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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:47:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Edited to say this guy is fucked. Didn't see the interview until after I posted.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:48:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Good shoot, bad mouth
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Posted: 7/24/2014 7:24:41 PM EDT
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Link She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant -- I'm going to have a baby,'" the man, who was identified as Tom Greer, told the TV station. He said he fired two rounds and that a man who was with her fled the scene. "I shot her twice. She best be dead," Greer said. While I'm sure the law won't support this, I say good shot. Fuck thieves. I'm going out on a limb here by suggesting that the 'journalist' selectively edited/chose the quoted statements above. But I'd be a fool to expect otherwise. I'm sorry for her child. No idea what happened to the baby from the story, but I feel sorry for the child for having a sorry ass mother. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:08:03 PM EDT
[#4]
gonna go down like grampa-anchor-shot in MO (I think?) a few months back:
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:21:02 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how I feel about this one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unarmed and pregnant? Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless. I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I am. You can't commit a violent crime and then expect people to listen when you start shouting that you're pregnant. Case in point; if he'd shot her and she lived but the kid didn't, then the woman most likely would have been charged with murder unless it was a completely blatant bad shoot. It's not really any different than robbing a bank and having your accomplices killed during it - you're going to get charged for that. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:22:12 PM EDT
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Things to avoid while pregnant: -Smoking -Drinking more than the occasional glass of wine -Drugs without specific advice from a physician -Armed robbery -Excessively strenuous exercise -Fasting thought this said "Fisting" without my glasses on and said that seems reasonable There's a few more but that covers most of it. Nah, fisting is GTG. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:23:03 PM EDT
[#7]
Yep! Looks like females have equal rights too. Of course the fetus was collateral damage which the mother was willing to use as a shield.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:24:48 PM EDT
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:27:42 PM EDT
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Good shoot. But it's CA...so he's probably fucked. CA has castle doctrine and no duty to retreat. VA doesn't have CD and you are suppose to retreat before using deadly force 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:48:47 PM EDT
[#10]
Once Jackson-Sharpton-whomever gets a hold of this, he'll be charged, assuming the perps were black.
I hope they don't charge him, though. Fuck thieves. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:50:40 PM EDT
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Once Jackson-Sharpton-whomever gets a hold of this, he'll be charged, assuming the perps were black. I hope they don't charge him, though. Fuck thieves. No mention of perp's race, so that means black or spanish. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 9:56:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Gotta love happy endings.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:12:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: EDIT TO ADD: I might feel differently if you told me he was 30 years old, in good physical shape, and that the male intruded wasn't present. But as-is, with two assailants vs. an 80-year-old, I'm glad the dude had a means to defend himself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good shoot. EDIT TO ADD: I might feel differently if you told me he was 30 years old, in good physical shape, and that the male intruded wasn't present. But as-is, with two assailants vs. an 80-year-old, I'm glad the dude had a means to defend himself. I agree |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 10:28:15 PM EDT
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You're Goddamned right it's fucked up. What kind of mother would risk her child's life like that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unarmed and pregnant? Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless. You're Goddamned right it's fucked up. What kind of mother would risk her child's life like that? Drugs involved. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 5:16:37 AM EDT
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 6:00:03 AM EDT
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You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. Cite for the statement that this was the 3rd time the dead woman broke into the 80 y/o's house? Not a cite for the 3rd time his house had been broken into. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 6:09:08 AM EDT
[#17]
Although the actual news article was written well enough, the headline was not. Two people were attempting to rob him ...again...in his home. Elderly robbery victim kills one robber. one flees.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 6:14:34 AM EDT
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gonna go down like grampa-anchor-shot in MO (I think?) a few months back: <a href="http://s326.photobucket.com/user/phb1gt/media/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k407/phb1gt/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg</a> Nope, that's Uncle Nutsy from Little Falls, MN. He will never see "the outside" again. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:56:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CA has castle doctrine and no duty to retreat. VA doesn't have CD and you are suppose to retreat before using deadly force Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good shoot. But it's CA...so he's probably fucked. CA has castle doctrine and no duty to retreat. VA doesn't have CD and you are suppose to retreat before using deadly force As I understood it she was fleeing and he shot her as she was retreating, if so he's rightfully fucked. We don't kill people in cold blood once the threat is no longer a threat. If this guy killed her while she was running away he murdered her. His interview in video left a feeling of fuck him. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:58:00 AM EDT
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Good shoot. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 9:58:36 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. And even if it was GTG in Texas you have to watch the Fed, they can pick up the charge if they want. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 12:55:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope, that's Uncle Nutsy from Little Falls, MN. He will never see "the outside" again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: gonna go down like grampa-anchor-shot in MO (I think?) a few months back: <a href="http://s326.photobucket.com/user/phb1gt/media/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k407/phb1gt/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg</a> Nope, that's Uncle Nutsy from Little Falls, MN. He will never see "the outside" again. I listened to some of the recording of that. He was hunting over bait.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:33:10 PM EDT
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http://www.gazettes.com/news/long-beach-police-continue-to-sort-out--year-old/article_5674346a-1393-11e4-86f2-0019bb2963f4.html
Male accomplice charged with murder. Pics of suspects also if you care.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:37:01 PM EDT
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gonna go down like grampa-anchor-shot in MO (I think?) a few months back: <a href="http://s326.photobucket.com/user/phb1gt/media/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k407/phb1gt/ByronSmith_zps3a2b73c0.jpg</a> Details? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good shoot. But it's CA...so he's probably fucked. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 1:52:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMale accomplice charged with murder. Pics of suspects also if you care. Good
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:01:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Ma baby didn't do nuffin.....
I am going to hell for that. 
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:02:18 PM EDT
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Male accomplice charged with murder. Pics of suspects also if you care. Good Quote HistoryQuoted:
Male accomplice charged with murder. Pics of suspects also if you care. Good I love that law |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:04:23 PM EDT
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Even in Texas you cannot kill someone who is off your property and running away, Texans would hang that MFer if he shot her in the back and being pregnant? And even if it was GTG in Texas you have to watch the Fed, they can pick up the charge if they want. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. You need to move to Texas. This is a good shoot every day of the week here, and you'd probably get a medal from Rick Perry too. This was the THIRD time that these people had broken into this old mans home. All that them fleeing the scene means is that they will be back again. You shoot in the back to protect your safety in the future just as much as you do to protect yourself in the moment. Sound harsh? Not to Texas, because people do it all the time here. Good shoot. Guy needs to get a Crimestoppers award for preventing the future criminal spawn from thriving too. And even if it was GTG in Texas you have to watch the Fed, they can pick up the charge if they want. Yes, you can, under a variety of circumstances. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:07:26 PM EDT
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"Officials said the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office would have to determine if Greer was in imminent danger of great bodily harm or death."
Mr. Greer's broken collar bone answers that question. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:15:02 PM EDT
[#31]
I wonder if the fact that this same party was repeatedly victimizing the same old man could be considered an ongoing threat given the reasonable likelihood of yet another break-in and assault at a future date.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:24:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but you can't shoot someone who is running away and in the back. As I understood it she was fleeing and he shot her as she was retreating, if so he's rightfully fucked. We don't kill people in cold blood once the threat is no longer a threat. If this guy killed her while she was running away he murdered her. His interview in video left a feeling of fuck him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good shoot. But it's CA...so he's probably fucked. CA has castle doctrine and no duty to retreat. VA doesn't have CD and you are suppose to retreat before using deadly force As I understood it she was fleeing and he shot her as she was retreating, if so he's rightfully fucked. We don't kill people in cold blood once the threat is no longer a threat. If this guy killed her while she was running away he murdered her. His interview in video left a feeling of fuck him. Here is a tip in life ----- If you like living, don't rob people. If I was in charge I'd give the man a pass for taking out the garbage. He had multiple break pins in the past and wasn't putting up with more. Fuck thieves, they are nothing but pond scum. She put herself in that position, and by doing what she did endangered her unborn child, so for that fuck her again. In this world actions have consequences and her's happened to fatal. No fucks given. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:28:56 PM EDT
[#33]
Mr. Greer's broken collar bone answers that question. He wasn't in imminent danger of further injury at the moment he did the shooting. If someone injures you, that doesn't give you license to chase him down and kill him at some later time. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:29:22 PM EDT
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Why people here argue for scum thieves is beyond me
Fuck her....don't give a shit if she was or wasn't preggo |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:33:18 PM EDT
[#35]
Don't invade, rob and assault people in their homes. Her pregnancy was her responsibility, not the victims. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:35:36 PM EDT
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. I hope not. The guy did everyone a favor. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:39:42 PM EDT
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"Officials said the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office would have to determine if Greer was in imminent danger of great bodily harm or death." Mr. Greer's broken collar bone answers that question. That seals it. Definitely would no bill. Good that they charged her accomplice. I think this will make it easier not to charge the shooter as someone will pay for the death. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:50:14 PM EDT
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I don't know how people can claim this is a good shoot. He shot a fleeing person in the back, then stood over her and shot her as she begged for her life. Watch the video. I feel no sympathy for her, however, castle doctrine does not give you the ability to stand over an unarmed person that you have already shot in the back and put two rounds into them execution style. If this was a police shooting everyone would be screaming bad shoot.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 2:51:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Coroner is now saying the bitch wasn't preggers.
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:02:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am. You can't commit a violent crime and then expect people to listen when you start shouting that you're pregnant. Case in point; if he'd shot her and she lived but the kid didn't, then the woman most likely would have been charged with murder unless it was a completely blatant bad shoot. It's not really any different than robbing a bank and having your accomplices killed during it - you're going to get charged for that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Unarmed and pregnant? Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless. I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I am. You can't commit a violent crime and then expect people to listen when you start shouting that you're pregnant. Case in point; if he'd shot her and she lived but the kid didn't, then the woman most likely would have been charged with murder unless it was a completely blatant bad shoot. It's not really any different than robbing a bank and having your accomplices killed during it - you're going to get charged for that. Yeah it sounds like a good and justifiable shoot, I just wouldn't want the whole pregnancy thing on my conscience. Quoted: Coroner is now saying the bitch wasn't preggers. See that's what I was wondering about. If she wasn't showing much, how would Greer know she was pregnant prior to her claiming it. Bitch was probably yelling that out so as to keep from getting her ass shot off. Lotta good it did her. Fucking lowlifes. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:03:27 PM EDT
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Coroner is now saying the bitch wasn't preggers. And you're surprised? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:05:13 PM EDT
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Yeah it sounds like a good and justifiable shoot, I just wouldn't want the whole pregnancy thing on my conscience. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unarmed and pregnant? Probably legally justified, but pretty fucked up regardless. I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I am. You can't commit a violent crime and then expect people to listen when you start shouting that you're pregnant. Case in point; if he'd shot her and she lived but the kid didn't, then the woman most likely would have been charged with murder unless it was a completely blatant bad shoot. It's not really any different than robbing a bank and having your accomplices killed during it - you're going to get charged for that. Yeah it sounds like a good and justifiable shoot, I just wouldn't want the whole pregnancy thing on my conscience. Nits make lice. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:06:04 PM EDT
[#43]
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Coroner is now saying the bitch wasn't preggers. She lied? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:06:55 PM EDT
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I don't know how people can claim this is a good shoot. He shot a fleeing person in the back, then stood over her and shot her as she begged for her life. Watch the video. I feel no sympathy for her, however, castle doctrine does not give you the ability to stand over an unarmed person that you have already shot in the back and put two rounds into them execution style. If this was a police shooting everyone would be screaming bad shoot. I don't know how people can defend thug scumbags that break into houses and beat an 80 year old man hard enough to break his collar bone and rob him of his property. Those scumbags declared war on that man and invaded his home. The old man won the war and set the terms of surrender. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:09:29 PM EDT
[#45]
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I don't know how people can claim this is a good shoot. He shot a fleeing person in the back, then stood over her and shot her as she begged for her life. Watch the video. I feel no sympathy for her, however, castle doctrine does not give you the ability to stand over an unarmed person that you have already shot in the back and put two rounds into them execution style. If this was a police shooting everyone would be screaming bad shoot. They decided to fuck with an innocent person, said person issued a response. If every burglary ended like this we would have a shit load less of them. Fuck that stupid cunt. Good fucking shoot. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:13:10 PM EDT
[#46]
I feel bad for the unborn. A fucked situation.
That sad: No bill. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:16:05 PM EDT
[#47]
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I feel bad for the unborn. A fucked situation. That sad: No bill. Allegedly, the coroner said she was not pregnant... |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:21:56 PM EDT
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I don't know how people can defend thug scumbags that break into houses and beat an 80 year old man hard enough to break his collar bone and rob him of his property. Those scumbags declared war on that man and invaded his home. The old man won the war and set the terms of surrender. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know how people can claim this is a good shoot. He shot a fleeing person in the back, then stood over her and shot her as she begged for her life. Watch the video. I feel no sympathy for her, however, castle doctrine does not give you the ability to stand over an unarmed person that you have already shot in the back and put two rounds into them execution style. If this was a police shooting everyone would be screaming bad shoot. I don't know how people can defend thug scumbags that break into houses and beat an 80 year old man hard enough to break his collar bone and rob him of his property. Those scumbags declared war on that man and invaded his home. The old man won the war and set the terms of surrender. This isn't war. That's a stupid analogy. What happened is the man shot a fleeing suspect in the back, then shot and killed the suspect who was no longer threatening his life. Would you be ok with this shoot if it was a police shooting? Just because the rober was a scumbag junkie does not mean you can shoot them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:22:50 PM EDT
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They decided to fuck with an innocent person, said person issued a response. If every burglary ended like this we would have a shit load less of them. Fuck that stupid cunt. Good fucking shoot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know how people can claim this is a good shoot. He shot a fleeing person in the back, then stood over her and shot her as she begged for her life. Watch the video. I feel no sympathy for her, however, castle doctrine does not give you the ability to stand over an unarmed person that you have already shot in the back and put two rounds into them execution style. If this was a police shooting everyone would be screaming bad shoot. They decided to fuck with an innocent person, said person issued a response. If every burglary ended like this we would have a shit load less of them. Fuck that stupid cunt. Good fucking shoot. Do police get to shoot fleeing suspects in the back then shoot them to death while they are laying on the ground? |
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Posted: 7/25/2014 3:24:03 PM EDT
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I hate to say this, but it looks to me like a LEGALLY bad shoot and possible double murder. Yep. Bad shoot. I believe in the right to protect your life and your property, but I could not shoot a pregnant woman in the back that was doing her best to exit the premise (by the shooter's own account) and who told the shooter she was pregnant and begged him not to shoot her (again, by the shooter's own account). There is something wrong with that man. He belongs in prison. |
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