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Link Posted: 7/23/2014 8:56:35 PM EDT
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Sigh.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:29:12 PM EDT
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"Before leaving the scene, the officers brought the suspect by, to apologize."

Are you fucking kidding me?!!! I'm pro-LEO (LEOs in my county rock!) but damn, those officers must not have any sense of personal accountability at all.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:32:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:33:03 PM EDT
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30 days. One month, that's all I ask. Prior to commissioning every candidate should work one month in the county shelter. They'll either learn how to deal with strange dogs, or get their fill of killing them.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:35:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:35:48 PM EDT
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I wish I could say I am shocked, but unfortunately I can not.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:56:26 PM EDT
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I have a six month old, 70 pound Great Pyrenees, and I honestly fear for him to some degree.  Before this site, the idea that a cop would shoot my dog for no reason other than being a few backyards away from a crime taking place was absurd to me.  Now, I dunno.  I definitely will not let him in my backyard unattended, not like that has even mattered in some of these cases.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 9:58:18 PM EDT
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He must be new to the force.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 10:13:02 PM EDT
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Im waiting for the homeowner who shoots back because the cops keep killing their family members. Its coming.
Link Posted: 7/23/2014 10:22:16 PM EDT
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And we're off....
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:23:36 AM EDT
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No shit. With some people it would be: shoot my dog, watch your back, IMHO.



 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:31:56 AM EDT
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The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:37:41 AM EDT
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"The choices you make affect those around you." Quote from the dog owner
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:37:41 AM EDT
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The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.
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"Before leaving the scene, the officers brought the suspect by, to apologize."

Are you fucking kidding me?!!! I'm pro-LEO (LEOs in my county rock!) but damn, those officers must not have any sense of personal accountability at all.

The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.


So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:39:26 AM EDT
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So the officers brought the suspect by to apologize for the shooting?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:41:19 AM EDT
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"Before leaving the scene, the officers brought the suspect by, to apologize."

Are you fucking kidding me?!!! I'm pro-LEO (LEOs in my county rock!) but damn, those officers must not have any sense of personal accountability at all.

The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.


I was rushed by a large grey pit bull while in the hood yesterday working. I was not bit. In fact, I had the damn thing rolled over on it's back while giving it a neck scratch waiting for it's dumb ass owner to show up.

If you are around dogs a lot due to your job and won't teach yourself how to read them, you're a useless git.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:41:23 AM EDT
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Yeah, the officers made the suspect apologize for them shooting the dog.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:42:15 AM EDT
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Yep, which is odd being that suspect didn't shoot the dog.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:48:15 AM EDT
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Yep, which is odd being that suspect didn't shoot the dog.
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Yep, which is odd being that suspect didn't shoot the dog.


The officer's moms should apologize to the homeowner for raising retards.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:49:26 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


GD may now return to delivering pizza.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:49:28 AM EDT
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The officer's moms should apologize to the homeowner for raising retards.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:51:40 AM EDT
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“It’s a ‘shoot first, think later’ when it comes to domestic animals,” Trott said.



Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:51:49 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


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Edit: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1643213_Another_dog_down__WTF___Coeur_d__Alene.html

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1646020_City_pays__30_000_to_owner_of_dog_shot_by_police_.html
But I'm sure these are fabricated lies
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:52:48 AM EDT
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They should cite the owner for dog at large since it was off the property.  

I do side with the officers though. It's tough trying to figure out what the dog is going to do if it is coming directly for them. I know GD though, if this was a dogbite incident, 3/4s of the posters in this thread would be doing high fives.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:54:07 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


GD may now return to delivering pizza.

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Like the guy last week that was serving papers to the wrong address and shot a dog through a fence? Like that?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:56:20 AM EDT
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The decision to shoot, or harm, an animal is not made lightly, but at times must be made immediately.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 2:56:25 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


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“It’s a ‘shoot first, think later’ when it comes to domestic animals,” Trott said.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:01:45 AM EDT
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So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?
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So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?

That would vary by your states laws and you probably already know that

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I was rushed by a large grey pit bull while in the hood yesterday working. I was not bit. In fact, I had the damn thing rolled over on it's back while giving it a neck scratch waiting for it's dumb ass owner to show up.

If you are around dogs a lot due to your job and won't teach yourself how to read them, you're a useless git.


Do you honestly think that the officers while literally in hot pursuit of their suspect had the luxury of time you did?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:02:10 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


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It has been my experience that dogs pick up on negative human character traits, perhaps this is why you routinely find yourself shooting dogs?

Why the disparaging remarks on pizza delivery people? Maybe you should use the service more, that would keep you in the house and away from all these dogs you encounter and need to shoot.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:04:47 AM EDT
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It has been my experience that dogs pick up on negative human character traits, perhaps this is why you routinely find yourself shooting dogs?

Why the disparaging remarks on pizza delivery people? Maybe you should use the service more, that would keep you in the house and away from all these dogs you encounter and need to shoot.
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


GD may now return to delivering pizza.


It has been my experience that dogs pick up on negative human character traits, perhaps this is why you routinely find yourself shooting dogs?

Why the disparaging remarks on pizza delivery people? Maybe you should use the service more, that would keep you in the house and away from all these dogs you encounter and need to shoot.

Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:04:48 AM EDT
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Seems to me in this case, I can see myself shooting to.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:06:43 AM EDT
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Because GD inevitably talks about pizza delivery guys not getting bit by dogs or finding the right address ( if its a SWAT thread )
Clearly the basement dwellers hold pizza guys in high esteem
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:07:38 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


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Reread the article.  Didn't see that anywhere.  Were you there?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:07:54 AM EDT
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Serious questions because police officers are civilians. If someone is about to destroy my property (my dog), do I not have the right to defend that property with lethal force? I know it won't go well either way, but I'm just curious.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:08:46 AM EDT
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Is there any real reports of officers being attacked and mauled. Not ankle bitters but real dogs. Nice of them to bring the kid around to say he is sorry, funny when they shoot a dog they never apologize.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:10:41 AM EDT
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It's all in the creative writing!
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:12:54 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


GD may now return to delivering pizza.


It has been my experience that dogs pick up on negative human character traits, perhaps this is why you routinely find yourself shooting dogs?

Why the disparaging remarks on pizza delivery people? Maybe you should use the service more, that would keep you in the house and away from all these dogs you encounter and need to shoot.





Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:13:28 AM EDT
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LEO's do not shoot dogs for simply "approaching" or barking.

How else would some of you expect a LEO to react when threatened by a barking/snarling dog that "approaches" with it's teeth bared??????

I've been to the E.R. twice because of dog attacks.

I have sent many dogs to dog heaven.

Anyone who does not take a dog bite/attack seriously doesn't know what in the hell they're talking about.


GD may now return to delivering pizza.
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If I didn't watch an officer shooting a dog that was actively running away from them twice in their hind legs, I might believe you.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:14:29 AM EDT
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Don't know about going there but IIRC the Hells Angels won a case against a SWAT raid where they shot their dags.. I have to look it up for details..

Story Here

Different situation..
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:15:48 AM EDT
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Yep, which is odd being that suspect didn't shoot the dog.




The officer's moms should apologize to the homeowner for raising retards.






 
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:17:17 AM EDT
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Dogs are not people.
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:18:23 AM EDT
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Dogs are not people.


Target practice?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:18:32 AM EDT
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So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?
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"Before leaving the scene, the officers brought the suspect by, to apologize."

Are you fucking kidding me?!!! I'm pro-LEO (LEOs in my county rock!) but damn, those officers must not have any sense of personal accountability at all.

The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.


So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?

If you feel threatened? I would expect it.
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"Before leaving the scene, the officers brought the suspect by, to apologize."

Are you fucking kidding me?!!! I'm pro-LEO (LEOs in my county rock!) but damn, those officers must not have any sense of personal accountability at all.

The officers did what they did because of the suspects actions.
Lets see how many of you would be confronted by a large strange dog in an alleyway and not do something along the same lines.


So I can shoot a dog without fear of prosecution if it approaches me?

If you feel threatened? I would expect it.


Or if it is potentially threatening.. Or just scary looking... Then we can just assume they will attack and sense they are all big and scary, just shoot them and not take a chance..
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:23:16 AM EDT
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Since dogs are clearly dangerous, I'm sure someone will be along any minute now to post the number of officers killed every year by vicious dogs.  

Heck, I'm sure someone will post a SINGLE EXAMPLE of an officer killed by a vicious dog, just to shut us up..  

Just one.  

Amiright?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:23:34 AM EDT
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Dogs are not people.


But they are property. In some states that still matters.

Edt: What if a person shot your cows/bulls that you were depending on to get through the winter because they were "running amuck?"
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:24:00 AM EDT
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Lethal force is legal to be used in defense of yourself or another from the imminent threat of great bodily harm or death.
What do you think?
Link Posted: 7/24/2014 3:26:45 AM EDT
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Serious questions because police officers are civilians. If someone is about to destroy my property (my dog), do I not have the right to defend that property with lethal force? I know it won't go well either way, but I'm just curious.

Lethal force is legal to be used in defense of yourself or another from the imminent threat of great bodily harm or death.
What do you think?


Can defend property with deadly force in Texas..
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But they are property. In some states that still matters.

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Dogs are not people.


But they are property. In some states that still matters.

Edt: What if a person shot your cows/bulls that you were depending on to get through the winter because they were "running amuck?"

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Can defend property with deadly force in Texas..
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Serious questions because police officers are civilians. If someone is about to destroy my property (my dog), do I not have the right to defend that property with lethal force? I know it won't go well either way, but I'm just curious.

Lethal force is legal to be used in defense of yourself or another from the imminent threat of great bodily harm or death.
What do you think?


Can defend property with deadly force in Texas..

And Kentucky.
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