 2-3k.

I love it out here, it's peaceful and people leave you alone, but being so far from money is annoying, I do a lot of driving just to make a living, and there is no work to be had in town since they don't have any money and have no idea of the actual cost of things for the most part.

I've lived in small towns, big cities, and the middle of fucking nowhere.    

Cities are a nice place to visit.  I'm about 3 miles from my closest neighbor and 90 miles from a city.  That's about right for me.  

That is probably a valid comparison.

I guess it's always greener on the other side, I have a friend coming to stay for the weekend and the first thing he asked was if we could have a fire in the bbq pit out back while he was here. I guess I take for granted the fact that I can just traipse out back, light a fire with wood from our property and have a good time just hanging out or shooting the pellet gun at cans.

I have traveled around a lot and lived in some different places.   And I love living in the city.

I spent a significant amount of time growing up an working on my grandparents farm, I've lived in the country, lived in the suburbs, but I love the city.

Right now I live on the near north side of Indy in the midtown neighborhood, which is an interesting mix of working class scumbags like me and young middle-class professionals.

On the weekend I rarely drive. I can walk to some great bars, or the grocery stores, or breweries, or tasting rooms, or record shops, etc

It fits my lifestyle and I love the architecture.  The only downside is that I have to drive 40 min to go to shoot.

Some day I will trade it all in for a spread in the country, where I have to drive 20 minutes to do anything but don't have to deal with neighbors

I live in a ranch style house in a savannah suburb. It's about 2 miles to work. Not far to get groceries. I have a productive garden most years and a couple of chickens.

At one time I lived 16 miles from anything (before this area was built up) in a nearby low country area. It was the worst time of my life. I was surrounded by "natives" and I mean this in the strictest sense. It was like living in a third world country and the only time I had to shoot at people.

I dont really go anywhere where I'm at now, when I'm able I go to Beaufort or walterboro. Still the neighbors are nice, I can't complain much.

I would rather live in a small town but I like the job opportunities where I'm at. I hope to move when I retire.

A lot of people have boats and fish around here. I like camping and hiking, there isn't much of that. There is kayaking though. Mostly there are a lot of bars and drinking which appeals to the young.

I think the character of an area is more important than if it is rural or not. The friends I know that live in rural areas put up with a lot more crap than I do. It's far from a utopia.

I've lived in larger cities at one time or another. I've lived in ft lauderdale fla and Columbia sc.

My favorite place I've lived was greenville Alabama. That was in the 70's. At close to a utopia as I have ever come. :)

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Living in and around cities is pretty awesome.



I suppose it would suck if you hated nightlife, music, bars, people, making friends, museums, culture things like that.

I lived in the country from birth to 21, now living on the outskirts of a small city.

I miss the peace & quiet, ambulances drive by my house regularly, but apart from that I love it.
Closer to the range to go shooting than were I lived before, easy to get to work each day, even driving in to work isn't too bad. Getting home can take a while sometimes.

Having the option of food being delivered straight to my door is great too!

I'm not much of a drinker, but if I do go out with friends I don't have to worry about parking/taxi or accommodation for the night.

I live way out in the sticks. That will be the way it remains. I`ve been all over the world from Alaska to Bejing to Amsterdam to Chile to Manhattan. Cities are dirty and foul at best. My place is clean at worst.

Every moment I live here is another moment of agony.

It's like being pinned under a boulder in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness and knowing that no matter how loudly you scream, no one will ever hear you. Then, at night, the wolves come...

Cities suck donkey dick.

ROFL.... OMG reading some of the tales of woe of "tuuurible city life" is freaking hilarious.





Maybe Seattle is a statistical outlier... but I have a hell of a lot of fun every time I go downtown.  Hell, I had a ton of fun in San Diego too...  really, any city I've been to or lived in.





I really wonder what some of you guys are doing wrong.

I'm with this guy.


The city life is awesome.


Yea my neighbors on one side are crazy as hell, and  traffic and parking can be a pain, but that's what my bikes and feet are for. People are cool around here, there are restaurants and bars and businesses filled with locals and a serious sense of community.  

People say hi, and are friendly, but don't want to get involved. No hoa, no nosey neighbors just people trying to get by.

Ok............let me put it more clearly than my previous post.................

Cities can sniff my crotch fruit after I have been working outside all day in the hot sun.

See the slick con man thread for your answer.

Shit............that's one of your better cities.

My guess would be personality difference.   Night life of the city is alluring to some, while looking at the stars is alluring to others.  

In my youth i had more fun at bonfires then i did at night clubs.