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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:02:59 PM EDT
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It will be fantastic entertainment if the Scots get independence. It would such for them, but be great fun to watch the shit show. it'll be epic fucking failure Worse than the current trajectory of the UK? |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:04:13 PM EDT
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It will be fantastic entertainment if the Scots get independence. It would such for them, but be great fun to watch the shit show. Seeing a foreign FSA having no Free Shit all of a sudden.That is going to be EPIC and enlightening for us here when our FSA's EBT cards run dry. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:08:36 PM EDT
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I theory you'd have a Shengen country (Marxist Scotland) sharing a decently sized land-mass border with a non-Schengen country (England) = watch out for the shit & giglges that THAT would result in The youth locally to me have massively voted NO in local polls. The ploy of offering the sweetened teet to the uninformed seems to have backfired...BBC Scotland News - that's the local high school... Time to start a little repair and updating on Hadrian's Wall. It could be very useful, again. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:09:14 PM EDT
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So is this an ethno-state thing or a neo-Marxist thing? Yes. VERY much Marxist in theme - given the history of the SNP leader & Scottish "First Minister" - Alex Salmond He was expelled from the SNP for being too radical in the past - see 79 Group The SNP are rabidly anti-English & even more so very very anti-Semetic/anti-Israeli yet pro-Palestine/PLO http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/why-is-the-snp-endorsing-israel-haters/ ...some interesting times ahead for sure Oh, there's also a lot of 1930's brown-shirt style electoral bullying going on at present from the YES crowd....people (even national celebrity & sportsmen/women) speaking up against independence are being targeted & even receiving death threats...yet the YES crowd bring in well known "rent-a-Jocks" like American-citizen Alan Cumming & wife-beater Barbados resident Sean Connery, et al...(the latter said he'll only move to Scotland if it wins the vote - happy to do a house exchange with him to save him any delay...) At least that nice rotund North Korean chap will fit in well if he wants a trip to the Highlands anytime post-election: it'll be like Tweedledee & Tweedledum when he stands next to Salmond |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:16:17 PM EDT
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Could the Scots figure out how to vote Celtic FC out as well at the same time?
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:19:47 PM EDT
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Before having done some reading, I thought "let the Scots be independent of the English rule!" Now, after reading about their politics, how they are wholly dependent on England, I decided "let the Scots be free so England is rid of them!" I am sure their ancestors are rolling in their graves and wondering how their descendants became such garbage and chaff.
It looks like in Scotland that they have allowed (as in the US, France, Germany, Holland, England etc.) too many Muslims into their country as well. I wonder when these countries will realize the unfettered immigration by these third world people was a bad thing. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:19:48 PM EDT
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It will be fantastic entertainment if the Scots get independence. It would such for them, but be great fun to watch the shit show. it'll be epic fucking failure Worse than the current trajectory of the UK? scotland is a huge drag on England. I think the English economy gets a big boost if they leave plus it fucks the labour party hard because so much of their support is in scotland |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. in, say, 1774-75. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:45:23 PM EDT
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The way I see it, if they want to stay that's fine, we can do that or if they want to go that fine too, thanks for the memories and we'll see you about. Either way just fucking get on with it and shut the fuck up about it. Will it happen in my opinion? No. There is too much at stake in them staying and many interested eyes vested in them losing the votes because it'd pave the way for other secession movements in the EU to gain legitimacy including the Catalans, the Flemish, the Basques and others.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:53:09 PM EDT
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I hope it goes through, everyone in Scotland will have to learn to shoulder the load of those who refuse to carry their own weight.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:53:54 PM EDT
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I hope the yes vote wins.
It will give Obama a place to emigrate after he is done screwing up the country he presently lives in. King Obama of Scotland ! |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 1:57:56 PM EDT
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Which is in itself odd, given their history of resisting English invasions. (and killing the fuck out of each other as well during their clan warfare periods.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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According to arfcom, Scotland is even more anti-gun, anti-weapon than England is. If that is the case there will be yet another socialist/communist country being created in the Western Hemisphere. Which is in itself odd, given their history of resisting English invasions. (and killing the fuck out of each other as well during their clan warfare periods.) All those troublemakers got forcibly relocated to Northern Ireland, which still didn't cure the rash they got from being so close to the English. So they moved to America. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:00:48 PM EDT
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything to get away from the monarchy. That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? No, the new Queen of Scotland will have hairy balls, still be a welfare addict and like dicks. 
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:01:13 PM EDT
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything to get away from the monarchy. That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:04:36 PM EDT
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything to get away from the monarchy. That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? 
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:06:02 PM EDT
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There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. That is why I want Scotland to go Independent, as an object lesson on statism and grand wreckage. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:06:41 PM EDT
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I hope the yes vote wins. It will give Obama a place to emigrate after he is done screwing up the country he presently lives in. King Obama of Scotland ! I figure in early 17 he will either move back to his native Kenya or take on some sort of leadership role in ISIS, or maybe the MB. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:12:15 PM EDT
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There would be a giant sucking sound as all the socialists became part of Scotland.
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:36:11 PM EDT
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Good.
England needs them like a giant boil on the ass. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:40:13 PM EDT
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This is like Michigan Mississippi trying to secede. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent?  This is like Michigan Mississippi trying to secede. FIFY 
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:45:23 PM EDT
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There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. But, shouldn't they decide their future? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. But, shouldn't they decide their future? Nothing wrong with them deciding their future, but they should really take a look at their financial situation. [/list=1] |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:46:41 PM EDT
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That is why I want Scotland to go Independent, as an object lesson on statism and grand wreckage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. That is why I want Scotland to go Independent, as an object lesson on statism and grand wreckage. It would be even more pronounced since the UK, freed from Labour socialism for a generation, would naturally skyrocket economically. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:46:51 PM EDT
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There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. But, shouldn't they decide their future? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. But, shouldn't they decide their future? Nothing wrong with them deciding their future, but they should really take a look at their financial situation. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 2:58:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. I take that as a "no", then  |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 3:12:56 PM EDT
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. I take that as a "no", then
He doesn't know what the Commonwealth is either. 
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Posted: 9/7/2014 3:55:43 PM EDT
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I take that as a "no", then
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That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. I take that as a "no", then
Not all 'muricans are like that; don't worry. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:13:39 PM EDT
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Good for them. They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch Uh, Scots is it's own language. It is related to English but technically descended from Middle English and not Modern English. Unless you're telling me that "Auld Lang Syne" is completely readable to you. That being said, most Scottish people these days merely speak modern English with some Scots words thrown in. So, it's funny if you think about it, Scotland technically has three languages; Scottish Gaelic, Scots, and English. It's all English, just three levels of intoxication. 
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:15:45 PM EDT
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I was there in June and from speaking with a 20 something female, what I gathered from her was it's the youth that want to be independent from England and the next step would be to join the EU and latch onto that welfare tit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent? I was there in June and from speaking with a 20 something female, what I gathered from her was it's the youth that want to be independent from England and the next step would be to join the EU and latch onto that welfare tit. Scotland cannot into Merkel Reich. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:20:32 PM EDT
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I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything to get away from the monarchy. That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. Bless your heart. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:24:39 PM EDT
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Scotland cannot into Merkel Reich. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent? I was there in June and from speaking with a 20 something female, what I gathered from her was it's the youth that want to be independent from England and the next step would be to join the EU and latch onto that welfare tit. Scotland cannot into Merkel Reich. Germany's about done with supporting the EU, from what I understand. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:27:06 PM EDT
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Much like the Bank of England told them to get fucked when they said they'd continue to use the Pound as a currency, the EU have more or less told Scotland that membership will NOT be automatically granted....even IF it is eventually allowed into the EU, see my earlier post: Scotland would HAVE to sign to Schengen = free movement within Europe, without paperwork or passports. Britain, as it stands, opted out of Schengen. I theory you'd have a Shengen country (Marxist Scotland) sharing a decently sized land-mass border with a non-Schengen country (England) = watch out for the shit & giglges that THAT would result in The youth locally to me have massively voted NO in local polls. The ploy of offering the sweetened teet to the uninformed seems to have backfired...BBC Scotland News - that's the local high school... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent? I was there in June and from speaking with a 20 something female, what I gathered from her was it's the youth that want to be independent from England and the next step would be to join the EU and latch onto that welfare tit. Much like the Bank of England told them to get fucked when they said they'd continue to use the Pound as a currency, the EU have more or less told Scotland that membership will NOT be automatically granted....even IF it is eventually allowed into the EU, see my earlier post: Scotland would HAVE to sign to Schengen = free movement within Europe, without paperwork or passports. Britain, as it stands, opted out of Schengen. I theory you'd have a Shengen country (Marxist Scotland) sharing a decently sized land-mass border with a non-Schengen country (England) = watch out for the shit & giglges that THAT would result in The youth locally to me have massively voted NO in local polls. The ploy of offering the sweetened teet to the uninformed seems to have backfired...BBC Scotland News - that's the local high school... The Spanish will never agree to letting them join the EU. They don't want to encourage Catalonia. |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:27:38 PM EDT
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent? I was there in June and from speaking with a 20 something female, what I gathered from her was it's the youth that want to be independent from England and the next step would be to join the EU and latch onto that welfare tit. Scotland cannot into Merkel Reich. Germany's about done with supporting the EU, from what I understand. They will have to push through further austerity measures, and there's no room for Scotland (i.e. Greece 2.0). |
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Posted: 9/7/2014 4:36:43 PM EDT
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I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anything to get away from the monarchy. That's true. They'll just have the Queen of Scotland. Who also happens to be the Queen of England. I take it you don't understand the concept behind the Union? I take it you don't understand the concept behind Independence? If they are just voting to be another state within the Union then that's not Independence. Still one step away from the monarchy. Fuck the monarchy. Dear Lord, you're dim. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:02:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. in, say, 1774-75. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. Certainly. But their ideals and goals for Scotland are diametrically opposed to the Founding Father's ideals and goals for the United States. I actually hope they do split from Britain. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:04:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is why I want Scotland to go Independent, as an object lesson on statism and grand wreckage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. There's a huge difference between America in 1774, and Scotland in 2014. The American revolution resulted in MORE freedom. The Scottish revolution will result in much, much LESS freedom. That is why I want Scotland to go Independent, as an object lesson on statism and grand wreckage. It's part of the reason why Quebec decided to stay with Canada. Their leaders realized that they'd go bankrupt without Alberta oil money. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:11:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The British members of the board think this is a great thing IIRC, since it would make the rest of the country swing right. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:27:58 AM EDT
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Do they know that they will be responsible for their own welfare costs if independent? This is like Michigan trying to secede. More like West Virginia But it'll end up as ugly as if Puerto Rico votes for secession. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 12:44:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:40:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and save a buttload of cash,if scotland is dumb enough to do it I would be all for it too Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The British members of the board think this is a great thing IIRC, since it would make the rest of the country swing right. One of the issues is the short term financial problems. Uncertainty increases risk, risk makes it harder to bring in investment. There is also likely to be an impact on borrowing in England, which is going to affect businesses and, by extension, employees and consumers. Even if it's highly beneficial in the long term, there's still the next few years to get through if they vote Yes. What makes me chuckle is that the Royal Bank of Scotland have already said they will move the entire bank to England if the Scots vote for independence |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:46:56 AM EDT
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What amazes me is that the outgoing Scottish MPs would get to stay in the English Parliament until 2016 if the Scots vote for independence!
Why the hell wold you keep them around, mucking things up and voting on things that they won't ever have to answer for ever again?
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:47:49 AM EDT
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Dumb bastards. Sober up, then vote. I love a socialist invoking the American revolution. Read up on the SNP and stop supporting socialism. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:49:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:50:23 AM EDT
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The youth locally to me have massively voted NO in local polls. The ploy of offering the sweetened teet to the uninformed seems to have backfired...BBC Scotland News - that's the local high school... Most know that going south is the best plan for getting an actual job. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 4:52:11 AM EDT
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The Spanish will never agree to letting them join the EU. They don't want to encourage Catalonia. Nor the Italians, Greeks, or Belgians, with their own succession issues. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 5:19:35 AM EDT
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Good for them. They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch No it is not. I got stopped and asked for directions by a lost Scotsman at a gas station in central Texas and to tell you the truth, I could not understand what he was saying. He had to write it down on a piece of paper and I wrote out the response. I guess they don't have hooked on phonics in Scotland. |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 5:26:51 AM EDT
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No it is not. I got stopped and asked for directions by a lost Scotsman at a gas station in central Texas and to tell you the truth, I could not understand what he was saying. He had to write it down on a piece of paper and I wrote out the response. I guess they don't have hooked on phonics in Scotland. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good for them. They are also calling "Scots" it's own language now. That's a stretch No it is not. I got stopped and asked for directions by a lost Scotsman at a gas station in central Texas and to tell you the truth, I could not understand what he was saying. He had to write it down on a piece of paper and I wrote out the response. I guess they don't have hooked on phonics in Scotland. That's not actually unusual for people traveling through the South. I'm originally from Rhode Island and I've had several occasions where Southerners or I had to restate something slowly to each other.
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Posted: 9/8/2014 6:06:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/8/2014 6:42:55 AM EDT
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I hope the yes vote wins. It will give Obama a place to emigrate after he is done screwing up the country he presently lives in. King Obama of Scotland ! In before he takes a flight of Israelis prisoner... |
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Posted: 9/8/2014 7:13:19 AM EDT
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