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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:34:48 PM EDT
hate them. So really if everyone already considers them bloodthirsty murderers, if they are absorbing more than a hundred missiles a day. Then what do the Israelis have to lose if they just totally wipe out Hamas? You poke at the bear long enough and he'll tear your head off, you mess with the lion long enough and the lion will eat you, you tease a gator long enough you'll die a horrible death. So if you're Hamas and you say day after day that you want to kill  all Israelis and all Jews worldwide day after day and you terrorize Israel with over a hundred missiles a day, terrorists popping out of the ground day after day why should you be surprised when Israeli artillery brings your house down around you? Netenyahu and the Knesset should just turn the army loose and finish the job.
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I agree 1000% and after they win expel anyone who hints at causing trouble.
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Yep. The whole world ought to take a cue from them and just flat wipe out all the jihadist and their civilizations. Make it a crime punishable by death to even think about acting like they do.
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I like where this thread is headed.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 6:54:40 PM EDT
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Pthe truth must not be spoken.  It's quite unsavory.
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What could go wrong?
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 6:56:02 PM EDT
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It worked for the Nazi's and the Imperial Bushidoists.
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Is this advice for the Izzy's or the Pali's???

In the "real" world, it's usually whomever has the biggest monster in their corner that wins.

For a few decades America had the biggest. Now obama has emasculated it.
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Turn your TV on.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:07:11 PM EDT
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No arguments there.


That said, what is the solution? The Palis have rejected every peace overture that the Israelis have submitted.


The only thing they will agree to is Israel being wiped out-they will settle for nothing short of that.





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Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:09:28 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/29/2014 7:12:40 PM EDT
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Philosophers philosophicalouslessness makes good slogans but crappy survival guidelines. Nietzsche didn't win very many wars. Win the war, then contemplate Nietzsche and make sure you turn off monster mode.

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They don't wipe them out because they are NOT the same as monsters that are attacking them. Indiscriminate and without remorse.





They are better people that realize there are good, decent people in those areas; and wiping out entire groups of people isn't the right thing to do. They will fight the evil one asshole at a time, and know that they were in the right!
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Israel caused them a little inconvenience today

...Gaza's power plant was forced to shut down after two tank shells hit one of three fuel tanks, said Jamal Dardasawi, a spokesman for Gaza's electricity distribution company. The shelling sparked a large fire and a huge column of smoke was seen rising from the site. Dardasawi said 15 workers were trapped inside by the fire and that the damage would take months to repair. There was no immediate word on casualties.

"The power plant is finished," its director, Mohammed al-Sharif, told Reuters...
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If Israel needs advice from Nietzsche, they are in trouble.


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The problem with that is it's too easy to leave monster mode on because of the next nebulous threat.
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Philosophers philosophicalouslessness makes good slogans but crappy survival guidelines. Nietzsche didn't win very many wars. Win the war, then contemplate Nietzsche and make sure you turn off monster mode.



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I disagree profoundly.


Please expound as to why.  Every warrior has to have the animal inside or he will never win the war.  Its knowing when to turn it off that counts.  And that's usually after the war is finished and won.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:14:59 PM EDT
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You destroy your enemy or you irreparably and permanently damage it, you do it with as few civilian casualties as possible. Hamas has shown that they don't want peace, they have shown that they are OK with indiscriminately shooting rockets in to Israel, they have show what kind of fucked animals they are. They have shown that they are willing to use civilians as shields for their troops and armaments. The Israelis have shown just the opposite. It's time for Israel to take the gloves off and get the job done. I have no doubt about it, the Israelis will not become the monster they fight against.
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Please expound as to why. Every warrior has to have the animal inside or he will never win the war. Its knowing when to turn it off that counts. And that's usually after the war is finished and won.
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Does anyone really see Hamas doing that? turning it off? I can see the Israelis doing it, because their religious beliefs do not condone, promote, or encourage conversion to their religion by force............Hamas and it's supporters,.......not so much. I can't remember ever reading of the Jews forcibly converting individuals to their religion.
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hate them. So really if everyone already considers them bloodthirsty murderers, if they are absorbing more than a hundred missiles a day. Then what do the Israelis have to lose if they just totally wipe out Hamas? You poke at the bear long enough and he'll tear your head off, you mess with the lion long enough and the lion will eat you, you tease a gator long enough you'll die a horrible death. So if you're Hamas and you say day after day that you want to kill  all Israelis and all Jews worldwide day after day and you terrorize Israel with over a hundred missiles a day, terrorists popping out of the ground day after day why should you be surprised when Israeli artillery brings your house down around you? Netenyahu and the Knesset should just turn the army loose and finish the job.
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So, a final solution to the problem?
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:27:29 PM EDT
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The Palestinians demand that the Israelis choose between their own continued existence or the continued existence of those same Palestinians.  This is the daily Palestinian demand.  Israel gets to make the decision.  

Tough call for the Israelis?  I think not.

It's time for Darwin and common sense to prevail.

Hey Ali, careful what you wish for.  Or not.

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If Israel needs advice from Nietzsche, they are in trouble.




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I disagree profoundly.


The war has been going on for 1400 years. You'd rather it go on for another 1400? What's your solution?



 
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hate them. So really if everyone already considers them bloodthirsty murderers, if they are absorbing more than a hundred missiles a day. Then what do the Israelis have to lose if they just totally wipe out Hamas? You poke at the bear long enough and he'll tear your head off, you mess with the lion long enough and the lion will eat you, you tease a gator long enough you'll die a horrible death. So if you're Hamas and you say day after day that you want to kill  all Israelis and all Jews worldwide day after day and you terrorize Israel with over a hundred missiles a day, terrorists popping out of the ground day after day why should you be surprised when Israeli artillery brings your house down around you? Netenyahu and the Knesset should just turn the army loose and finish the job.


So, a final solution to the problem?

no half measures, no buckling down to foreign pressure especially from our administration and Department of State, track down Hamas and kill it. I am not advocating that they kill all the Palestinians but they should  kill all the Hamas  they can find. Oh, and they will deserve what they get if they give up anymore land.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:41:13 PM EDT
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If Hamas gave up tomorrow, they could live in peace with the Israelis. If Israel gave up tomorrow, every last man woman and child would be exterminated.



When that is the reality of the situation, how do you negotiate? Islam needs a Martin Luther level Reformation to have a shot at coexisting in the world. Short of that we will always be fighting them somewhere. That makes me sad.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:47:12 PM EDT
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The IDF needs just to push all of the jihadists to the sea then turn the area into a parking lot.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 8:52:34 PM EDT
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Perhaps they have tried that for a few thousand years, with poor results.


 
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Sometimes you have to become a "monster" to do what needs to be done.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:02:14 PM EDT
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So is Hamas on the Sunni side so they would be allied with AQ and ISIS? Saudi Arabia ruled by Sunni? I am getting confused.
Link Posted: 7/29/2014 9:53:56 PM EDT
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Hamas can still be used as an excuse for vengeance and propaganda by others who hate Israel or who could otherwise benefit.


As they are already..




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