If your backdrop is a crowd of innocent people and you shoot like an average LEO, then hell yes you should!

Silhouette targets.  

Was the officers background (in this case) a crowd of innocent people?

I wish folks would take half a second and find out the facts about this, instead of going off half-cocked like, say, a liberal in Fergudishu.

Bad guy was hit with 3 bullets, not six, not eight, not nine, etc.  I don't know, and have not seen any reports of, how many shots the cop fired.  But he had 3 hits.

That's not what the coroner said on Hannity the other day.

Which coroner?  There are six gunshot wounds, but they were caused by three bullets.


The second one, not the original and not the family one.

Said there (iirc) six bullets and more than six wounds. Some re-entries. Some exits.

I've no idea what the truth is. Just relating what the man said. If I'm mis-remembering, I apologize in advance.

At least 6 times according to the New York  Slimes that they report that is in  a preliminary autopsy report.  All gun shots striking Brown came from the front, which I believe corroborates the officer's account that Brown reversed his direction to come back at the officer.


http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/08/18/us/SUB-JP-BROWN-2/SUB-JP-BROWN-2-master495.jpg

"FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.  ..." -snip-

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=2

And again - six gunshot wounds does not mean he was shot six times. As noted on the diagram, there are entry, re-entry, and exit wounds.  All of the right arm wounds are believed to be from the same bullet.  Another bullet was in through the eye, down through the jaw, and into the collarbone.  The third bullet was to the top of the head.


9 holes by my count. Those were very busy bullets.

No (at least not that I know of), which is why I'm not complaining about the number of rounds this officer fired. My posts have been referring to average LEO accuracy (which is rather dismal) and the risk they run of hitting innocent bystanders. If you can shoot the bad guy 1,000 times without hitting anyone else, go for it. If you only fire two rounds, but one of them kills innocent little Timmy on his tricycle, FOAD, it was one too many.

Or the attacker was charging with his right side forward, right arm raised about forehead level, back of wrist against or near forehead, body bent towards the officer. This would explain why the shots were in the right side of the body, instead of more centered.

ME too...



 

If the perp charged with head lowered and partially blocked with right arm up, it is easy to see how the head shot happened.

eye is fucked up, just been beaten in the car, punk is running at him, cut him some slack he did fine.

ah.
such diversity.

LOL. Rush Limburger is NOT, repeat, NOT a "news outlet", a reporter or by ANY stretch of the imagination, a credible news source.He is an entertainer.  I suggest  a sampling of news sources, critically evaluating them to try and discern the truth.

Every one here knows what happened.

I don't know what happened. But if the officer got his face broken by this guy and managed to shoot him dead despite his injuries, I say good.

So just because i dont have that icon it means i didnt serve?  

You might want to be careful here, I served and so did my other Family members here and none of us sent in our DD 214 to get the tank, part lazy and part I was in the Navy so until they get a Ship Icon, no thanks  



 

Then what was the point of bringing it up?



I was talking about THIS officer in THIS situation.  

Regardless of that, I still don't agree with your assertion....completely.  I agree that a backdrop should be a consideration, thus the reason for it being one of the four cardinal firearm rules.....for everyone, not just cops.  But I don't agree that there is a certain number where it becomes too many rounds.  If you risk hitting someone innocent, don't take the fucking shot.  Of course there are exceptions to this and sometimes you must take the risk to mitigate the loss that is imminent.  Personally I'm not taking the shot unless I'm sure of it and I'm not risking innocent lives.

But to say that deadly force is met and the officer is justified in shooting three times but not four is quite ridiculous.

Hes a 13er. Carry on.

YEAH !

Like MSNBC and CNN and REV. Jessie Jackson.......?

Perhaps the Gov. of MO?

Oh, I know, Don Lemon, or Al Sharpton.........Those bastions of truth and justice.

Years ago a lot of cops were not winning, dominating or getting shot in gunfights that a pretty vocal part of the training community said came from being ingrained in training to shot single shots and doubles in standard firearms qualification.  A lot of average regular Joe's were shooting what they were programmed to do through repetition in training.  Bang-Bang, "oh shit why is he shooting at me!!".    

A lot more emphasis now on shooting until the threat is down or no longer a threat.  FATS/Simulators, Force on Force/Simunitions and realistic shooting courses outside of qualification (really a demonstration of applying proper technique to assess the ability of the shooter to meet a minimum or higher passing score under a time limit) have addressed the reality that some gunfights may be over in one round and some may be over when your at the bottom of your magazine or even after reloading.  

Looks like bulletandgrunt hit the right nerve.

Yep. Just another mouth breather that was more then happy to move to America, then immediately tries to change our culture to be more like the one he left.

Yep, if as told, that is one hard muther fucking Hombre, and he deserves our respect.

It seems like a good shoot to me, someone smashes your face, you shoot them.

Cop is probably fucked regardless, though. Even if he gets no-billed, or indicted and acquitted, the DOJ is gonna go after him.

Our government would never do that, double jeopardy and all that, Holder truly respects the Constitution,.......doesn't he? well does he? ...........oh, never mind.

There is precedent, think Rodney King.

we see alot of wounds with entries into the head and shoulders, they are usually the result of shots being fired and the patient falling over or bending over from being hit.

not uncommon at all. just because you bend over and go "OUCH" from a GSW doesn't mean you are out of the fight or looking to tag out to your team mate.
from what I have seen and the people I have worked on- when LEO"s fire, they really pull off some fast trigger times. several casings flying.

You don't think Holder will build on other's actions?

Nicely played.

The cop will be fine and found NG, then we gonna see some riots.

*singing* That's why I say hey man nice shot...What a good shot man...

Last night on Hannity, the Brown family attorney claimed Officer Wilson was a bad shot.  Skip to 4:30 if you don't want to watch the entire clip.

a conservative black female that is a student of alternative metal.
you never cease to amaze...

I wonder if in the car struggle the cop had his head beat on the cage and that is how his eye socket was broken.
That is deadly force if so?

I was wondering why he pulled all those shots left.  Makes sense now.

considering stress, considering his wound, considering target running at him, and that he stayed on target pretty good if you ask me.

I love Filter!! But I love most Alternative...Heck I like a lot of metal...

Not criticizing, just wondering why consistently left.  Usually you see shots all over the place.

I suspect that according to the diagram he shot consistently centered, that the gremlin had his arms outstretched to grab a hold of the shooter, this would have placed the arm in front of his body, the coups de grace was at the last split second when he was able to regain his center while shooting point blank. Considering the circumstances, fine shooting, damn fine shooting, too bad his dash cam was not working, it would be a shooting for the academy, a good instructional vid on the importance of stress shooting and the necessity of being prepared for every shooting situation.Even an apparently unarmed subject is capable of killing you, how you respond to the threat will mean your life or death.  He stayed cool apparently and stayed focused, he is one tough guy.

In the last month or so, I have seen 4 separate stories about people being beaten to death on my local news (nyc). In 3 of those killings, the victim was only struck once.

And that "child" was what, 6'2", 250 lbs?

Again, good shoot, and I hope the officer stays out of prison.

Try 6' 4" and closer to 320, or so I've heard.

A lot harder than most people expect.