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Posted: 8/1/2014 8:04:16 AM EDT
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View Quote still can't stop thinking about clinton huh? well, he does have hypnotic eyes. hope he is gentle. on the astroturf in the back of his el camino. |
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still can't stop thinking about clinton huh? well, he does have hypnotic eyes. hope he is gentle. on the astroturf in the back of his el camino. View Quote Saw that this was trending on facebook, so I read it. Good to know what the morons are consuming. And yes, still thinking about Clinton. You may not have heard, but his wife is thinking about running in 2016..which is what makes stories like this important. But keep on doing what you do. It's so adorable and not at all predictable. |
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of.
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passed on one chance because he didn't want to interupt the football game he was watching
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More pro-clinton crap surfacing as Hillary tries to take the next election. Barf.
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I hated Clinton.
However, he was in Australia, so that isn't made up. I have no idea about the speech, but if it isn't true, I bet that surfaces now that it seems to be exploding all over the web. ( I did a few searches to see where Bush sent the plane to pick him up after the attacks. I remember that he was out of the country.) I watched a long interview with him once about this subject. He was either well briefed and knew a lot of shit and tried really hard to get bin laden, or he completely made up a lot of shit that sounded really good. Take that for what it is worth. |
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Quoted: I hated Clinton. However, he was in Australia, so that isn't made up. I have no idea about the speech, but if it isn't true, I bet that surfaces now that it seems to be exploding all over the web. ( I did a few searches to see where Bush sent the plane to pick him up after the attacks. I remember that he was out of the country.) I watched a long interview with him once about this subject. He was either well briefed and knew a lot of shit and tried really hard to get bin laden, or he completely made up a lot of shit that sounded really good. Take that for what it is worth. View Quote |
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. View Quote There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. |
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Saw that this was trending on facebook, so I read it. Good to know what the morons are consuming. And yes, still thinking about Clinton. You may not have heard, but his wife is thinking about running in 2016..which is what makes stories like this important. But keep on doing what you do. It's so adorable and not at all predictable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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still can't stop thinking about clinton huh? well, he does have hypnotic eyes. hope he is gentle. on the astroturf in the back of his el camino. Saw that this was trending on facebook, so I read it. Good to know what the morons are consuming. And yes, still thinking about Clinton. You may not have heard, but his wife is thinking about running in 2016..which is what makes stories like this important. But keep on doing what you do. It's so adorable and not at all predictable. hey thanks. bill is not his wife. what's next? gossip on chelsea? like OMG is she still pregnant? somehow i am reminded of those nancy-pants liberals who can't stop whining about bush years after he left office, but hey, just for the sake of predictability, FBHO. plus the secret hand sign. |
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Quoted: There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. |
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There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. Yep we had UBL within a few hundred feet of capture on an oil tanker in 95. But the Fast team was recalled. |
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I guess the point where I diverge from troofers is that I refuse to make unscientific bullshit up and I refuse to attribute to malice what can be attributed to hubris, incompetence, or being too busy nailing interns to notice the world turning around you. That leaves me with the conclusion that Clinton and his administration were too busy obfuscating the philandering to pay the needed attention to AQ more or less setting up 9/11 out in the open. Add in a lack of agency crosstalk, dick waving instead of cooperation, and it becomes pretty obvious that 9/11 was the result of an intelligence failure or failure to act on intelligence instead of some mastermind terrorist outsmarting everyone. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. I'm going with failure to act. |
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I hated Clinton. However, he was in Australia, so that isn't made up. I have no idea about the speech, but if it isn't true, I bet that surfaces now that it seems to be exploding all over the web. ( I did a few searches to see where Bush sent the plane to pick him up after the attacks. I remember that he was out of the country.) I watched a long interview with him once about this subject. He was either well briefed and knew a lot of shit and tried really hard to get bin laden, or he completely made up a lot of shit that sounded really good. Take that for what it is worth. View Quote One of two things going on here (In my opinion) 1) He did make these comments that day in Australia, and they chose not to use them in '08. 2) They've made it up now because they think it will help Hillary run. Either way, the only reason this is a story now is the Clintons think it can help them in some way. I tend to lean towards option 2, but it's always possible this is real and they just haven't felt like it would help them out to release/make a big deal out of until now. |
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Yep we had UBL within a few hundred feet of capture on an oil tanker in 95. But the Fast team was recalled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. Yep we had UBL within a few hundred feet of capture on an oil tanker in 95. But the Fast team was recalled. I can picture the guys face but can't recall his name but he said they had a team in Afganistan with crosshairs on UBL and were told not shoot. I want to say his first name is Mike and he always had a trimmed beard. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. No kidding. |
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I didn't read the story but, yeah, I believe it. He did blow up them camels in Asscrackistan, remember? The cruise missiles he sent were AQ had been like two weeks before?
I bet GW regretted Torah Bora and letting OBL slip into Pakiland. Oh well, Navy SEALs shot him through the fucking eye then dumped mags into him. |
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I can picture the guys face but can't recall his name but he said they had a team in Afganistan with crosshairs on UBL and were told not shoot. I want to say his first name is Mike and he always had a trimmed beard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The government only had since 1992 to kill him and KSM. It's not like 9/11 jumped up out of nowhere planned and committed by people no one had ever heard of. There was a guy on the talk show circuits many years ago that was the head of some wing of the CIA for terrorist hunting that said Clinton was presented with 13 kill/capture opportunities on UBL and he turned all of them down. Clinton wanted the Nobel Peace Prize and knew if he killed UBL he would not get it. Yep we had UBL within a few hundred feet of capture on an oil tanker in 95. But the Fast team was recalled. I can picture the guys face but can't recall his name but he said they had a team in Afganistan with crosshairs on UBL and were told not shoot. I want to say his first name is Mike and he always had a trimmed beard. Pete Blaber writes about planning several missions to snatch OBL in the 90s. None got the go-ahead obviously. It's a good read and covers Anaconda in depth. |
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Saw that this was trending on facebook, so I read it. Good to know what the morons are consuming. And yes, still thinking about Clinton. You may not have heard, but his wife is thinking about running in 2016..which is what makes stories like this important. But keep on doing what you do. It's so adorable and not at all predictable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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still can't stop thinking about clinton huh? well, he does have hypnotic eyes. hope he is gentle. on the astroturf in the back of his el camino. Saw that this was trending on facebook, so I read it. Good to know what the morons are consuming. And yes, still thinking about Clinton. You may not have heard, but his wife is thinking about running in 2016..which is what makes stories like this important. But keep on doing what you do. It's so adorable and not at all predictable. I knew exactly who you quoted without looking. Well, I knew it was him or Snips. |
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On Fox News Friday, Geraldo Rivera got into it with former CIA official Michael Scheuer over newly surfaced recordings of former president Bill Clinton, in which he claims the day before 9/11 that he could have killed Osama bin Laden.
In the tapes, Clinton says the reason he didn’t go in for the kill is that he would have had to “destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him (bin Laden).” Scheuer, identified as head of CIA’s bin Laden unit 1995-1999, disputed Clinton’s recollection. He said the attack on bin Laden “would have occurred in the middle of the night” and “it would have killed no one but Taliban people and Osama bin Laden and his crew.” Scheuer took a shot at Clinton, saying, “if you looked up the word ‘lie’ his face (Clinton’s) would be right next to it.” He also claimed that he was fired from CBS after he bad mouthed Clinton. Rivera was then brought in to discuss. He said Scheuer is “mixing and conflating intelligence with his own ideological spin.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-cia-officer-battles-dummy-clown-geraldo-over-new-clinton-bin-laden-tapes/ This is the guy I was talking about. |
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I remember Bubba. When the heat was one, he'd launch a cruise missile and say it taught our enemy a lesson.
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Our gov't has had many chances to kill Bin Laden. They obviously didn't think it was worth it at the time. There's a lot of assholes all over the world that "might" do something bad in the future that we could kill right now, all you can do is look at them and decide how likely it is they will do something and weigh it against the fallout from killing them.
I think it was Billy Waugh that recounted performing surveillance on OBL in the 90's? He was sitting on a building across the street, watching him plain as day. It's been a while since I read Hunting the Jackal but I want to say he tried to get permission to kill him but it was denied. I'm sure that happened with other people at other times. |
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Quoted: Our gov't has had many chances to kill Bin Laden. They obviously didn't think it was worth it at the time. There's a lot of assholes all over the world that "might" do something bad in the future that we could kill right now, all you can do is look at them and decide how likely it is they will do something and weigh it against the fallout from killing them. I think it was Billy Waugh that recounted performing surveillance on OBL in the 90's? He was sitting on a building across the street, watching him plain as day. It's been a while since I read Hunting the Jackal but I want to say he tried to get permission to kill him but it was denied. I'm sure that happened with other people at other times. View Quote Yup, could have easily killed him when he was living in Khartoum. |
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More pro-clinton crap surfacing as Hillary tries to take the next election. Barf. View Quote No, more like getting all of their old crap out in the open before Hillary announces her candidacy. It's definitely negative that Clinton had a chance to kill UBL before 9/11 and didn't do it. By making it public knowledge now, it becomes old news during the campaign instead of an issue. More battlespace preparation for 2016. |
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No, more like getting all of their old crap out in the open before Hillary announces her candidacy. It's definitely negative that Clinton had a chance to kill UBL before 9/11 and didn't do it. By making it public knowledge now, it becomes old news during the campaign instead of an issue. More battlespace preparation for 2016. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More pro-clinton crap surfacing as Hillary tries to take the next election. Barf. No, more like getting all of their old crap out in the open before Hillary announces her candidacy. It's definitely negative that Clinton had a chance to kill UBL before 9/11 and didn't do it. By making it public knowledge now, it becomes old news during the campaign instead of an issue. More battlespace preparation for 2016. Or trying to rebuild the Clinton brand for public speaking. Right now they both need to sharpen their brand image to get paid gigs fundraising for candidates, and in 2 years they will have to compete against Obama. This could play either way. |
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No, more like getting all of their old crap out in the open before Hillary announces her candidacy. It's definitely negative that Clinton had a chance to kill UBL before 9/11 and didn't do it. By making it public knowledge now, it becomes old news during the campaign instead of an issue. More battlespace preparation for 2016. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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More pro-clinton crap surfacing as Hillary tries to take the next election. Barf. No, more like getting all of their old crap out in the open before Hillary announces her candidacy. It's definitely negative that Clinton had a chance to kill UBL before 9/11 and didn't do it. By making it public knowledge now, it becomes old news during the campaign instead of an issue. More battlespace preparation for 2016. And also paints him in a positive light for not doing it..." Oh, I didn't want to hurt civilians so I'm better than Osama". |
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On Fox News Friday, Geraldo Rivera got into it with former CIA official Michael Scheuer over newly surfaced recordings of former president Bill Clinton, in which he claims the day before 9/11 that he could have killed Osama bin Laden. In the tapes, Clinton says the reason he didn’t go in for the kill is that he would have had to “destroy a little town called Kandahar in Afghanistan and kill 300 innocent women and children, and then I would have been no better than him (bin Laden).” Scheuer, identified as head of CIA’s bin Laden unit 1995-1999, disputed Clinton’s recollection. He said the attack on bin Laden “would have occurred in the middle of the night” and “it would have killed no one but Taliban people and Osama bin Laden and his crew.” Scheuer took a shot at Clinton, saying, “if you looked up the word ‘lie’ his face (Clinton’s) would be right next to it.” He also claimed that he was fired from CBS after he bad mouthed Clinton. Rivera was then brought in to discuss. He said Scheuer is “mixing and conflating intelligence with his own ideological spin.” http://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-cia-officer-battles-dummy-clown-geraldo-over-new-clinton-bin-laden-tapes/ This is the guy I was talking about. View Quote Clinton is a known liar and perjurer. |
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While it would have been nice for him to have never relished in the 9/11 attacks, it's my guess that killing him wouldn't have stopped AQ from doing what they did.
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Billy Waugh is the man!! Spent a few years in out of the way places.
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He wasn't regretting not killing Bin Laden. He was bragging he was too concerned with collateral damage to kill him. Amazing he said it the day before his chickens came home to roost, as Jeremiah Wright would say.
I remember Clinton saying after 9/11 that the terrorists struck us because of our history of slavery. I also recall him regretting there was no war for him to lead during his presidency.
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Remember you have to parse Clinton
could be tens of thousands of hours before |
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Another story designed to take the spotlight of shame off the current retard and chief
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