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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:50:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 6:59:24 PM EDT
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FBHO and FJV
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:00:12 PM EDT
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He fails to mention that the suit was started when Kyle was still alive.  Ventura asked Kyle to withdraw the false information and he would drop the law suit and Kyle refused.  Kyle lied, get over it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:01:41 PM EDT
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Ventura is a pussy. Get over it.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:03:07 PM EDT
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Yeah we all get it that Marcus is a badass too.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:04:19 PM EDT
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I'd be pissed if my book had made up stories in it too.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:05:02 PM EDT
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If you kick his butt just make sure someone videos it.

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Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:08:03 PM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:12:18 PM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.


Lawsuit started before Kyle's death-yes that is true.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:12:32 PM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.

Even if you're correct it's still a shitbird thing to do. Don't fuck with a dead man's family.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:12:55 PM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?





 
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:13:02 PM EDT
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Ventura was a huge douche long before Kyle ever decided to write a book.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:29:14 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.


I suggest you prove anything you said is accurate.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:33:30 AM EDT
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Well then sue for one dollar then. If Ventura is trying to clear his name, after the poor guy dies, a real man changes his requested damages to ONE DOLLAR.
Now Ventura just looks like an idiot, which I would presume he was trying to avoid. I guess he really is an idiot.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:38:42 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.


I suggest you prove anything you said is accurate.


It's now a matter of public record

I'm curious what else Kyle lied about.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:43:44 AM EDT
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Well then sue for one dollar then. If Ventura is trying to clear his name, after the poor guy dies, a real man changes his requested damages to ONE DOLLAR.
Now Ventura just looks like an idiot, which I would presume he was trying to avoid. I guess he really is an idiot.
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Well then sue for one dollar then. If Ventura is trying to clear his name, after the poor guy dies, a real man changes his requested damages to ONE DOLLAR.
Now Ventura just looks like an idiot, which I would presume he was trying to avoid. I guess he really is an idiot.


I could even accept ventura asking for his attorney fees and not a penny more. seeking "damages" for your reputation from a widow when you've done plenty to destroy it yourself is asinine.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:44:21 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.




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I suggest you prove anything you said is accurate.




It's now a matter of public record



I'm curious what else Kyle lied about.
that 911 was an inside job, done by the Bushes to get Saddam's oil

 
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:50:50 AM EDT
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Kyle admitted to making the story up in a deposition.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:52:44 AM EDT
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Even if you're correct it's still a shitbird thing to do. Don't fuck with a dead man's family.
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.




I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.


Even if you're correct it's still a shitbird thing to do. Don't fuck with a dead man's family.


Who else should this apply to?



 
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 3:55:29 AM EDT
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First, since I haven't said so recently, YES, Janos is a nut job.  I've said before I wish he weren't.  I like a lot of what he brings to the table, but yeah, he's off the charts

That being said, has Chris Kyle been ID'd as a truther?

Is arfcom White Knighting a truther???

Or are you just being playful?
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:07:16 AM EDT
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I'm curious what else Kyle lied about.
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


I suggest you do some research in the subject and not be blinded by personal bias.


I suggest you prove anything you said is accurate.


It's now a matter of public record

I'm curious what else Kyle lied about.


Personally I would question anything he ever said on the "honor system" now that he is a known falsifier.

I wonder how many of his "deadliest evar!!!!" Kills weren't confirmed. When we couldn't get a body we assumed they got away. More often than not it was true.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:17:25 AM EDT
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The idea behind a defamation lawsuit is that the story of the bar fight in the book somehow hurt JV's reputation.



Look at his reputation prior to this.




Pro wrestler, bad actor and conspiracy kook.




EVEN if it's a lie - that's not the point. The point was "did it lower JV's reputation" - how anyone could come to the conclusion that his reputation was somehow worse than what he had already done to it before the book came out is beyond me.
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Look at his reputation prior to this.

Pro wrestler, bad actor and conspiracy kook.

EVEN if it's a lie - that's not the point. The point was "did it lower JV's reputation" - how anyone could come to the conclusion that his reputation was somehow worse than what he had already done to it before the book came out is beyond me.
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If anything, this lawsuit has hurt his reputation more than the book.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:19:58 AM EDT
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$1.8 million worth of lies of which $1.3 comes out of the wife's pocketbook.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:20:51 AM EDT
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Looks like this to me.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:20:55 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?
 


Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:24:57 AM EDT
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I guess she choose poorly.
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Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?
 


Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/30/the-complicated-but-unveriable-legacy-of-chris-kyle-the-deadliest-sniper-in-american-history/
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:34:12 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


It was proven in court.  That is how Ventura won the lawsuit.  Kyle admitted lying in a deposition.
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Even if you're correct it's still a shitbird thing to do. Don't fuck with a dead man's family.


Who else should this apply to?

 




 
Credit card companies, mortage companies, car loans, Student Loans, judgements............. all scum because they want money for things you did/said after you die.... according to some.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:37:30 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?
 


Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/30/the-complicated-but-unveriable-legacy-of-chris-kyle-the-deadliest-sniper-in-american-history/


Link says he is (was) "the true American badass".

I winder what Dale Comstock thought of that? lol
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 4:41:58 AM EDT
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The idea behind a defamation lawsuit is that the story of the bar fight in the book somehow hurt JV's reputation.

Look at his reputation prior to this.

Pro wrestler, bad actor and conspiracy kook.

EVEN if it's a lie - that's not the point. The point was "did it lower JV's reputation" - how anyone could come to the conclusion that his reputation was somehow worse than what he had already done to it before the book came out is beyond me.
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Sorry but if someone was telling people in interviews and a book that I said SEALs deserved to die and other things along those lines I would sue their ass to. Kyle should have left that and a few other things out of the book. He could have said he was mistaken and had nothing come of it. Instead he gambled that the public opinion would save him and unfortunately this isn't the case. Its a shit sandwich for everyone involved.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 5:12:33 AM EDT
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He was offered the chance to publicly apologize. He chose not to.



Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 5:19:19 AM EDT
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If anything, this lawsuit has hurt his reputation more than the book.
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Look at his reputation prior to this.

Pro wrestler, bad actor and conspiracy kook.

EVEN if it's a lie - that's not the point. The point was "did it lower JV's reputation" - how anyone could come to the conclusion that his reputation was somehow worse than what he had already done to it before the book came out is beyond me.


If anything, this lawsuit has hurt his reputation more than the book.


I've gotta go with this for 1000, Alex.

Whether or not "Ventura" had actual damage to his reputation due to the book, he sure as shit does now.  I thought he was a kook and discounted him before, now I have no time for him [not that it matters in the long run, but in the aggregate (x of my attitude = loss to books/movies/kook shit) it's going to be a net loss to his estate, imho].

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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?
 

I haven't heard the Katrina story.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 5:28:22 AM EDT
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Indeed.

Who would have thought that Mr. Luttrell would have bought into the bullshit.

I guess being a former SEAL is serious business.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:05:00 AM EDT
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So basically Chris told a lie about Jesse, got caught,  and then Jesse sued because his feelings/ego  was hurt?  I guess it was too much to ask from a guy who wore brightly colored feather boas for decades  to take the high road and drop the whole thing.   I'm aware that the root of all this is lies told by Chris but looks to me Jesse could have helped his reputation a whole lot more by swallowing that pride instead of looking for a check seeing how "This wasn't about the money"
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Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.
You want the bar fight story, the Katrina story, or the CIA takes care of the carjackers story?
 


Yeah, the carjackers one doesn't pass the smell test.  Haven't seen the Katrina one.


Don't forget the Kyle was good buddies with Brandon Webb too....
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:15:29 AM EDT
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Prove he lied.  Prove anything you just said is accurate.


Everyone of his seal buddies who had heard his tall tales and heard them from him?
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:18:52 AM EDT
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Quiet professionals.
All 3 of them.
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:18:59 AM EDT
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how can you damage the reputation of a moron?
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According to the post verdict article posted yesterday, Ventura's attorney said that since Kyle's book made $6, he was asking for $5 to $15 million for the damages the book has caused Ventura.

He should change his name to Jesse Vulture.
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Some of those Jesse memes are pretty funny


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If Jessie wants to retain any shred of dignity he should settle for the vindication of his name and a $1 judgment.
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Indeed.

Who would have thought that Mr. Luttrell would have bought into the bullshit.

I guess being a former SEAL is serious business.
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Indeed.

Who would have thought that Mr. Luttrell would have bought into the bullshit.

I guess being a former SEAL is serious business.


Perhaps not as glamorous as your 'drinking beer in the truck' busts......
Link Posted: 7/30/2014 6:27:39 AM EDT
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Ventura is a fucking nobody. If anyone is hurting his barely existent reputation its him. Had he just kept his mouth shut this wouldnt even be on the radar. Most people would have forgotten all about him by page 87.

Yeah, that conspiracy show did wonders for his rep.
















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It won't work.

All he needed to do was say, "It's not true" at the very beginning, then walk away.

As mentioned above, Jesse doesn't have much credibility to stand on to begin with...
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Perhaps not as glamorous as your 'drinking beer in the truck' busts......
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Indeed.

Who would have thought that Mr. Luttrell would have bought into the bullshit.

I guess being a former SEAL is serious business.



Perhaps not as glamorous as your 'drinking beer in the truck' busts......


HAHAHHAAHAAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAH
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