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Posted: 7/24/2014 2:15:02 AM EDT
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Hard to argue with success. After all, it turned out so well for everyone last time. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 2:55:30 AM EDT
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This must be another sign of the "tranquility in the world" that Obama was talking about.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 2:57:00 AM EDT
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This must be another sign of the "tranquility in the world" that Obama was talking about. TRG First Dual Peace Prize winner? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:24:19 AM EDT
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I would venture to guess you are not hearing about attacks on Jews in Europe for the same reason we in the US seldom see reports of black on white violence. Not because it isn't epidemic, but because the press has an agenda they follow.
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LOL....Americans. Honestly......Not heard anything about any anti-semitic acts other than the one where some clown shot and liked three people a couple of months ago. There will no doubt be the odd asshat who does something stupid, just as there are idiots leaving the occasional pig's head on the doorsteps of mosques - that is nothing new and is usually nothing more than a very limited group of idiots doing stupid things. I would imagine that when it kicks off in Gaza and Israel land as it does ever few years there will be a rise in asshattery to some degree but we are simply not hearing about anti-Semitic attacks in anything like the number that you guys seem to be reporting it. If I hear anything along these lines I will be sure to post it, but so far it seems to be same few reports regurgitated over and over again. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:29:35 AM EDT
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I don't get the Jew hate. But it isn't shaved headed Doc Marten wearing goose steppers behind this. It is *surprise* the Religion of Peace. First the Jews, then the athiests, then the gays, then the Christians. Soon Sharia will be law of the land in France and many other European countries. Demographic shifts and birth rates make this all but inevitable. Just like we will be a majority Hispanic nation soon. The gays? Puhleeze. That's the media darling de jour, and has no place within the other groups you list. Think for yourself. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:32:36 AM EDT
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probably same reasons that if you want accurate reporting on crime in Chicago, you go to the Daily Mail, not the Chicago Tribune. If you want accurate reporting on european anti-semitism, it won't be coming from european news outlets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL....Americans. Honestly......Not heard anything about any anti-semitic acts other than the one where some clown shot and liked three people a couple of months ago. There will no doubt be the odd asshat who does something stupid, just as there are idiots leaving the occasional pig's head on the doorsteps of mosques - that is nothing new and is usually nothing more than a very limited group of idiots doing stupid things. I would imagine that when it kicks off in Gaza and Israel land as it does ever few years there will be a rise in asshattery to some degree but we are simply not hearing about anti-Semitic attacks in anything like the number that you guys seem to be reporting it. If I hear anything along these lines I will be sure to post it, but so far it seems to be same few reports regurgitated over and over again. probably same reasons that if you want accurate reporting on crime in Chicago, you go to the Daily Mail, not the Chicago Tribune. If you want accurate reporting on european anti-semitism, it won't be coming from european news outlets. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 3:46:57 AM EDT
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I would venture to guess you are not hearing about attacks on Jews in Europe for the same reason we in the US seldom see reports of black on white violence. Not because it isn't epidemic, but because the press has an agenda they follow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I would venture to guess you are not hearing about attacks on Jews in Europe for the same reason we in the US seldom see reports of black on white violence. Not because it isn't epidemic, but because the press has an agenda they follow. Quoted:
LOL....Americans. Honestly......Not heard anything about any anti-semitic acts other than the one where some clown shot and liked three people a couple of months ago. There will no doubt be the odd asshat who does something stupid, just as there are idiots leaving the occasional pig's head on the doorsteps of mosques - that is nothing new and is usually nothing more than a very limited group of idiots doing stupid things. I would imagine that when it kicks off in Gaza and Israel land as it does ever few years there will be a rise in asshattery to some degree but we are simply not hearing about anti-Semitic attacks in anything like the number that you guys seem to be reporting it. If I hear anything along these lines I will be sure to post it, but so far it seems to be same few reports regurgitated over and over again. When it happens it is very publicly reported in nearly all cases. If it is not in the national media, it is at the very least reported in local media on TV, Radio, online and in printed press. The US media is notoriously poor and I think that you guys assume it is the same everywhere else. While our media is far from perfect, anything along the lines of what is being claimed in this thread would be pretty well covered. You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. It would be easy to simply post up links to counter the claims being made, but that wouldn't really help the discussion and only create an adversarial position which I don't think helps the debate. It would also be pretty easy to undermine some of the sources being provided, but again that doesn't really help people get a perspective and makes the whole discussion adversarial. I think people need to step back a bit at times and get a wider perspective than the one that has been spoon-fed to them for decades. This issue is remarkably complex and there are many twists on the stories surrounding the historical facts which are often employed to try and swing an argument and gain support for one side or the other. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:10:15 AM EDT
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When it happens it is very publicly reported in nearly all cases. If it is not in the national media, it is at the very least reported in local media on TV, Radio, online and in printed press. The US media is notoriously poor and I think that you guys assume it is the same everywhere else. While our media is far from perfect, anything along the lines of what is being claimed in this thread would be pretty well covered. You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. It would be easy to simply post up links to counter the claims being made, but that wouldn't really help the discussion and only create an adversarial position which I don't think helps the debate. It would also be pretty easy to undermine some of the sources being provided, but again that doesn't really help people get a perspective and makes the whole discussion adversarial. I think people need to step back a bit at times and get a wider perspective than the one that has been spoon-fed to them for decades. This issue is remarkably complex and there are many twists on the stories surrounding the historical facts which are often employed to try and swing an argument and gain support for one side or the other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would venture to guess you are not hearing about attacks on Jews in Europe for the same reason we in the US seldom see reports of black on white violence. Not because it isn't epidemic, but because the press has an agenda they follow. Quoted:
LOL....Americans. Honestly......Not heard anything about any anti-semitic acts other than the one where some clown shot and liked three people a couple of months ago. There will no doubt be the odd asshat who does something stupid, just as there are idiots leaving the occasional pig's head on the doorsteps of mosques - that is nothing new and is usually nothing more than a very limited group of idiots doing stupid things. I would imagine that when it kicks off in Gaza and Israel land as it does ever few years there will be a rise in asshattery to some degree but we are simply not hearing about anti-Semitic attacks in anything like the number that you guys seem to be reporting it. If I hear anything along these lines I will be sure to post it, but so far it seems to be same few reports regurgitated over and over again. When it happens it is very publicly reported in nearly all cases. If it is not in the national media, it is at the very least reported in local media on TV, Radio, online and in printed press. The US media is notoriously poor and I think that you guys assume it is the same everywhere else. While our media is far from perfect, anything along the lines of what is being claimed in this thread would be pretty well covered. You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. It would be easy to simply post up links to counter the claims being made, but that wouldn't really help the discussion and only create an adversarial position which I don't think helps the debate. It would also be pretty easy to undermine some of the sources being provided, but again that doesn't really help people get a perspective and makes the whole discussion adversarial. I think people need to step back a bit at times and get a wider perspective than the one that has been spoon-fed to them for decades. This issue is remarkably complex and there are many twists on the stories surrounding the historical facts which are often employed to try and swing an argument and gain support for one side or the other. Spot on. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:44:53 AM EDT
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You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:46:36 AM EDT
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In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Fairly ironic considering the monolithic nature of european journalism. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:58:00 AM EDT
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In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
Originally Posted By agent funky
You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 4:59:23 AM EDT
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You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
It's a smart ass thing we Americans throw out there to be...............well................ smart asses. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:10:10 AM EDT
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In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
Originally Posted By agent funky
You also have to recognise that a lot of what you read has an agenda. There are nearly always two sides to every story but if you only hear one side then that is all you can really know. In other words the problem is the joos. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, that's exactly what he said. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:14:15 AM EDT
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A big part of the anti semitism is due to the media. I was in Greece recently on vacation and as I watched the news (Greek and British BBC), all they showed were mostly dead palestinian children and parents crying. They mentioned how the Israelis bombed hospitals and such. I know there are two sides to the story, but they didnt seem to discuss the other side.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:15:45 AM EDT
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I don't get the Jew hate. But it isn't shaved headed Doc Marten wearing goose steppers behind this. It is *surprise* the Religion of Peace. First the Jews, then the athiests, then the gays, then the Christians. Soon Sharia will be law of the land in France and many other European countries. Demographic shifts and birth rates make this all but inevitable. Just like we will be a majority Hispanic nation soon. Define Hispanic. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:18:24 AM EDT
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By and large, Dems support Arabs and Repubs support Israel. I just can't figure out why Jews here in the US vote Democrat. Wonder if this stuff in Europe will lift their blindness? Jews are socialists. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:22:06 AM EDT
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LOL....Americans. Honestly......Not heard anything about any anti-semitic acts other than the one where some clown shot and liked three people a couple of months ago. There will no doubt be the odd asshat who does something stupid, just as there are idiots leaving the occasional pig's head on the doorsteps of mosques - that is nothing new and is usually nothing more than a very limited group of idiots doing stupid things. I would imagine that when it kicks off in Gaza and Israel land as it does ever few years there will be a rise in asshattery to some degree but we are simply not hearing about anti-Semitic attacks in anything like the number that you guys seem to be reporting it. If I hear anything along these lines I will be sure to post it, but so far it seems to be same few reports regurgitated over and over again. I know right!? The Jews always think someone's out to get them
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:22:22 AM EDT
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A big part of the anti semitism is due to the media. I was in Greece recently on vacation and as I watched the news (Greek and British BBC), all they showed were mostly dead palestinian children and parents crying. They mentioned how the Israelis bombed hospitals and such. I know there are two sides to the story, but they didnt seem to discuss the other side. I'm really tired of hearing all this shit about how the bad Israelis bombed a hospital or 2 kids died or something, without learning about what kinds of rockets and other Snackbar items were deliberately parked right next door, and without hearing about the (completely unnecessary and tactically imprudent) warnings that Israel gives to people in those areas. I have a number of bad things to say about some of Israel's policies and past actions, but I really couldn't care less at this point if they just teed it up and firebombed all of Gaza, like we did to Dresden and Tokyo. Zero fucks would be given. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:26:58 AM EDT
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As long as religion is around there will be people who hate other people based off their religion.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:38:50 AM EDT
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As long as religion is around there will be people who hate other people based off their religion. Clearly we need atheist societies to bring us closer together. Do you have any good examples? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:40:00 AM EDT
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Clearly we need atheist societies to bring us closer together. Do you have any good examples? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As long as religion is around there will be people who hate other people based off their religion. Clearly we need atheist societies to bring us closer together. Do you have any good examples? California?
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:40:44 AM EDT
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Clearly we need atheist societies to bring us closer together. Do you have any good examples? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As long as religion is around there will be people who hate other people based off their religion. Clearly we need atheist societies to bring us closer together. Do you have any good examples? The Soviet Union. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:50:01 AM EDT
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You're being disingenuous. If you can't rely on a news stories and the like, whose authority do you accept? Look - I admit to the fact that the ADL research showing roughly 1/4 a the population of most European countries are antisemitic may be over the top, but you standing there and saying "nothing is happening" is akin to me living in rural Alabama and proclaiming "racism doesn't exist". Just because I can't see it doesn't mean that it isn't happening. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know very well what goes on in Malmö, and unlike you I don't rely on Google. You're being disingenuous. If you can't rely on a news stories and the like, whose authority do you accept? Look - I admit to the fact that the ADL research showing roughly 1/4 a the population of most European countries are antisemitic may be over the top, but you standing there and saying "nothing is happening" is akin to me living in rural Alabama and proclaiming "racism doesn't exist". Just because I can't see it doesn't mean that it isn't happening. I'm not saying that nothing is happening. I am saying that it's not as bad as you guys make it out to be. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:50:40 AM EDT
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That's going over the top. Cut that crap out. 
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We're a bit tired of the trailer trash fringe talking about matters they don't understand. That's going over the top. Cut that crap out.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:52:39 AM EDT
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I'm just here to see what outlandish nonsense Swede will post next. That's rich coming from the guy who failed middle school geography. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:54:46 AM EDT
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I'm just here to see what outlandish nonsense Swede will post next. That's rich coming from the guy who failed middle school geography. I'm still waiting for you to use the crayon to circle the area where Sweden borders Russia. We don't even have to get to middle school level. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:57:07 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting for you to use the crayon to circle the area where Sweden borders Russia. We don't even have to get to middle school level. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just here to see what outlandish nonsense Swede will post next. That's rich coming from the guy who failed middle school geography. I'm still waiting for you to use the crayon to circle the area where Sweden borders Russia. We don't even have to get to middle school level. What does any of this have to with the Antisemitism? Your poor grasp of geography is a subject for another thread. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 5:59:33 AM EDT
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What does any of this have to with the Antisemitism? Your poor grasp of geography is a subject for another thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm still waiting for you to use the crayon to circle the area where Sweden borders Russia. We don't even have to get to middle school level. What does any of this have to with the Antisemitism? Your poor grasp of geography is a subject for another thread. It has to do with your credibility. You think Sweden borders Russia and you think maps don't change in Europe, which renders pretty much anything you post incredible. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:01:38 AM EDT
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It has to do with your credibility. You think Sweden borders Russia and you think maps don't change in Europe, which renders pretty much anything you post incredible. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm still waiting for you to use the crayon to circle the area where Sweden borders Russia. We don't even have to get to middle school level. What does any of this have to with the Antisemitism? Your poor grasp of geography is a subject for another thread. It has to do with your credibility. You think Sweden borders Russia and you think maps don't change in Europe, which renders pretty much anything you post incredible. Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:04:24 AM EDT
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:06:03 AM EDT
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200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:11:46 AM EDT
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EU politicians speak out after wave of anti-Semitic attacks
Jewish leaders report a rising tide of racism across Western Europe following Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip 22 Jul 2014 The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy have spoken out against a disturbing wave of violent anti-Semitic attacks across Europe in the wake of the Gaza crisis. In Berlin, police had to step in to protect an Israeli tourist couple at the weekend after protestors turned on them when they spotted the man’s yarmulke. Demonstrators reportedly charged towards the couple shouting “Jew! We’ll get you!” In Paris, hundreds of protestors have attacked synagogues, smashed the windows of Jewish shops and cafes, and set several alight, including a kosher grocery store which reportedly burned to the ground. In the Netherlands, the home of the chief rabbi has been attacked with stones twice in one week. “Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” the German, French and Italian foreign ministers said in a joint statement. In the west German city of Essen, 14 people have been arrested on suspicion of planning an attack on the city’s Old Synagogue.
There have been reports of protestors in Germany chanting “Jews to the gas chambers”, and police in Berlin have banned protestors from using another popular slogan: “Jew, Jew, cowardly pig, come out and fight alone”. Police have opened an investigation into the imam of a Berlin mosque after he allegedly called on Muslims to murder Jews in a sermon. “They are not screaming ‘Death to the Israelis’ on the streets of Paris. They are screaming ‘Death to the Jews’,” said Roger Cukierman of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France. 
Notice the common denominator in each country when it comes to violence against Jewish citizens? Nice Al-Qaeda flag openly displayed in Berlin in July 2014. One would "never have considered it possible that anti-Semitic shouts would be heard on German streets and chanted in a most primitive way", said the Central Council's president Dieter Graumann. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10983472/EU-politicians-speak-out-after-wave-of-anti-Semitic-attacks.html |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:26:04 AM EDT
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? We have troops in Germany..........does Germany border the USA? How about South Korea? |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:30:09 AM EDT
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? We have troops in Germany..........does Germany border the USA? How about South Korea? Does your coastline border theirs?
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:31:06 AM EDT
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:31:17 AM EDT
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? You mean "maritime boundaries" that exist by either custom or treaty? Those aren't borders. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:32:06 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:32:07 AM EDT
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You mean "maritime boundaries" that exist by either custom or treaty? Those aren't borders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? You mean "maritime boundaries" that exist by either custom or treaty? Those aren't borders. The USA has ALOT more borders than we thought!! |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:32:12 AM EDT
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EU politicians speak out after wave of anti-Semitic attacks Jewish leaders report a rising tide of racism across Western Europe following Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip 22 Jul 2014 http://jpg.euractiv.com/files/styles/x-large/public/14641732001_4a5cbe3b53_b.jpg?itok=W8JkbXkH Notice the common denominator in each country when it comes to violence against Jewish citizens? Nice Al-Qaeda flag openly displayed in Berlin in July 2014. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10983472/EU-politicians-speak-out-after-wave-of-anti-Semitic-attacks.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
EU politicians speak out after wave of anti-Semitic attacks Jewish leaders report a rising tide of racism across Western Europe following Israel's assault on the Gaza Strip 22 Jul 2014 The foreign ministers of Germany, France and Italy have spoken out against a disturbing wave of violent anti-Semitic attacks across Europe in the wake of the Gaza crisis. In Berlin, police had to step in to protect an Israeli tourist couple at the weekend after protestors turned on them when they spotted the man’s yarmulke. Demonstrators reportedly charged towards the couple shouting “Jew! We’ll get you!” In Paris, hundreds of protestors have attacked synagogues, smashed the windows of Jewish shops and cafes, and set several alight, including a kosher grocery store which reportedly burned to the ground. In the Netherlands, the home of the chief rabbi has been attacked with stones twice in one week. “Anti-Semitic rhetoric and hostility against Jews, attacks on people of Jewish belief and synagogues have no place in our societies,” the German, French and Italian foreign ministers said in a joint statement. In the west German city of Essen, 14 people have been arrested on suspicion of planning an attack on the city’s Old Synagogue.
There have been reports of protestors in Germany chanting “Jews to the gas chambers”, and police in Berlin have banned protestors from using another popular slogan: “Jew, Jew, cowardly pig, come out and fight alone”. Police have opened an investigation into the imam of a Berlin mosque after he allegedly called on Muslims to murder Jews in a sermon. “They are not screaming ‘Death to the Israelis’ on the streets of Paris. They are screaming ‘Death to the Jews’,” said Roger Cukierman of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France. http://jpg.euractiv.com/files/styles/x-large/public/14641732001_4a5cbe3b53_b.jpg?itok=W8JkbXkH Notice the common denominator in each country when it comes to violence against Jewish citizens? Nice Al-Qaeda flag openly displayed in Berlin in July 2014. One would "never have considered it possible that anti-Semitic shouts would be heard on German streets and chanted in a most primitive way", said the Central Council's president Dieter Graumann. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/10983472/EU-politicians-speak-out-after-wave-of-anti-Semitic-attacks.html Exactly what I was saying then. An increase in protesting asshats shouting slogans and exercising their right to freedom of speech in response to what they see as an unjust situation in Gaza. Hardly a rise in anti-semitism across Europe despite the drama you try to play into it. As for you insinuation about the demographics - lets add a little context int that shall we ? http://www.islamicpopulation.com/Europe/europe_islam.html So we have a minority of a minority protesting against a war, and some of that minority go on to commit acts of vandalism when tensions are highest. A minority of that minority of the monitory of the monitory will be hard-line anti-semitic haters who will be carrying out low level vandalism and "hate-crimes" on a regular basis. All you are doing is undermining your own credibility by claiming that extreme anti-semitism is taking hold of Europe again. Nice try Balista, but you are miles off, mate. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:32:31 AM EDT
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Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. Yup. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:35:01 AM EDT
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Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders.
You do know that there's quite a bit of difference in the distance right? You guys have reached new heights of stupidity. I sincerely hope you're trolling. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:35:13 AM EDT
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You mean "maritime boundaries" that exist by either custom or treaty? Those aren't borders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sweden does border Russia. What on Earth makes you think differently? You might as well argue that the US doesn't border Cuba. 200 miles worth of water makes me think that. The U.S. doesn't border Cuba (unless you want to get really technical and include Gitmo in the discussion) any more than it borders Guatemala or Venzuela. So naval borders don't exist? You mean "maritime boundaries" that exist by either custom or treaty? Those aren't borders.
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:35:36 AM EDT
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Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. That's not how it works. Try again. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:35:54 AM EDT
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I would say yes that is definitely a contributing factor in countries like France. I don't see how anyone can deny this with a straight face. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A wonder if it is the influx of Muslims in Europe that is causing this. I would say yes that is definitely a contributing factor in countries like France. I don't see how anyone can deny this with a straight face. I agree, and I don't think anyone is denying that. What I am questioning (and extremely skeptical of), is the related claim made in this thread that anti-semitism is generally rising in Europe OUTSIDE of the muslim immigrants, who (as Agent_Funky pointed out) always gets restless whenever Israel and the Palis go at it. In others words, I agree that muslim immigration has brought with it an increase in anti-semitism (thus somewhat increasing the overall level in a given society, and probably most in France due to their high level of immigration) - but I doubt that the overall level has ALSO risen an additional amount because of an increase in anti-semitism in the "native" populations of European countries. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:36:20 AM EDT
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. Yup. You guys are truly deranged. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:36:22 AM EDT
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Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders. I understand where Swede is coming from. From a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:37:32 AM EDT
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Any country that isn't completely landlocked borders the U.S., by his definition. That's not how it works. Try again. Oh right, I forgot. They also have to have missiles pointed at us. Lots to remember with your definition of these things. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:38:21 AM EDT
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I understand where Swede is coming from. From a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.................... Does your coastline border theirs? Korea's does............if you look at the map liberally. Same for Germany...........you can find water between our borders. I understand where Swede is coming from. From a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. According to GD maritime borders aren't real. |
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:38:51 AM EDT
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Oh right, I forgot. They also have to have missiles pointed at us. Lots to remember with your definition of these things. 
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Posted: 7/24/2014 6:39:51 AM EDT
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From a strategic standpoint the UK has long considered that it has a border with France even though it is separated by the English Channel - it is something we have fought over and have fortified for centuries. Having a border close to any potential enemy cannot be dismissed just because there is a short stretch of water between the two land masses. This has been the case since the dawn of maritime history. Does the U.S. border Japan? |
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