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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:02:28 PM EDT
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In all seriousness, any lower of standards and there wouldn't be any standards other than "Showed up - Check". We call that "NYPD". |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:09:48 PM EDT
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That's fucking clown shoes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<<<SNIPPED>>> + hangover I thought that was implied. If I can figure out an an Illinois Agility Run is I might try that at 7:00 am on Saturday just for kicks. ETA Oh my various gods, really? http://www.topendsports.com/testing/images/illinois.gif  Holy shit. I thought it'd at least be climbing through a window, crawling through a 2 foot high opening at ground level, jumping over a table/counter, and jumping over a 4 foot fence. Jebus. That's fucking clown shoes. I'm sorry, I don't believe I'm quite familiar with that phrase. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:14:34 PM EDT
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I'm sorry, I don't believe I'm quite familiar with that phrase. I'll try to translate. *cough* Amateur hour. |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:19:32 PM EDT
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I am a cop and I workout everyday. Bad food being lazy makes you put on pounds quick. Just 30 minutes a day can make a huge difference.what a lot of guys forget is we get older criminals will be of all ages. Gotta stay fit.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:22:07 PM EDT
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I am s cop and I workout everyday. Bad food being lazy makes you put on pounds quick. Just 30 minutes a day can make a huge difference.what a lot of guys forget is we get older criminals will be of all ages. Gotta stay fit. Dafuq's an s cop? Is that anything like an s-corp? |
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:35:32 PM EDT
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I feel safer.
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Posted: 7/29/2014 6:42:08 PM EDT
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I'll try to translate. *cough* Amateur hour. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sorry, I don't believe I'm quite familiar with that phrase. I'll try to translate. *cough* Amateur hour. Fair enough. I was just trying to it within what I thought PA's testing standards are. 
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Posted: 7/29/2014 7:55:38 PM EDT
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http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/department_of_justice_declares_math_to_be_racist/ The U.S. Justice Department has found that the math portion of the Virginia Beach Police Department’s entrance exam discriminates against black and Hispanic applicants. If you buy 8 jelly donuts, 2 sourcream donuts and 4 Long Johns and each Police Officer eats 2 donuts; how many Police Officers can you feed donuts to? |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:40:25 AM EDT
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How much math does a police exam have? This particular exam asked prospective police officers to figure out how many hours they worked in a given week. It mentioned schedule changes and picking up a shift. That's it. In other words, basic arithmetic word problems...and it's too "discriminatory". |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:41:28 AM EDT
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I want a police force comprised solely of male roid ragers. I thought we had that already? We do... and they have cargo pockets. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:42:36 AM EDT
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Lower the bar? In many places the bar can't get much lower. .. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Time to lower the bar. Liberals will demand that paraplegics be accepted into the SEALs within the next 10 years. Lower the bar? In many places the bar can't get much lower. .. In some places, they'd have to dig it up. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:55:35 AM EDT
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"Your department's MRAP has a carrying capacity of 3 tons. Officers
John, Demarqus, Shontavius and Raul weigh two hundred and fifty pounds each. They each carry twelve pounds of gear. How much carrying capacity is left over for pastries, doughnuts and other baked goods that must be transported to the policeman's ball?" |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 3:57:44 AM EDT
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But but but, women are equal.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:01:51 AM EDT
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Even better would be to glue the 100 question application test to a 20x12 piece of 2" steel plate. Give one to every one and put them on a 1 mile obstacle course. Gotta carry that thing the whole way. Deduct a half a point every minute Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is so weak..... You should have to pass a physical standard to be selected. You should have to maintain a basic fitness level to keep the job. Scale it by age but getting hired and never doing another push-up, sit-up or run is ridiculous. Don't scale it by age, some sports are anti scaled by age. look at pro cycling, the best guys are in their LATE 20's or mid 30's. while the younger guys are behind. simply say "ok on X day we will be letting 100 candidates take the written test. if you want a shot at the job, get your background check packet in by XYZ date, if you get approved you will get a letter to meet at XYZ place in running gear at 8 am". Guy with bullhorn shows up, and at 8:01 he says, "OK well there are 500 of you, there are 100 paper tests at X location that is 1.5 miles away, you need to be the top 20% of the runners to get a paper test, GO". Background checks are racist though so my idea is a flop  .
Even better would be to glue the 100 question application test to a 20x12 piece of 2" steel plate. Give one to every one and put them on a 1 mile obstacle course. Gotta carry that thing the whole way. Deduct a half a point every minute I'm shit at math but that plate weighs as much as most females. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:09:01 AM EDT
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So the feds are going to set up a course for fatty scooter riders to pass
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:13:11 AM EDT
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Now if this was required for a job doing office work i can see it being a issue. As many hours as we spend writing reports, it essentially already is |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:15:26 AM EDT
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Well....tell it to the hoods who do nothing but work out and play ball all day why you are soft and weak.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:16:46 AM EDT
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Well....tell it to the hoods who do nothing but work out and play ball all day why you are soft and weak. I have a feeling that those who couldn't pass wouldn't be dealing with them much anyway. They usually tended to land inside positions within a year of being hired. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:20:26 AM EDT
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Lol
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:23:11 AM EDT
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I have a feeling that those who couldn't pass wouldn't be dealing with them much anyway. They usually tended to land inside positions within a year of being hired. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well....tell it to the hoods who do nothing but work out and play ball all day why you are soft and weak. I have a feeling that those who couldn't pass wouldn't be dealing with them much anyway. They usually tended to land inside positions within a year of being hired. True. Buy some people might screw up and actually police. And sometimes when you police you might screw up and actually have to work. Like actual work! |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:25:28 AM EDT
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it?
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:25:48 AM EDT
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True. Buy some people might screw up and actually police. And sometimes when you police you might screw up and actually have to work. Like actual work! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well....tell it to the hoods who do nothing but work out and play ball all day why you are soft and weak. I have a feeling that those who couldn't pass wouldn't be dealing with them much anyway. They usually tended to land inside positions within a year of being hired. True. Buy some people might screw up and actually police. And sometimes when you police you might screw up and actually have to work. Like actual work! We had people who made avoiding work into an art form. They worked in laziness the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was their true medium; masters. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:26:08 AM EDT
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Nothing where I worked. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:26:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt's literally the warm up exercise that they do in pewee soccer for 3-5 year olds. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:26:36 AM EDT
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17.48 mile and a half? Oh dear lord. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is absolute bullshit. This is also a disgrace to the 71% of women who busted their ass and prepared themselves physically to pass the exam. I REALLY REALLY hope they fight this and win. Edit: This is really messed up, their standards are incredibly low compared to MANY agencies out there. If you can't meet these requirements you have no place in law enforcement regardless of sex. Taken from the PA State Police website Test Applicant Standards Vertical Jump 14 inches, 3 Attempts Illinois Agility Run 23.5 Seconds, 2 Attempts 300-Meter Run 77 Seconds Push Ups 13 Repetitions (no time limit) 1.5 Mile Run 17 Minutes and 48 Seconds 17.48 mile and a half? Oh dear lord. To make it more interesting, applicants should have to run the first 300M of the 1.5 mile in 77 seconds, then limp through the balance of the run in what's left of the 17:48 |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:28:02 AM EDT
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Because you need more cops like this...
     Sorry, they gotta be at least in better shape than ME to wear a uniform and be part of the "special protected class of society". |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:28:44 AM EDT
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We had people who made avoiding work into an art form. They worked in laziness the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was their true medium; masters. I really can't hate a master of the skate. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:28:45 AM EDT
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Nothing. What do you expect the average line officer to do? Define "effective". Even an overweight officer can show up on calls and take a report, work accident scenes and do pretty much anything the job entails. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:33:32 AM EDT
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Well, that's reassuring. I guess I grew up in a town where even the bigger boys could hustle. I get that not many cops wearing 35 pounds of shit are going to run down a 145 pound kid in basketball shorts and Nikes, but damn. The job can be a physical one. Some semblance of physical fitness should be required.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:35:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really can't hate a master of the skate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We had people who made avoiding work into an art form. They worked in laziness the way other artists might work in oils or clay. It was their true medium; masters. I really can't hate a master of the skate.  |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 4:58:48 AM EDT
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Don't worry, it's happening in EMS and the fire service too. The population keeps getting fatter yet we're still expected to move patients and rescue people. Part of the "solution" is powered stretchers, which sounds great on paper until you have to lift the damn thing with your fatass patient- powered stretchers tend to weigh more than non-powered stretchers thus adding to the total amount of weight you have to move. That's not to say all of the women are weaker, sometimes quite the opposite is true as there are also a lot of males who shouldn't be doing the job too. By and large though the males will end up doing most of the heavy lifting or getting hurt themselves as weaker partners lose control of the load or cause it to shift. Accordingly the number of workman's comp claims will continue to climb as employees get hurt by these sorts of policies. One of the things that actually lowers worker's comp claims, and thus government costs, is to have a fit staff. Needless to say I don't see those costs going down in the future as we strive to make everyone a special snowflake and respect their personal best.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 5:21:18 AM EDT
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We had 2 female officers here who lost their day shifts because they couldn't pass the mile run time limits. They were bumped to 3rd shift. Both quit the force.
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Posted: 7/30/2014 12:43:35 PM EDT
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Absolutely nothing; at least on the federal side. If they meet the agency standards, no matter how obese they become...they are within those standards. Although, I think that is the same regardless of what career you are in (assuming they have a PT standard). I place the blame on garbage agency/department standards which allowed these types of people to get hired to begin with. Quoted:
We had 2 female officers here who lost their day shifts because they couldn't pass the mile run time limits. They were bumped to 3rd shift. Both quit the force. This is why I love Texas, at least there was some negative repercussion. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:12:08 PM EDT
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I place the blame on garbage agency/department standards which allowed these types of people to get hired to begin with. Standards are racist. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:19:26 PM EDT
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FPNI. Compromise public safety for PC. Makes sense.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FFS FPNI. Compromise public safety for PC. Makes sense. Become a crook. Runaway from police. Profit. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:22:27 PM EDT
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This is absolute bullshit. This is also a disgrace to the 71% of women who busted their ass and prepared themselves physically to pass the exam. I REALLY REALLY hope they fight this and win. Edit: This is really messed up, their standards are incredibly low compared to MANY agencies out there. If you can't meet these requirements you have no place in law enforcement regardless of sex. Taken from the PA State Police website Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is absolute bullshit. This is also a disgrace to the 71% of women who busted their ass and prepared themselves physically to pass the exam. I REALLY REALLY hope they fight this and win. Edit: This is really messed up, their standards are incredibly low compared to MANY agencies out there. If you can't meet these requirements you have no place in law enforcement regardless of sex. Taken from the PA State Police website Test Applicant Standards Vertical Jump 14 inches, 3 Attempts Illinois Agility Run 23.5 Seconds, 2 Attempts 300-Meter Run 77 Seconds Push Ups 13 Repetitions (no time limit) 1.5 Mile Run 17 Minutes and 48 Seconds You expect someone to be able to run 12 minute miles AND do THIRTEEN push ups? GTFO
Those standards are lower than we had in 3rd grade gym class, seriously. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:34:11 PM EDT
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Meh, they only take reports anyway. Obviously that's all you did. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Meh, they only take reports anyway. Obviously that's all you did. *whoosh* |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:36:38 PM EDT
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Nothing where I worked. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Nothing where I worked. Just because you were a shit-bird doesn't mean every other cop and department abides by your shit-bird-edness. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:39:51 PM EDT
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Just because you were a shit-bird doesn't mean every other cop and department abides by your shit-bird-edness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Nothing where I worked. Just because you were a shit-bird doesn't mean every other cop and department abides by your shit-bird-edness. Has nothing to do with his question. He asked what could be done and the answer for my PD was/is nothing. Feeling a little crabby today? |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:41:22 PM EDT
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Has nothing to do with his question. He asked what could be done and the answer for my PD was/is nothing. Feeling a little crabby today? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Serious question for the cops in the thread: If you start to notice one of your officers is too out of shape to be effective, what can you do about it? Nothing where I worked. Just because you were a shit-bird doesn't mean every other cop and department abides by your shit-bird-edness. Has nothing to do with his question. He asked what could be done and the answer for my PD was/is nothing. Feeling a little crabby today? Nope. Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. Crabby though, nope.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:42:52 PM EDT
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Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. I'm verified by Site Staff, you on the other hand....... 
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I can figure out an an Illinois Agility Run is I might try that at 7:00 am on Saturday just for kicks. ETA Oh my various gods, really? http://www.topendsports.com/testing/images/illinois.gif Holy shit.  Yeah, I'm totally out of shape and I could do that test. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:46:45 PM EDT
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Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. I'm verified by Site Staff, you on the other hand....... Well then, your obvious hatred for peace officers leaves you in a league of your own then. Well done. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:49:45 PM EDT
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You must have been a transit cop or something similar.... I understand your angst...
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:50:11 PM EDT
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Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. I'm verified by Site Staff, you on the other hand....... Well then, your obvious hatred for peace officers leaves you in a league of your own then. Well done. Answering a member's question honestly is hatred? I guess the other verified LEO who answered the same way about his own department hates peace officers too. |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Out in the T where there are no local PD, the PA Staties are real police. My brother has responded to a number of "real" incidents over 20 years, including two bank robberies ending in gunfights. At the Philly barracks, you're right. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh, they only take reports anyway. My brother has responded to a number of "real" incidents over 20 years, including two bank robberies ending in gunfights. At the Philly barracks, you're right. I live (and grew up) out in the T, the town I grew up had State Police coverage after the single town cop retired in the late '80s, they moved the barracks almost in town a couple years before so the response times actually went up pretty dramatically, even though the town wasn't exactly a hotbed of crime in the time that the Troopers were covering it until I left for college they had 2 high speed chases, a bank robbery, a murder investigation and then your normal small town random crime. When I was in college I got to watch a PSP SWAT team take down a house by the numbers. Just last year a Trooper was seriously wounded in a multi-agency standoff/gunfight a county over from where I live now. State Police in PA aren't just interstate ticket writers by a long shot. Having said all that, those standards hardly seem onerous to me, hell I'm 42 and could pass that without too much of a problem...so I'm not really seeing the problem with them except for the fact people want standards for just about everything lowered in the name of "fairness." |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:51:52 PM EDT
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Answering a member's question honestly is hatred? I guess the other verified LEO who answered the same way about his own department hates peace officers too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. I'm verified by Site Staff, you on the other hand....... Well then, your obvious hatred for peace officers leaves you in a league of your own then. Well done. Answering a member's question honestly is hatred? I guess the other verified LEO who answered the same way about his own department hates peace officers too. I watch your posts... It's apparent on just about every thread you post in. You must have been fired.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:52:34 PM EDT
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Meh, they only take reports anyway. Obviously that's all you did. *whoosh* lol |
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Posted: 7/30/2014 1:53:25 PM EDT
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I watch your posts... It's apparent on just about every thread you post in. You must have been fired.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just tired of you pretending to be a ex/cop and acting like you know a damn thing. I'm verified by Site Staff, you on the other hand....... Well then, your obvious hatred for peace officers leaves you in a league of your own then. Well done. Answering a member's question honestly is hatred? I guess the other verified LEO who answered the same way about his own department hates peace officers too. I watch your posts... It's apparent on just about every thread you post in. You must have been fired.... Next time, look up. Maybe you'll see it. |
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