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Posted: 9/2/2014 12:44:30 AM EDT
How about a friend or neighbor? My 19 year old daughter says she doesn't ever want to have kids. It doesn't bother me or my wife one bit. It's her life and she's free to do whatever she wants.

The reason I asked about a friend or neighbor; a buddy of mine got married a few years ago. He's about 30 and his wife about 33 or so, I don't remember. He says neither of them ever wants to have kids. When he told me that, he asked me if that offended me. I told him it would be fucking stupid of me to get offended for something like that. He then says that a co-worker asked him once "I heard you got married. When are you gonna have kids?"  My buddy told him "Never. We don't want kids"  The co-worker got visibly upset and was inquiring why he didn't want to have kids. It's none of his fucking business why his co-worker doesn't want to have kids.

BTW, I posted this thread after reading The Pontificator's thread here
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:46:10 AM EDT
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I'm 29 and I don't want to have kids.   So no I would not be offended.

But of course, with thoughts like this, Idiocracy keeps coming true.  All the single moms and rednecks keep reproducing stupid kids.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:47:47 AM EDT
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Not at all.
Would never happen though because my plan is to never have kids too.

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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.













I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:50:57 AM EDT
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I would wonder what happened to her, but it wouldn't "bother" me.  

A 19 y/o doesn't know what she wants.   The decision means more at 38.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:51:31 AM EDT
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I'm 40, married for 9 of the 16 years my wife and I have been together and don't have or want kids. If we did, we would've had them long before now.
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Not having kids is the most prudent decision a modern American could make.

I'd commend my never going to exist child.
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My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.
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I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  










Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:54:52 AM EDT
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I'm not having kids, and if my parents are offended, I don't give a shit...


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I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  


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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.



I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  





Hah, no shit!  "Son, I love you, but I never wanted you.  Thanks for being a burden"
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:56:45 AM EDT
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If you don't think your line coming to an end matters, I guess it doesn't.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:57:51 AM EDT
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The wife and I made that decision before we got hitched. We both have our reasons.

Have run into the same sort of festering assholes, that seem to think everyone should squirt out kids like a vending machine.
Some have been so forward as to ask "Don't you think that is really selfish?" or "You must have a really empty and meaningless life?".

Your Daughter is going to learn that a good number of people on this planet, are friggin' loons.







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Hah, no shit!  "Son, I love you, but I never wanted you.  Thanks for being a burden"
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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.



I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  





Hah, no shit!  "Son, I love you, but I never wanted you.  Thanks for being a burden"

Did I ever fucking say he was a burden?

Perhaps you should've read the bottom part of my post.

Telling a child when he's older that he wasn't planned isn't a bad thing, in fact, it might make someone reconsider things like using protection when he's a teen.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:58:26 AM EDT
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I wouldn't be "offended".



I AM lucky though that my spawn all seem to be determined to reproduce



I can't  begin to comprehend the levels of happiness my GD is reaching here lol






Link Posted: 9/2/2014 12:59:37 AM EDT
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I have enjoyed the hell outta my 4 kids.  But, I never thought about having them until Mrs. Drsalee told me to.

Mine have turned out fine, thus far......but it is a crap shoot.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:02:18 AM EDT
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I was last of my line until my sons were born. I didn't have them to carry on our line, I had them because after 36 years of being wholly self-centered I *wanted* to have some kids.

Now, though, I wouldn't be offended if they didn't want kids but, I won't pretend I wouldn't feel a bit let down. With 2 sons I have a great opportunity to start branching out our family tree again. Maybe for generations to come. The thought is pretty neat, to me.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:03:42 AM EDT
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I never wanted kids. Too much trouble and money.

Now I have a kid coming, and I'm thrilled. I already want another one and this one isn't even born yet.

Doing my part to keep my line going and fighting against the FSA. But I won't be offended if people don't want kids. Now I just think they're mentally retarded.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:04:31 AM EDT
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It doesn't matter at all to me. My dad only had two brothers, and between them had three boys. 2 are fat and ugly, I mean arfcom fat. To the point where they might never get married, and that's assuming they like women. The third one I think is normal looking, I wouldn't know. I haven't seen him in over 20-25 years. I couldn't care less about that stuff.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:05:21 AM EDT
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My line?
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:05:27 AM EDT
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The wife and I made that decision before we got hitched. We both have our reasons.

Have run into the same sort of festering assholes, that seem to think everyone should squirt out kids like a vending machine.
Some have been so forward as to ask "Don't you think that is really selfish?" or "You must have a really empty and meaningless life?".

Your Daughter is going to learn that a good number of people on this planet, are friggin' loons.







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Yep. This one shithead that was giving my buddy a hard time is a weirdo. He reminds me a lot of Ned Flanders.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:07:18 AM EDT
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Yep. This one shithead that was giving my buddy a hard time is a weirdo. He reminds me a lot of Ned Flanders.
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The wife and I made that decision before we got hitched. We both have our reasons.

Have run into the same sort of festering assholes, that seem to think everyone should squirt out kids like a vending machine.
Some have been so forward as to ask "Don't you think that is really selfish?" or "You must have a really empty and meaningless life?".

Your Daughter is going to learn that a good number of people on this planet, are friggin' loons.









Yep. This one shithead that was giving my buddy a hard time is a weirdo. He reminds me a lot of Ned Flanders.


Mr. Ned Flanders and all his kids vote, or will vote. And they outnumber you. And they probably vote Democrat.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:07:42 AM EDT
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OP, No I would be far from offended if my daughter said that! Let alone a friend or neighbor.

The wife and I have been married since 1998 and have been harped on having kids since 1999, by both the inlaws and some random folks. I remember at a get together one couple pulled the selfish card for not having children( I politely handed their ass to them in that conversation).

As the time went by, the wife and I wanted to have A child. In 2010 we were blessed with a beautiful girl!

It was on our terms, not the mouth piece that is family or society!
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:08:02 AM EDT
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The wife and I made that decision before we got hitched. We both have our reasons.

Have run into the same sort of festering assholes, that seem to think everyone should squirt out kids like a vending machine.
Some have been so forward as to ask "Don't you think that is really selfish?" or "You must have a really empty and meaningless life?".

Your Daughter is going to learn that a good number of people on this planet, are friggin' loons.







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We got this all the time from our parents when we were in our mid-20's.

Really? Selfish?  We were in Germany for 6 years.  We enjoyed ourselves.  I'm sorry we didn't stop having experiences others may never have just so we could push out kids so you had bragging rights on your friends who didn't have grand kids, or had them when they were in their late 30's.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:09:55 AM EDT
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I never wanted kids until I met my now wife. When I got with her she had a 3 year old little girl. That girl is my pride, we shoot, fish and she is now starting home schooling at 5. I am doing everything I can to make sure that girl as one hell of a childhood that she can be proud of.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:10:17 AM EDT
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Not a week goes by that I don't question why I brought kids into this world!

Don't get me wrong, I love my kids, and cherish every moment with them. Also glad I had them 99% of the time!

I will support their choice no matter what it is!
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:10:43 AM EDT
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OP, No I would be far from offended if my daughter said that! Let alone a friend or neighbor.

The wife and I have been married since 1998 and have been harped on having kids since 1999, by both the inlaws and some random folks. I remember at a get together one couple pulled the selfish card for not having children( I politely handed their ass to them in that conversation).

As the time went by, the wife and I wanted to have A child. In 2010 we were blessed with a beautiful girl!

It was on our terms, not the mouth piece that is family or society!
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I will damn sure give you this one. We got hammered by idiots for years. The one on the way was a mutual decision.  One we made without anyone else's input.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:11:48 AM EDT
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I didn't want kids. I was determined to live a life of pure selfish awesomeness. That all changed a little after "I'm pregnant" and "bullfuckingshit you are"

- When I think of a married couple without kids, I usually assume they can't have kids. Not that they don't want them.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:14:45 AM EDT
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Me and the wife really have no desire for any at this point and time. I'm 30 she 28. I have 2 much younger siblings and have felt like I've already been there done with divorced parents I have taken them to and from school almost as much as any parent along with lots of baby sitting as the rents figured themselves out. So ya not all that interested.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:18:54 AM EDT
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Did I ever fucking say he was a burden?

Perhaps you should've read the bottom part of my post.

Telling a child when he's older that he wasn't planned isn't a bad thing, in fact, it might make someone reconsider things like using protection when he's a teen.
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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.



I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  





Hah, no shit!  "Son, I love you, but I never wanted you.  Thanks for being a burden"

Did I ever fucking say he was a burden?

Perhaps you should've read the bottom part of my post.

Telling a child when he's older that he wasn't planned isn't a bad thing, in fact, it might make someone reconsider things like using protection when he's a teen.


Your life, your kid, your decision.

But it's a fucked up and horrible thing to tell any child.  

That's an objective fact.  

Think, before you spew.    Verbally.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 1:33:30 AM EDT
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I will damn sure give you this one. We got hammered by idiots for years. The one on the way was a mutual decision.  One we made without anyone else's input.
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OP, No I would be far from offended if my daughter said that! Let alone a friend or neighbor.

The wife and I have been married since 1998 and have been harped on having kids since 1999, by both the inlaws and some random folks. I remember at a get together one couple pulled the selfish card for not having children( I politely handed their ass to them in that conversation).

As the time went by, the wife and I wanted to have A child. In 2010 we were blessed with a beautiful girl!

It was on our terms, not the mouth piece that is family or society!


I will damn sure give you this one. We got hammered by idiots for years. The one on the way was a mutual decision.  One we made without anyone else's input.

Much respect! Thank you! It is your life to live not theirs! My father reminded me of this. All in good time!
Also congrats on the incoming child Sweptvolume, glad it was on your terms as well!
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Your life, your kid, your decision.

But it's a fucked up and horrible thing to tell any child.  

That's an objective fact.  

Think, before you spew.    Verbally.
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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.



I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  





Hah, no shit!  "Son, I love you, but I never wanted you.  Thanks for being a burden"

Did I ever fucking say he was a burden?

Perhaps you should've read the bottom part of my post.

Telling a child when he's older that he wasn't planned isn't a bad thing, in fact, it might make someone reconsider things like using protection when he's a teen.


Your life, your kid, your decision.

But it's a fucked up and horrible thing to tell any child.  

That's an objective fact.  

Think, before you spew.    Verbally.

I agree that it would be fucked up, if on one drunken rage, I told him that he was the worst mistake I ever fucking made and left it at that.

However, it is his right to know that he wasn't planned at all, and his mother and father had to make Major lifestyle changes to ensure that when he came into this world, he'd at least have a step up on the trailer trash because his parents jumped into loving him unconditionally the moment he kicked mom's belly while I had some outlaw country playing.

I was the result of a failure of an IUD.  I knew that from middle school.  Knowing that made me more determined to make my folks as proud as I could with my life choices.  My folks didn't sugar coat shit for me, didn't beat me, just pushed me to be what I wanted to be and be the best that I could be at that vocation.  I plan on using that same "hangups and.... failures?" that I had before my son was born as teaching points.

Hey, little Everett, you know how things are going good for you right now, life's curve ball is coming.  Let me tell you  how some anon thought I was a failure, so you can be shacked by that.

Or, my little cuss will live his life with two parents who love him very much, even when he's doing that toddler tantrum and sleep regression while the wife is going back to school for continuing ed credits that helps her bring in $, and dad doesn't get much more than 4 continuous hours a sleep a night.  

Just because a child wasn't wanted or planned, doesn't mean that the reality of that child will make bad parents.  

Some of us take the new challenges and stressors the world gives us and rock that shit better than the "I'm going to have n children by this age" crowd.  I'm hoping to have it figured out and my son never in prison by the time he's 18.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 3:42:30 AM EDT
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LP and I are both early 20's and we do not want any kids.
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I've got seven brothers and one sister. Between them I have over 20 nieces and nephews. My family line isn't going away anytime soon.

I won't have any kids because I'm a cripple and have genetic problems that could be passed on. It wouldn't be fair for any potential child to have me as a father.
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I've got seven brothers and one sister. Between them I have over 20 nieces and nephews. My family line isn't going away anytime soon.



I won't have any kids because I'm a cripple and have genetic problems that could be passed on. It wouldn't be fair for any potential child to have me as a father.
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If you don't think your line coming to an end matters, I guess it doesn't.




I've got seven brothers and one sister. Between them I have over 20 nieces and nephews. My family line isn't going away anytime soon.



I won't have any kids because I'm a cripple and have genetic problems that could be passed on. It wouldn't be fair for any potential child to have me as a father.


There are a ton of kids/babies out there that need adoptive homes.  Just sayin'.  One of my friends adopted a baby from Guatemala.  He's 10 now.



My wife and I have a combined IQ close to 350 (143 for me, 200+ for her).  While we always wanted kids, part of the motivation was that we also felt we needed to have kids to help combat the Idiocracy crowd.  



 
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Great kids .... yours I guess???

Somewhere I have pics from 26 years ago ...... my oldest son sat down with one of those tubs of 250 diaper wipes.

He pulled them all out when nobody was looking and the funny part was watching his try to stuff them back in.

Kids are what life is all about.



Would it offend me if someone doesn't want to have children?

No, not at all.

Being a parent takes special skills, not everyone has them and for those people there are cats and dogs.









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I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  

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Nope.

My son will eventually know that my wife and I didn't want to have kids, we just disregarded that whole "protection" thing one too many times.

I wouldn't trade him for all the .22 in the world now.  He may be a PITA 18 month old, but he's MY PITA 18 month old.



I hope you aren't serious.

You might think it's cute, but it's fucked up and wrong.  You should reconsider.    Don't shackle your children with your own hangups and failures,  




I was sort of thinking the same then when I read that post.



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Really? Selfish?  


Want to know where the question about being "selfish" comes from?

When you express this .......

Quoted: We enjoyed ourselves.


It sort of says " we are selfishly enjoying ourselves and do not want to share each other with any offspring ".



I found the smart thing was to tell my parents ...... " When we are ready, things will happen. "

Wife and I have three wonderful children ....... but not before we were both over the age of 30 !!!!!!!!

Immature people should not be parents ...... we wanted to be sure we were right for the job.


ETA: You are NEVER really ready to have children....they just come.

Wife and I had it all figured out .... we both had good jobs with nice income.

We were comfortable in our lives and were ready to share it with children.

First son was born and 6 months later my company shut down.    OOPS!!!!

So what did we do?

Had ANOTHER child!  

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If I never wanted to have children of my own .... I would never have gotten married to begin with.

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My mom told me when I was 14 that I wasn't planned, and that my conception was actually a mistake.

That taught me that not all mistakes, or slip ups are terrible, but I should still be careful anyway.

JohnnyCarcinogen, I agree with your decision. Good on you for being honest to your kid, in the future. I'm glad my mom was honest with me.
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Have 5 kids probably will have more. No I do not get offended, but I do encourage some people and discourage others. I 100% behind liberal not having kids but I encourage freedom loving peoples to have as many kids as they can. If I try to encourage someone to have kids then it is a compliment because it means I think highly of them.
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Not at all.
Would never happen though because my plan is to never have kids too.

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So that's why you haven't had any 2 person sex for the last 12 years?
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I'm 30 and have no kids. Never been married either. I didn't really plan things to go one way or the other. Just happened this way.

I wouldn't be offended.
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I have two brothers, both in their 40's.  One has a daughter, the other has no kids with no plans for any.  

My family brought it up at one Thanksgiving dinner...I am the last of the family name.  

While I was growing up, I hated kids and wanted nothing to do with them.  When I turned 24, I had a change of heart.  For the last 3 years, there's nothing more I wanted than to have a kid of my own.  The thing is, I can't find anyone stupid enough to date me...much less get married and have a kid with me

My mom wants grand kids so bad...
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My father was offended until the last day of his life, his brothers son died young and I'm last of the line too bad. I was adopted anyway so WTF does it matter.
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No.
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What's going to happen is going to happen.
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Sigh......I guess there is more ways than one to starve the beast.......Just quit having kids that are likely to grow-up as producers.
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How about a friend or neighbor? My 19 year old daughter says she doesn't ever want to have kids. It doesn't bother me or my wife one bit. It's her life and she's free to do whatever she wants.

The reason I asked about a friend or neighbor; a buddy of mine got married a few years ago. He's about 30 and his wife about 33 or so, I don't remember. He says neither of them ever wants to have kids. When he told me that, he asked me if that offended me. I told him it would be fucking stupid of me to get offended for something like that. He then says that a co-worker asked him once "I heard you got married. When are you gonna have kids?"  My buddy told him "Never. We don't want kids"  The co-worker got visibly upset and was inquiring why he didn't want to have kids. It's none of his fucking business why his co-worker doesn't want to have kids.

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Just make sure she's thought it through all the way prior to making any real, final decisions. If she has, cool.
Link Posted: 9/2/2014 7:10:48 AM EDT
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If my children don't have offspring, how will I have grandchildren that look like me?

This is very important to me so if my children can't produce grand-children I'd likely quit talking to them.
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