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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:35:47 PM EDT
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eventually
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:38:01 PM EDT
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Nope, GD promised me I could leave my moms basement and use my tier 1 operator gear in a gunfight for the apocalypse.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:38:13 PM EDT
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Has it become airborne yet? I can't even imagine something as disturbing then Ebola if it was airborne
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:40:46 PM EDT
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Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. Huh, they haven't gotten it together since Olduvai Gorge, I think we've got a while. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:41:39 PM EDT
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Molecular Evolution professor pce's out to some infectious disease conference for the week, and instead of getting a guest lecturer, he hands up a few papers to read to pass the time. This is one of them. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full.pdf In short, samples were taken from patients from the current outbreak and compared to those in previous outbreaks. The samples were genetically analyzed through the black magic that we can do, and then compared. The results point to the virus in the current outbreak being a direct descendent of the one in 2008 (which was assumed). The results also show how much the virus has mutated since 2008 (not that much). Most surprisingly, the results show how much the virus has mutated since the start of the outbreak, and it has a shitload. Far more than expected. For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. I wonder how HIV/AIDS plays into it. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:47:37 PM EDT
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I wonder how HIV/AIDS plays into it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Molecular Evolution professor pce's out to some infectious disease conference for the week, and instead of getting a guest lecturer, he hands up a few papers to read to pass the time. This is one of them. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full.pdf In short, samples were taken from patients from the current outbreak and compared to those in previous outbreaks. The samples were genetically analyzed through the black magic that we can do, and then compared. The results point to the virus in the current outbreak being a direct descendent of the one in 2008 (which was assumed). The results also show how much the virus has mutated since 2008 (not that much). Most surprisingly, the results show how much the virus has mutated since the start of the outbreak, and it has a shitload. Far more than expected. For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. I wonder how HIV/AIDS plays into it. Intrahost mutations being favored/influenced by other viruses is a whole other fucking mess. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:52:09 PM EDT
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Intrahost mutations being favored/influenced by other viruses is a whole other fucking mess. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Molecular Evolution professor pce's out to some infectious disease conference for the week, and instead of getting a guest lecturer, he hands up a few papers to read to pass the time. This is one of them. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full.pdf In short, samples were taken from patients from the current outbreak and compared to those in previous outbreaks. The samples were genetically analyzed through the black magic that we can do, and then compared. The results point to the virus in the current outbreak being a direct descendent of the one in 2008 (which was assumed). The results also show how much the virus has mutated since 2008 (not that much). Most surprisingly, the results show how much the virus has mutated since the start of the outbreak, and it has a shitload. Far more than expected. For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. I wonder how HIV/AIDS plays into it. Intrahost mutations being favored/influenced by other viruses is a whole other fucking mess. Rad. |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:56:31 PM EDT
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I won't be worried until Madagascar shuts down everything.
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:57:45 PM EDT
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Molecular Evolution professor pce's out to some infectious disease conference for the week, and instead of getting a guest lecturer, he hands up a few papers to read to pass the time. This is one of them. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full.pdf In short, samples were taken from patients from the current outbreak and compared to those in previous outbreaks. The samples were genetically analyzed through the black magic that we can do, and then compared. The results point to the virus in the current outbreak being a direct descendent of the one in 2008 (which was assumed). The results also show how much the virus has mutated since 2008 (not that much). Most surprisingly, the results show how much the virus has mutated since the start of the outbreak, and it has a shitload. Far more than expected. For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. Part II |
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Posted: 9/11/2014 11:58:27 PM EDT
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Hmm... like what they said in Armageddon, the ultimate killer, the end of mankind.
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:01:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I won't be worried until Madagascar shuts down everything. This |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:09:04 AM EDT
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My half sister is in Atlanta at the CDC taking classes on what things are going to be like when she gets to Africa. She's saying it's really bad.
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:11:53 AM EDT
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My half sister is in Atlanta at the CDC taking classes on what things are going to be like when she gets to Africa. She's saying it's really bad. You know whats fucked? The paper was written on August 5th. At that point there were 1229 deaths. Almost at 2300 now. |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:12:53 AM EDT
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It's just like the gypsy woman said.  |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:14:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know whats fucked? The paper was written on August 5th. At that point there were 1229 deaths. Almost at 2300 now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My half sister is in Atlanta at the CDC taking classes on what things are going to be like when she gets to Africa. She's saying it's really bad. You know whats fucked? The paper was written on August 5th. At that point there were 1229 deaths. Almost at 2300 now. Yup and we will just keep letting flights with passengers originating from that area into the country. Makes perfect sence to me. And with the ISIS threat going around, how hard would it be to weaponise that stuff....we would be looking at a pretty serious problem. |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:16:39 AM EDT
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Yup and we will just keep letting flights with passengers originating from that area into the country. Makes perfect sence to me. And with the ISIS threat going around, how hard would it be to weaponise that stuff....we would be looking at a pretty serious problem. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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My half sister is in Atlanta at the CDC taking classes on what things are going to be like when she gets to Africa. She's saying it's really bad. You know whats fucked? The paper was written on August 5th. At that point there were 1229 deaths. Almost at 2300 now. Yup and we will just keep letting flights with passengers originating from that area into the country. Makes perfect sence to me. And with the ISIS threat going around, how hard would it be to weaponise that stuff....we would be looking at a pretty serious problem. Weaponize? Pretty hard. Send someone over to purposely contract it and then spread blood/mucus all over door handles/stair railings/subway bars? Pretty easy. |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:20:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weaponize? Pretty hard. Send someone over to purposely contract it and then spread blood/mucus all over door handles/stair railings/subway bars? Pretty easy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: My half sister is in Atlanta at the CDC taking classes on what things are going to be like when she gets to Africa. She's saying it's really bad. You know whats fucked? The paper was written on August 5th. At that point there were 1229 deaths. Almost at 2300 now. Yup and we will just keep letting flights with passengers originating from that area into the country. Makes perfect sence to me. And with the ISIS threat going around, how hard would it be to weaponise that stuff....we would be looking at a pretty serious problem. Weaponize? Pretty hard. Send someone over to purposely contract it and then spread blood/mucus all over door handles/stair railings/subway bars? Pretty easy. OK, so its not something that could intentionally be turned into an airborne without a TON of work? |
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Posted: 9/12/2014 12:31:56 AM EDT
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OK, so its not something that could intentionally be turned into an airborne without a TON of work? It would take a very large amount of knowledge and a pretty good chunk of time. Part of deliberately weaponizing something is knowing exactly what does what (how specific genes impact the disease). It would take a lot of work to do that, especially seeing how we don't even have that down yet. The thing about nature though is that completely randomly, without any tinkering, and those changes can cause advancements like becoming airborne. The fact that intra-host mutations are occurring relatively rapidly and that the rate of transmission is staying close to exponential means that such mutations will occur exponentially as well. If it continues at it's current rate, it's only a matter of time before it gets out of hand. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:36:17 AM EDT
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as far as weaponization....
ebola doesn't need to be airborne for that. what is needs is specific changes in it's ability to survive outside a host. it could easily be introduced into a mass location via spray or "dirty bomb" method. the problem is in order to make such thing you really need some expensive facilities and equipment along with some rather specific knowledge. the cost of the project is simply just to high for the return vs car bombs and such. then there is the how do you claim the land when it's contaminated after it's over. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:45:40 AM EDT
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They say life began in Africa......fitting for Africa to start the ending process too
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Posted: 9/15/2014 7:58:09 AM EDT
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I guarantee it
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:04:20 AM EDT
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FPNI.
Read some material over the weekend about the UN taking over the lead role in this African outbreak and what they "might" have to do if this thing reaches large population centers. Wonder who has the balls to nuke this from space when the choice is 200 million today verses 6 Billion tomorrow? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:08:34 AM EDT
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eventually You can't dispute that post..... |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:16:57 AM EDT
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Molecular Evolution professor pce's out to some infectious disease conference for the week, and instead of getting a guest lecturer, he hands up a few papers to read to pass the time. This is one of them. http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6202/1369.full.pdf In short, samples were taken from patients from the current outbreak and compared to those in previous outbreaks. The samples were genetically analyzed through the black magic that we can do, and then compared. The results point to the virus in the current outbreak being a direct descendent of the one in 2008 (which was assumed). The results also show how much the virus has mutated since 2008 (not that much). Most surprisingly, the results show how much the virus has mutated since the start of the outbreak, and it has a shitload. Far more than expected. For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. I postulated that when this this started to take off. Immune system action can act like darwin process of natural selection. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:24:35 AM EDT
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Its simple create a quarantine around Africa no boats or planes in or out. Leave a nice whole to leave towards the Mideast Ebola should fix a lot of the problems there, then we just nuke the place to save humanity.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:44:28 AM EDT
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Scary when they seem to have nothing that can stop this thing.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 8:48:17 AM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:39:03 AM EDT
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Daughter works in large metro ER as an RN...stated this am...first case come to her ER SHE IS WALKING OUT...QUITING RIGHT THERE coming home after decon and not going back...we have plans to shelter in place at family farm...if it goes airborne and some have said it has this is a world changing event...God help us all...
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Posted: 9/15/2014 9:47:15 AM EDT
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E.L.E.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:42:13 AM EDT
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Fuck it, I'm just in this one to watch the stupid.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:48:18 AM EDT
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Has it become airborne yet? I can't even imagine something as disturbing then Ebola if it was airborne I was reading an article last week, can't remeber the exact article, that said that scientists fear that this strain could mutate into an airborne form very quickly at the rate it is currently mutating. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 10:59:31 AM EDT
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Grave danger?
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:06:43 AM EDT
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I'm holding out for mosquito-borne ebolas.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:22:47 AM EDT
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For some reason the virus mutates more rapidly in us than it's natural carrier. Basically, if Africa can't get it's shit together, we're all fucked. What is its natural carrier and will some dumbass please quit screwing it or drinking its blood? |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:25:52 AM EDT
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Meh, we need to thin the herd.
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Daughter works in large metro ER as an RN...stated this am...first case come to her ER SHE IS WALKING OUT...QUITING RIGHT THERE coming home after decon and not going back...we have plans to shelter in place at family farm...if it goes airborne and some have said it has this is a world changing event...God help us all... You can run, but you can't........................ etc. In the 1918 influenza pandemic people in the remote Canadian northwest, Alaska, contracted the virus. Quoted:
........................... OK, so its not something that could intentionally be turned into an airborne without a TON of work? saturation bombing using infected Africans. piece a cake. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:34:22 AM EDT
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What they're not telling us is that they're all really just playing Plague Inc. on their phones
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:35:17 AM EDT
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Why yes...yes we are. Ain't none of us getting out of this motherfucker alive.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:37:11 AM EDT
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We need to vaporize Africa before it's too late.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:39:11 AM EDT
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FPNI. Read some material over the weekend about the UN taking over the lead role in this African outbreak and what they "might" have to do if this thing reaches large population centers. Wonder who has the balls to nuke this from space when the choice is 200 million today verses 6 Billion tomorrow? Answer: NOBODY will do that. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:40:56 AM EDT
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as far as weaponization.... ebola doesn't need to be airborne for that. what is needs is specific changes in it's ability to survive outside a host. it could easily be introduced into a mass location via spray or "dirty bomb" method. the problem is in order to make such thing you really need some expensive facilities and equipment along with some rather specific knowledge. the cost of the project is simply just to high for the return vs car bombs and such. then there is the how do you claim the land when it's contaminated after it's over. Suicide bomber that is infected. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:42:57 AM EDT
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Neat stuff.
The last I heard was that this latest outbreak has seen a lot of human-to-human transmission in comparison to prior outbreaks. 
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Posted: 9/15/2014 11:43:18 AM EDT
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Send it to the guy in MN so he can combine it with his newest strain of combined avian 1918 flu bug just in case it happens naturally.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:06:10 PM EDT
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Neat stuff. The last I heard was that this latest outbreak has seen a lot of human-to-human transmission in comparison to prior outbreaks. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ebola-meme-240x180.jpg Holy fuck I just spit my lunch on my keyboard. 
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:06:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:07:45 PM EDT
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I shouldn't laugh, but if you search google images for "ebola memes" it is a gold mine of hilarity.
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:23:22 PM EDT
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Holy fuck I just spit my lunch on my keyboard. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neat stuff. The last I heard was that this latest outbreak has seen a lot of human-to-human transmission in comparison to prior outbreaks. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ebola-meme-240x180.jpg Holy fuck I just spit my lunch on my keyboard. What I've read in medical journals is that if you are an inviting, and welcoming host, the ebola virus will let you off easy. It's the bitchy, inhospitable hosts that end up doing all of the disgusting eye hemorrhaging stuff. My plan is to simply reason with this intelligent and evolving virus, and simply be a good host. So, I've brought out the horns and rolled out the welcome mat. I also ordered some monkeys off eBay. They'll be here Thursday. Much better to battle this known ebola virus today in its current form, and build immunity, than trying to battle the super-evolved, stronger ebola virus of the future. Not my fault y'all don't have a plan. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:25:23 PM EDT
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What I've read in medical journals is that if you are an inviting, and welcoming host, the ebola virus will let you off easy. It's the bitchy, inhospitable hosts that end up doing all of the disgusting eye hemorrhaging stuff. My plan is to simply reason with this intelligent and evolving virus, and simply be a good host. So, I've brought out the horns and rolled out the welcome mat. I also ordered some monkeys off eBay. They'll be here Thursday. Much better to battle this known ebola virus today in its current form, and build immunity, than trying to battle the super-evolved, stronger ebola virus of the future. Not my fault y'all don't have a plan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neat stuff. The last I heard was that this latest outbreak has seen a lot of human-to-human transmission in comparison to prior outbreaks. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ebola-meme-240x180.jpg Holy fuck I just spit my lunch on my keyboard. What I've read in medical journals is that if you are an inviting, and welcoming host, the ebola virus will let you off easy. It's the bitchy, inhospitable hosts that end up doing all of the disgusting eye hemorrhaging stuff. My plan is to simply reason with this intelligent and evolving virus, and simply be a good host. So, I've brought out the horns and rolled out the welcome mat. I also ordered some monkeys off eBay. They'll be here Thursday. Much better to battle this known ebola virus today in its current form, and build immunity, than trying to battle the super-evolved, stronger ebola virus of the future. Not my fault y'all don't have a plan. I hear monkey meat tastes wonderful this time of year. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:28:35 PM EDT
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as far as weaponization.... ebola doesn't need to be airborne for that. what is needs is specific changes in it's ability to survive outside a host. it could easily be introduced into a mass location via spray or "dirty bomb" method. the problem is in order to make such thing you really need some expensive facilities and equipment along with some rather specific knowledge. the cost of the project is simply just to high for the return vs car bombs and such. then there is the how do you claim the land when it's contaminated after it's over. Marburg. I don't know how effective would have been, but the Soviets did weaponize it. http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/intro/bio-marburg.htm |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:30:19 PM EDT
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I hear monkey meat tastes wonderful this time of year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neat stuff. The last I heard was that this latest outbreak has seen a lot of human-to-human transmission in comparison to prior outbreaks. http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ebola-meme-240x180.jpg Holy fuck I just spit my lunch on my keyboard. What I've read in medical journals is that if you are an inviting, and welcoming host, the ebola virus will let you off easy. It's the bitchy, inhospitable hosts that end up doing all of the disgusting eye hemorrhaging stuff. My plan is to simply reason with this intelligent and evolving virus, and simply be a good host. So, I've brought out the horns and rolled out the welcome mat. I also ordered some monkeys off eBay. They'll be here Thursday. Much better to battle this known ebola virus today in its current form, and build immunity, than trying to battle the super-evolved, stronger ebola virus of the future. Not my fault y'all don't have a plan. I hear monkey meat tastes wonderful this time of year. That would certainly account for the exorbitant Buy-it-Now prices. Crazy. |
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Posted: 9/15/2014 12:43:02 PM EDT
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