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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:39:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only with sufficient enzymes to process alcohol at a decent rate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: so are we for Scottish independence or against it? if Britain no longer has Scotland is it no longer the U.K. or is it just Britain or England now? And would England like to become part of the United States? I mean wouldn't England have more in common with the United states than associating with Europe etc? I think a broad consensus would be (i) yep, great idea in theory, all for freedom and independence etc, but (ii) not under the current "leadership". The UK would still be the UK, Britain would still be Britain. "Great Britain" as a political entity would cease to exist. And I think you'll find that it's the US that will become part of England. Maybe a nice Principality. Or maybe a Duchy. The United Stateshire  If you guys join us instead we'll give you the same deal we gave the tribes; well, the same deal we gave them after the genocide and treaty betrayals anyways. You get to keep your government and have your own weird laws and are now citizens of the US but you're also citizens of your tribe. The only things you can't regulate are trade, money and the military, England and Wales would become one big reservation. Only with sufficient enzymes to process alcohol at a decent rate. Yeah, no need to outlaw booze on the English reservation. Only question is do we need a Bureau of British Affairs to manage the British land for them? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:42:59 PM EDT
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You forgot the flow of money. Despite their leftism, Catalonians are producers. More likely to be educated, especially in STEM fields, but not neglecting finance. Catalan is also the dominant language in the region. English is dominant in Scotland. Catalunya stands a chance of not going full pinko if they were to break away. They also don't rely on a finite natural resource. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://trendsmap.com/v2/Lf62/w Scottish tweets showing a strong "Yes" support. And also from Catalonia  And it's really a big stretch to keep comparing Catalunya to Scotland. So many differences in circumstances. There are many similarities. Catalonia and Scotland are both among the most left-wing parts of their respective countries. Both regions already have semi-autonomy. Both regions have their own languages and other long-established customs. The major difference is that London is allowing this referendum, whereas Madrid is fighting any Catalan referendum. But if Scotland votes "Yes," then Catalan nationalists will definitely feel empowered. The Catalonians are watching the results in Scotland eagerly. You forgot the flow of money. Despite their leftism, Catalonians are producers. More likely to be educated, especially in STEM fields, but not neglecting finance. Catalan is also the dominant language in the region. English is dominant in Scotland. Catalunya stands a chance of not going full pinko if they were to break away. They also don't rely on a finite natural resource. True, and in many ways Catalonia has an even greater argument for independence than Scotland, but it's hardly a "big stretch" to keep bringing up Catalonia in connection to Scotland. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:43:35 PM EDT
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The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He could vote no.  Would the British flag have to change? The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Just put a pint glass on a green field for Northern Ireland.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:45:17 PM EDT
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Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He could vote no. Would the British flag have to change? The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Too drunk to be bothered with it. 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:45:19 PM EDT
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Just put a pint glass on a green field for Northern Ireland. Well that would cause some debate. Should it be full and standing or on it's side with a little bit spilled on the ground? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the voting open only to people living in Scotland proper or is it open to Scottish people? What is the criteria for a voter to vote? Do they need a physical address in Scotland? What about someone serving in the MoD in Afghanistan or elsewhere? What about a Scottish person living in N.I.? I'm quoting myself to see if our resident UKers can answer this. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:46:43 PM EDT
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Well that would cause some debate. Should it be full and standing or on it's side with a little bit spilled on the ground? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just put a pint glass on a green field for Northern Ireland. Well that would cause some debate. Should it be full and standing or on it's side with a little bit spilled on the ground? In between.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:51:44 PM EDT
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What is the criteria for a voter to vote? Do they need a physical address in Scotland? What about someone serving in the MoD in Afghanistan or elsewhere? What about a Scottish person living in N.I.? I'm quoting myself to see if our resident UKers can answer this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the voting open only to people living in Scotland proper or is it open to Scottish people? I'm quoting myself to see if our resident UKers can answer this. all residents of scotland, over 16 years. no one outside of the scottish borders gets a vote |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:52:55 PM EDT
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Why not use this design
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: all residents of scotland, over 16 years. no one outside of the scottish borders gets a vote Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the voting open only to people living in Scotland proper or is it open to Scottish people? I'm quoting myself to see if our resident UKers can answer this. all residents of scotland, over 16 years. no one outside of the scottish borders gets a vote So any 16 year old or older with a physical address in Scotland then. Seems somewhat under-represented. I figured Scots in the military would get a vote as well as those living abroad.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:54:42 PM EDT
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The extent of my knowledge on Scotland is as follows: Innis and Gunn is poison, Skull Spiltter is overrated, and only the first Glasvegas album was good.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Would the British flag have to change? The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to Change it to a portrait of Oscar Wilde sipping tea.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is the voting open only to people living in Scotland proper or is it open to Scottish people? I'm quoting myself to see if our resident UKers can answer this. all residents of scotland, over 16 years. no one outside of the scottish borders gets a vote So any 16 year old or older with a physical address in Scotland then. Seems somewhat under-represented. I figured Scots in the military would get a vote as well as those living abroad. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Every time the convene a committee, someone ends up in the hospital by the end of the first meeting.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:03:25 PM EDT
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Every time the convene a committee, someone ends up in the hospital by the end of the first meeting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Every time the convene a committee, someone ends up in the hospital by the end of the first meeting. So, much like Greenland then
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, much like Greenland then Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Every time the convene a committee, someone ends up in the hospital by the end of the first meeting. So, much like Greenland then Except they actually have enough people to form a committee |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:17:49 PM EDT
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He could vote no. Would the British flag have to change? BBC had some thoughts on this a while back ... http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25205017 And may Jesus have mercy upon us, if they vote no ... http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25222891 |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:27:38 PM EDT
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So, much like Greenland then Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Every time the convene a committee, someone ends up in the hospital by the end of the first meeting. So, much like Greenland then Ever heard the Dead Milkmen song "Shaft in Greenland"?
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:33:11 PM EDT
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Don't know to be honest. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Don't know to be honest. They'd pick a flag and somebody would end up getting offended and somebody else would end up getting shot. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:36:05 PM EDT
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They'd pick a flag and somebody would end up getting offended and somebody else would end up getting shot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Don't know to be honest. They'd pick a flag and somebody would end up getting offended and somebody else would end up getting shot. There was an issue with flags not so long ago and it got rather heated, so you might be right. The easier thing would be to come up with several designs and put it to the vote or a series of votes. Democracy takes place and the winner is represented. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:40:46 PM EDT
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Greece has been a shithole too long to be a good example. We need to watch a country fall from a reasonable height. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want them to be a prime example of what unfettered left wing politics can do to a country. Isn't Greece already fulfilling that role? Greece has been a shithole too long to be a good example. We need to watch a country fall from a reasonable height. Argentina? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:54:36 PM EDT
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Polls are closing in 6 minutes.
eta http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-what-happens-after-polls-close |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:55:55 PM EDT
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Why not use this design http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Ulster_banner.svg/1280px-Ulster_banner.svg.png But with the St. Patrick's Cross? Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population? 
This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:57:33 PM EDT
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I want them to be a prime example of what unfettered left wing politics can do to a country. Isn't Greece already fulfilling that role? Greece has been a shithole too long to be a good example. We need to watch a country fall from a reasonable height. Argentina? too long ago plus no-one can understand them |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:58:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Polls are closing in 6 minutes. eta http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-what-happens-after-polls-close |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 4:59:26 PM EDT
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1 minute to go McMofos
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1 minute to go McMofos |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:02:04 PM EDT
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Polls now closed.....let the counting begin
All YES voters have little dicks, but Kay Burley is as fit as a butchers dog for a 53 year old 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:03:14 PM EDT
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:10:06 PM EDT
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Polls now closed.....let the counting begin All YES voters have little dicks, but Kay Burley is as fit as a butchers dog for a 53 year old
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/10/05/article-2213299-155D1105000005DC-338_306x423.jpg would smash but fuck the nos, I support all secessionist movements everywhere - unity is for faggots |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:13:47 PM EDT
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:16:11 PM EDT
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET What are you trying to say? |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:21:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population? This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire http://wscont2.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/ae4687fd-d8bc-43a4-9905-52a67d494422/Screenshot.222809.1000001.jpg When you want to know about N Ireland, ask someone from N Ireland Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why not use this design http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Ulster_banner.svg/1280px-Ulster_banner.svg.png But with the St. Patrick's Cross? Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population? This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire http://wscont2.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/ae4687fd-d8bc-43a4-9905-52a67d494422/Screenshot.222809.1000001.jpg When you want to know about N Ireland, ask someone from N Ireland I tried....
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:22:08 PM EDT
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There was an issue with flags not so long ago and it got rather heated, so you might be right. The easier thing would be to come up with several designs and put it to the vote or a series of votes. Democracy takes place and the winner is represented. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Union Flag? Yes - we'd need to get rid of the blue bits, but that would then open up some space to allow other members of the Union to express their nationality more on the Union Flag. The Welsh have a Dragon would be tool to have on the glad, and Northern Ireland, while not having a flag officially sanctioned by the Northern Ireland Govt could get better representation on the flag as well, either with St Patrick's Saltire, or the Ulster Banner, both countries being somewhat under-represented Why doesn't N.I. have their own official flag? Don't know to be honest. They'd pick a flag and somebody would end up getting offended and somebody else would end up getting shot. There was an issue with flags not so long ago and it got rather heated, so you might be right. The easier thing would be to come up with several designs and put it to the vote or a series of votes. Democracy takes place and the winner is represented. A little thing like voting has never stopped the irish from shooting each other. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crap.... I want to see the People's Glorious Democratic Liberal Socialist National Republic of Scotland be born. The counting is still early. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET It's only a 4% difference at the moment, and that was only what people would admit to the pollsters. Who knows how the actual count will be. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:25:09 PM EDT
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No way will they risk that sweet sweet sweet welfare milk.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:25:59 PM EDT
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Crap.... I want to see the People's Glorious Democratic Liberal Socialist National Republic of Scotland be born. The counting is still early. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET We can hope. I want to see the English roll back all the laws that got forced upon them. If the vote goes "no" you people need to get your own local parliament. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can hope. I want to see the English roll back all the laws that got forced upon them. If the vote goes "no" you people need to get your own local parliament. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET We can hope. I want to see the English roll back all the laws that got forced upon them. If the vote goes "no" you people need to get your own local parliament. They have except for England.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:44:13 PM EDT
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How much longer will they 'head to the polls'
Its almost 11pm over there already dammit
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:46:39 PM EDT
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Just tell them you already started making new flags; too late to turn back now.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:51:45 PM EDT
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Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population?
This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire http://wscont2.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/ae4687fd-d8bc-43a4-9905-52a67d494422/Screenshot.222809.1000001.jpg When you want to know about N Ireland, ask someone from N Ireland Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not use this design http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Ulster_banner.svg/1280px-Ulster_banner.svg.png But with the St. Patrick's Cross? Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population?
This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire http://wscont2.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/ae4687fd-d8bc-43a4-9905-52a67d494422/Screenshot.222809.1000001.jpg When you want to know about N Ireland, ask someone from N Ireland Sweet home Alab ... Northern Ireland? Say what? Bless your heart, Mr. Bradders, but I believe that is the flag of the fair state of Alabama, US of fuckin' A. Silly Brits. You deserve Scotland!
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:52:01 PM EDT
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How much longer will they 'head to the polls' Its almost 11pm over there already dammit The polls closed 51 minutes ago |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who knows how the actual count will be.
You'd THINK a fellow Brit would KNOW!!!! FFS!! It's not how, it's WHO It's not count, it's CUNT The ANSWER - of course - Alexie Salmondovich - though Mizz Sturgeon is also a close contender. McArsekill is a different part of the anatomy |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:53:25 PM EDT
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET We can hope. I want to see the English roll back all the laws that got forced upon them. If the vote goes "no" you people need to get your own local parliament. They have except for England. Exactly. The scots welsh and ni have a say in English affairs but the reverse is not true. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:55:29 PM EDT
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Polls suggesting NO, or as Comrade Alexi Salmondov would say, NYET We can hope. I want to see the English roll back all the laws that got forced upon them. If the vote goes "no" you people need to get your own local parliament. They have except for England. THAT experiment died a death in 2004 Devolution of powers was binned after a referendum voted almost 80% against - then again, the idea was pushed by Labour - so about as viable as a three legged racehorse |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:55:38 PM EDT
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Sweet home Alab ... Northern Ireland? Say what? Bless your heart, Mr. Bradders, but I believe that is the flag of the fair state of Alabama, US of fuckin' A. Silly Brits. You deserve Scotland! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why not use this design http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/Ulster_banner.svg/1280px-Ulster_banner.svg.png But with the St. Patrick's Cross? Yeah that's a great idea....why not offend half the fucking population?
This is the flag of N Ireland St Patrick Saltire http://wscont2.apps.microsoft.com/winstore/1x/ae4687fd-d8bc-43a4-9905-52a67d494422/Screenshot.222809.1000001.jpg When you want to know about N Ireland, ask someone from N Ireland Sweet home Alab ... Northern Ireland? Say what? Bless your heart, Mr. Bradders, but I believe that is the flag of the fair state of Alabama, US of fuckin' A. Silly Brits. You deserve Scotland! I don't know the fuck about buttock Alabama, bit that is the official flag of N Ireland .jpg/220px-Edinburgh_tattoo_Patrick's_Cross_for_N_Ireland_(crop).jpg)
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Posted: 9/18/2014 5:59:10 PM EDT
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Just got home, wanted to watch results...and my power is out. Fuckin storms.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 6:10:07 PM EDT
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Just got home, wanted to watch results...and my power is out. Fuckin storms. Nothing much happening at the moment. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 6:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'd THINK a fellow Brit would KNOW!!!! FFS!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who knows how the actual count will be. You'd THINK a fellow Brit would KNOW!!!! FFS!! County Longford doesn't count as Britain  |
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