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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:30:31 AM EDT
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Democrats tell people that voting third party is a vote for Republicans. Republicans tell people that voting third party is a vote for Democrats. Two sides of the same coin. Don't forget that every single law in this country was passed by both Democrats and Republicans working together. The Affordable Care Act, AKA "Obamacre", the most destructive legislation to be enacted in generations, was entirely the work of your Democratic Party and the Republican Party had absolutely no hand in it. If your Democratic Party had absolute control of government, gun ownership would no longer be legal in this country; Republicans thwarted the recent Democratic push for gun control. I'm tired of all the bullshit and I'm tired of all the Mobies that infest this place these days. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:31:36 AM EDT
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La la land is a nice place for generalities and glowing statements about purity, and voting only for pure conservative candidates.
Reality is a much, much harsher place. Folks who like to sit on the sidelines watching the world go by... And bask in their pretend moral superiority... Those folks will say, "Republicans are just as much to blame as Democrats." Then sit at home in their moral superiority on neighborhood caucus day. Those folks will say, "The Republicans didn't get a perfect absolutely purist conservative on the ballot, so I am going to split the ticket." And a liberal Democrat wins. The truth... Democrats are totally-united behind socialism. And Republicans are splintered behind big-business corporatists, bent on protecting big-business. The moral right. And liberty-minded folks who see the danger in the Democrat Party. Those three groups see things vastly different. To the advantage of Democrats. Then add-in that libertarians see evil in *both* parties... The Republican agenda is pro-gun, but pro-war-on-drugs also. The Democrat agenda is hardcore anti-gun, but encouraging to drug use and abuse. A "libertarian" is serious in saying that they see evil in *both* parties... And much of the damage that so-called libertarians inflict is in challenging the Republican Party... Part of the splinter in the Republican Party is liberty-minded folks. Libertarians think that since a third of the Republican Party agrees ~mostly with libertarians, then libertarians can find fertile ground in the Republican Party... Libertarians claim that they don't-like *both* parties... But the last time there was a National convention, libertarians disrupted the Republican convention... Wait a week for the Democrat convention... Nothing. Just cheering throngs for Obama. So... Next time a libertarian says, "We see evil in both parties." Think about the last National conventions... They are probably telling the truth that they see evil in both. But they only see *one* party as having *any* potential in changing... |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:33:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:33:16 AM EDT
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There is no difference between the R and the D; at the end of the day we still spend too much money and loose freedoms. Believing there is a difference in this day and age is akin to beveling in Santa clause. Believing that R's will save us is delusional. Turn off your TV and think for yourselves. ETA: in before "the most important vote of our lifetimes". 
Nothing like being lectured by a self-described "libertarian", telling us to "think for yourselves". 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:33:25 AM EDT
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Instead of perpetuating a broken system, perhaps all the Rs should vote L instead.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:33:33 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:38:02 AM EDT
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Instead of perpetuating a broken system, perhaps all the Rs should vote L. Yea, this guy would have fixed it... 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:38:46 AM EDT
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Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. And here we go again with the party loyalists attempting to smear people capable of thinking beyond a single election. Hint: braindead insults like "you disagree so you must like the other guy" only accelerate the ideological, and practical, decay of your own little team. If you want to win, start trying to attract voters, instead of trying to push them into the competition's lap. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:39:04 AM EDT
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Yea, this guy would have fixed it... http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/GFJ_zpsbd61551e.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Instead of perpetuating a broken system, perhaps all the Rs should vote L. Yea, this guy would have fixed it... http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/GFJ_zpsbd61551e.jpg Yup, I was obviously referring to voting for ONE person in particular. Just one. You got me.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:39:20 AM EDT
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I am pretty independent . Voting for lesser of 2 evils is why we are here today .I will sit home before voting for a bad republican
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:40:18 AM EDT
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And here we go again with the party loyalists attempting to smear people capable of thinking beyond a single election. Hint: braindead insults like "you disagree so you must like the other guy" only accelerate the ideological, and practical, decay of your own little team. If you want to win, start trying to attract voters, instead of trying to push them into the competition's lap. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. And here we go again with the party loyalists attempting to smear people capable of thinking beyond a single election. Hint: braindead insults like "you disagree so you must like the other guy" only accelerate the ideological, and practical, decay of your own little team. If you want to win, start trying to attract voters, instead of trying to push them into the competition's lap. Well, I'm not a Republican, so what did you just do? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:41:50 AM EDT
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I'm not seeing that inference. This libertarian held his nose and voted R in 2008 and 2012. A lot of good that did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. Perhaps it's because Obama was elected twice. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:41:52 AM EDT
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I am going to vote Republican. I'm also going to bitch about it.
 I am ashamed to say I voted for John McCain twice.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:41:53 AM EDT
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Yea, this guy would have fixed it... http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/GFJ_zpsbd61551e.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Instead of perpetuating a broken system, perhaps all the Rs should vote L. Yea, this guy would have fixed it... http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/GFJ_zpsbd61551e.jpg That libertarian is a pothead. But I repeat myself. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:42:38 AM EDT
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What difference at this point does it make? exactly Note voting "R" simply due to the fear of "D" If it was that bad...why are we not seeing a wealth of conservative "R's" rising to take over positions from the D's? they are one and the same people....... I will stick with Libertarian cadidates now |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:42:47 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Lord knows I never have. I've been voting against people since I was 18. I dream of one day voting FOR a candidate instead of merely voting to keep the other out of office. Where is my generation's JFK or Reagan? You know, someone we can actually love and support!? Instead I get stuck with GWB, McCain, and Romney! 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:44:18 AM EDT
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I am pretty independent . Voting for lesser of 2 evils is why we are here today .I will sit home before voting for a bad republican Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile So considering that Obama won both elections, who should you have voted for in 2008 and 2012 that would have changed where we are today? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:44:33 AM EDT
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No way am I going to vote for Democrat Light.
When the friggin Republican Party grows a pair and start actually implementing Conservative principles then they will get my vote but as long as they continue being a party of big government then forget it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:46:16 AM EDT
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Perhaps it's because Obama was elected twice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. Perhaps it's because Obama was elected twice. Vote R, receive D. That's the Republican sales pitch. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:48:17 AM EDT
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In before the shitstorm... but I agree... Better to have an R in there than a D, and if you vote L, you're probably gonna end up with a D. Why don't all the Rs vote for the Ls? Why must it always be the other way around? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:48:46 AM EDT
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Oh, it's this thread again
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:49:24 AM EDT
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Yup, I was obviously referring to voting for ONE person in particular. Just one. You got me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Instead of perpetuating a broken system, perhaps all the Rs should vote L. Yea, this guy would have fixed it... http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/Gunny1812/GFJ_zpsbd61551e.jpg Yup, I was obviously referring to voting for ONE person in particular. Just one. You got me. I haven't seen one "libertarian" candidate that didn't have his head up his ass. They ALL suck. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:50:47 AM EDT
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Vote R, receive D. That's the Republican sales pitch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting to see the liberaltarian inference here, over and over, that Obama was the lesser of two evils on 2012. Shows their true colors. Perhaps it's because Obama was elected twice. Vote R, receive D. That's the Republican sales pitch. That's doublespeak. Vote D get Obamacare, unprotected borders, ISIS and gun control and socialism. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:51:10 AM EDT
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Lord knows I never have. I've been voting against people since I was 18. I dream of one day voting FOR a candidate instead of merely voting to keep the other out of office. Where is my generation's JFK or Reagan? You know, someone we can actually love and support!? Instead I get stuck with GWB, McCain, and Romney! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Lord knows I never have. I've been voting against people since I was 18. I dream of one day voting FOR a candidate instead of merely voting to keep the other out of office. Where is my generation's JFK or Reagan? You know, someone we can actually love and support!? Instead I get stuck with GWB, McCain, and Romney! Rand Paul or Ted Cruz? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:51:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: ... Unfortunately, a vote for a Libertarian candidate in November is essentially a vote for the Democrats. I hate for establishment Republicans to remain seated, or gain more seats, but it's better than the alternative for now. ... Fuck that, and I'll tell you why. You are no better than the Dems with that attitude. Lifelong republican here, and I will tell you I will never vote for a republican again unless there are radical changes in the party. Watching them piss away their position and base has been entertaining to say the least - and they think just like you do! It's always about winning isn't it, never about principle or values? You will never get rid of those "almost as crooked as Democrats" Republicans until you stand the fuck up and vote for the right person regardless of party affiliation. You've already lost and you don't even see it yet, because a lot of people think like you. In what rational world can you possibly advocate voting for an individual who does not represent what you believe either in word or in action? The fact that you are willing to do this is how "he" won. Molon Labe |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:51:44 AM EDT
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No way am I going to vote for Democrat Light. When the friggin Republican Party grows a pair and start actually implementing Conservative principles then they will get my vote but as long as they continue being a party of big government then forget it. When you look at the compromises *Reagan* made when he was President (and Governor) it was usually because Democrats were pushing for something much, much worse. The truth... Conservatives just do not have the numbers to accomplish much of anything. ~50% of the voting population is receiving some sort of government handouts? Romney tried calling-out the47% in the election... And ***LIBERTARIANS*** castigated him... The truth... You can live in la-la land while all your freedoms (you pretend give you moral superiority) fade away, and dissolve away around you... And your smugness and pride won't allow you to see the growing number of government dependents who vote... And vote straight-party Democrat. You are *never* going to see a resurgence of conservativism. We can hold back the tide... Demographic reality is demographic reality... |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:51:45 AM EDT
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I think that's what the liberaltarians really want anyway. And legalized weed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. . . if you vote L, you're probably gonna end up with a D. I think that's what the liberaltarians really want anyway. And legalized weed. You couldn't be more wrong. I thing what we'd like most of all is less Bible thumping from our elected officials. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:53:40 AM EDT
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You couldn't be more wrong. I thing what we'd like most of all is less Bible thumping from our elected officials. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. . . if you vote L, you're probably gonna end up with a D. I think that's what the liberaltarians really want anyway. And legalized weed. You couldn't be more wrong. I thing what we'd like most of all is less Bible thumping from our elected officials. Well considerimg our overall decline, that's certainly the most important issue facing this country.................................not really.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:53:47 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Then what are you all crying about?
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:54:54 AM EDT
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give me someone worth voting for and then we'll talk. I see very few genuine pro-freedom types in the Republican ranks. If you insist on running puritanical jackasses, then count me out. This |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:55:01 AM EDT
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+1 You're pounding a tired drum, OP. Libertarians are scant in number until the GOP loses, then the libertarian vote is the reason you lost. Fix your fucked up ship before asking people to board it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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give me someone worth voting for and then we'll talk. I see very few genuine pro-freedom types in the Republican ranks. If you insist on running puritanical jackasses, then count me out. +1 You're pounding a tired drum, OP. Libertarians are scant in number until the GOP loses, then the libertarian vote is the reason you lost. Fix your fucked up ship before asking people to board it. These two posts. /Thread. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:56:35 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Then what are you all crying about? I'm not...........I am trying to help the "R's" out. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:56:37 AM EDT
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You've made the assumption that I'm not a Libertarian myself. I look forward to the day that I CAN freely vote for a Libertarian candidate of my choice, but for the time being, their (our) reputation isn't proven yet on any level. At this point, anything "promised" by some great Libertarian minds is simply lip service. There's no track record to run on yet. They (we) need to start fixing local communities on a municipal and city level and then aim for state-level positions. Until that happens, you're going to end up with a powerful amount of votes that could make or break our country going in vain to a third party. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never voted for a libertarian candidate before, but why do you, and so many republicans think they're entitled to the votes of libertarians? If the libertarians were republicans, they would be republicans, they are libertarians for a reason, they do not agree with the policies of the republican party, what makes you think you can tell people to vote for something they disagree with? I don't understand the sense of entitlement republicans have about libertarian votes... You've made the assumption that I'm not a Libertarian myself. I look forward to the day that I CAN freely vote for a Libertarian candidate of my choice, but for the time being, their (our) reputation isn't proven yet on any level. At this point, anything "promised" by some great Libertarian minds is simply lip service. There's no track record to run on yet. They (we) need to start fixing local communities on a municipal and city level and then aim for state-level positions. Until that happens, you're going to end up with a powerful amount of votes that could make or break our country going in vain to a third party. If you are not a libertarian in practice (i.e. voting for libertarian candidates, building the libertarian party, constructing a base etc) then your claims to be a libertarians are entirely hollow. You're on here shilling for another party, and saying you're going to try and put that party in power. Your position is clear. If I said I was a christian, but I wore a kufi, read the koran, and shouted the takbir, would you believe my words or my actions? |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:56:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you look at the compromises *Reagan* made when he was President (and Governor) it was usually because Democrats were pushing for something much, much worse. The truth... Conservatives just do not have the numbers to accomplish much of anything. ~50% of the voting population is receiving some sort of government handouts? Romney tried calling-out the47% in the election... And ***LIBERTARIANS*** castigated him... The truth... You can live in la-la land while all your freedoms (you pretend give you moral superiority) fade away, and dissolve away around you... And your smugness and pride won't allow you to see the growing number of government dependents who vote... And vote straight-party Democrat. You are *never* going to see a resurgence of conservativism. We can hold back the tide... Demographic reality is demographic reality... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No way am I going to vote for Democrat Light. When the friggin Republican Party grows a pair and start actually implementing Conservative principles then they will get my vote but as long as they continue being a party of big government then forget it. When you look at the compromises *Reagan* made when he was President (and Governor) it was usually because Democrats were pushing for something much, much worse. The truth... Conservatives just do not have the numbers to accomplish much of anything. ~50% of the voting population is receiving some sort of government handouts? Romney tried calling-out the47% in the election... And ***LIBERTARIANS*** castigated him... The truth... You can live in la-la land while all your freedoms (you pretend give you moral superiority) fade away, and dissolve away around you... And your smugness and pride won't allow you to see the growing number of government dependents who vote... And vote straight-party Democrat. You are *never* going to see a resurgence of conservativism. We can hold back the tide... Demographic reality is demographic reality... By definition there can be no resurgence of conservatism. Its hold the line until losing the game. Conservatives do not set the line.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 10:59:45 AM EDT
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The way to win is to elect Republicans while working to "reform" the party from within in the same manner that the progressive liberals,and Fabian socialists did with the Democratic Party.
But that would take decades of dedication and hard work; libertarians ain't got time for that. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:01:46 AM EDT
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oh, it's the reoccurrence of the "this is how it is, vote R or else" thread.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:02:15 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Lord knows I never have. I've been voting against people since I was 18. I dream of one day voting FOR a candidate instead of merely voting to keep the other out of office. Where is my generation's JFK or Reagan? You know, someone we can actually love and support!? Instead I get stuck with GWB, McCain, and Romney! Rand Paul or Ted Cruz? If they can make it on to the ballot I'd more than happily vote for them, if being the key word. Honestly, I doubt either will make it through the primary. I swear the GOP establishment has found a way to make money off of running people and losing. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:02:36 AM EDT
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The way to win is to elect Republicans while working to "reform" the party from within in the same manner that the progressive liberals,and Fabian socialists did with the Democratic Party. But that would take decades of dedication and hard work; libertarians ain't got time for that. Perfect example of the republican mentality of entitlement when it comes to libertarian votes. They don't owe you anything, bro. They don't owe you the time and effort of "fixing" your party. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:03:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The way to win is to elect Republicans while working to "reform" the party from within in the same manner that the progressive liberals,and Fabian socialists did with the Democratic Party. But that would take decades of dedication and hard work; libertarians ain't got time for that. "Our party does not meet your views. Vote for us. Then work to change us to what you want it to be."
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:04:07 AM EDT
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^ I don't think there are a significant number who ever voted for a Republican or ever will. Lord knows I never have. I've been voting against people since I was 18. I dream of one day voting FOR a candidate instead of merely voting to keep the other out of office. Where is my generation's JFK or Reagan? You know, someone we can actually love and support!? Instead I get stuck with GWB, McCain, and Romney! Rand Paul or Ted Cruz? You must have missed the memo. Your buddies* TCPRE, HUGHJAF (sp?), and several others have spent years slagging Rand Paul & Cruz. Whereas 99% of the self-identified libertarians on this site would happily vote for an R that actually believed in limited government. *Actual relationship not guaranteed nor implies but you all consistently show up in the same faction in "libertarian" discussions. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:06:29 AM EDT
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"Our party does not meet your views. Vote for us. Then work to change us to what you want it to be." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The way to win is to elect Republicans while working to "reform" the party from within in the same manner that the progressive liberals,and Fabian socialists did with the Democratic Party. But that would take decades of dedication and hard work; libertarians ain't got time for that. "Our party does not meet your views. Vote for us. Then work to change us to what you want it to be." That's exactly how politics actually work and how the Democracts got us all under their socialist boot. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:06:42 AM EDT
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Fuck that, and I'll tell you why. You are no better than the Dems with that attitude. Lifelong republican here, and I will tell you I will never vote for a republican again unless there are radical changes in the party. Watching them piss away their position and base has been entertaining to say the least - and they think just like you do! It's always about winning isn't it, never about principle or values? You will never get rid of those "almost as crooked as Democrats" Republicans until you stand the fuck up and vote for the right person regardless of party affiliation. You've already lost and you don't even see it yet, because a lot of people think like you. In what rational world can you possibly advocate voting for an individual who does not represent what you believe either in word or in action? The fact that you are willing to do this is how "he" won. Molon Labe Quote HistoryQuoted:
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... Unfortunately, a vote for a Libertarian candidate in November is essentially a vote for the Democrats. I hate for establishment Republicans to remain seated, or gain more seats, but it's better than the alternative for now. ... Fuck that, and I'll tell you why. You are no better than the Dems with that attitude. Lifelong republican here, and I will tell you I will never vote for a republican again unless there are radical changes in the party. Watching them piss away their position and base has been entertaining to say the least - and they think just like you do! It's always about winning isn't it, never about principle or values? You will never get rid of those "almost as crooked as Democrats" Republicans until you stand the fuck up and vote for the right person regardless of party affiliation. You've already lost and you don't even see it yet, because a lot of people think like you. In what rational world can you possibly advocate voting for an individual who does not represent what you believe either in word or in action? The fact that you are willing to do this is how "he" won. Molon Labe The problem is not what I'm saying. It's the belief that enough self-professed Republicans will organize against them in a single general or midterm election to make them see the error their ways. My view is to admittedly make sure that Democrats lose ground and get things back toward the middle and then slowly pick away at the establishment without fear of losing more liberty at the hand of Democrats in power. This is not an overnight repair and believing so is a wasted vote. It needs to be collectively strategized over several elections. For now, we're teetering on disaster with November's election. You and I want the same thing. I just want to avoid hasty actions that will result in the opposite desire. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:07:16 AM EDT
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Every fucking election, every single time, exactly the same message. How the fuck can there ever be any change if you keep voting for the same parties by scaring people off the alternatives.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:08:03 AM EDT
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................. You must have missed the memo. Your buddies* TCPRE, HUGHJAF (sp?), and several others have spent years slagging Rand Paul & Cruz. Whereas 99% of the self-identified libertarians on this site would happily vote for an R that actually believed in limited government. *Actual relationship not guaranteed nor implies but you all consistently show up in the same faction in "libertarian" discussions. I don't agree with that "slagging"!! 
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:08:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:08:51 AM EDT
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Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:09:48 AM EDT
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Ahh, voting for the lesser of two evils. Either way you still end up with evil.  |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:10:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's exactly how politics actually work and how the Democracts got us all under their socialist boot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The way to win is to elect Republicans while working to "reform" the party from within in the same manner that the progressive liberals,and Fabian socialists did with the Democratic Party. But that would take decades of dedication and hard work; libertarians ain't got time for that. "Our party does not meet your views. Vote for us. Then work to change us to what you want it to be." That's exactly how politics actually work and how the Democracts got us all under their socialist boot. If only one side is apparently winning, then the losing side probably doesn't know shit about "how it works".
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:10:37 AM EDT
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In And................. I agree with OP, this is not the election to make a statement, it's an election to remove Democrats. I will agree with you on that. HOWEVER: it is tiresome to have *some* members think that they can berate a group for sticking up for their principals and being unhappy with the way things are and not acquiescing. I'm voting R in CO in order to oust the Dems and make a statement. This fits within my goals. However, the national GOP party needs to get kicked in the tunt until they change their ways. |
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Posted: 9/14/2014 11:10:49 AM EDT
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I don't agree with that "slagging"!! 
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