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Posted: 7/22/2014 11:13:16 AM EDT
How fast is the top of one of the wheels going in relation to the road?

How fast is the bottom the wheel going in relation to the road?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:14:03 AM EDT
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Is the road really a treadmill?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:14:05 AM EDT
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Depends on the diameter of the tires.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:14:09 AM EDT
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55 mph
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:14:11 AM EDT
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Depends on the radius of the wheel?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:14:48 AM EDT
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:15:33 AM EDT
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87mph
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:15:39 AM EDT
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Ohhhh shit. Here comes the GD physics.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:16:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:16:59 AM EDT
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Yep. Bottom of the wheel isn't accelerating, the road is pushing it forward.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:17:18 AM EDT
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Yup..
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:17:36 AM EDT
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That would be my thought as well.



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:17:52 AM EDT
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:17:58 AM EDT
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What if its on a treadmill?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:18:38 AM EDT
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Is the road blind the whole time?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:19:06 AM EDT
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.


He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.


Not that smart.  I just know how to google.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:19:12 AM EDT
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Came to post this.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:19:25 AM EDT
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.


The Beer and Johnston text, preferably.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:19:33 AM EDT
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.


He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.


Bingo. Instantaneous angular velocity.  Top of the tire is doing double the cars pace, and the bottom is stationary, although only at that one instant when the points are TDC and BDC respectively.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:21:03 AM EDT
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.


This is really a case where "close enough" gets the job done in practice.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:21:30 AM EDT
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.




This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.



And I ain't explaining it either.
How can a question be mute?  The word you were thinking of is moot, as in a moot point.

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:21:43 AM EDT
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Would love to calculate, but I do not have such a large treadmill to test it on.


Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:22:17 AM EDT
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If I turn on the windshield wipers, what is their speed in relation to the road?  Now, what is their velocity? (use graph)
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:22:53 AM EDT
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.



And I ain't explaining it either.
You can mute the question, but grammar Nazi says your post is moot.

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:23:09 AM EDT
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.



And I ain't explaining it either.


Can you explain how a question is moot?







 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:23:10 AM EDT
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Is the car airborne?

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:25:26 AM EDT
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Can you explain how a question is moot?


 
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.

Can you explain how a question is moot?


 



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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:28:40 AM EDT
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.
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This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.


This guy gets it
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:29:27 AM EDT
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Is the question about speed or velocity?

Speed is found by dividing the circumference of the circle by the time taken to move around the circle
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:30:34 AM EDT
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.




This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.



And I ain't explaining it either.


Can you explain how a question is moot?





 
If the answer is imaginary, the points don't exists and the question is moot...
do moot questions exists?







 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:33:01 AM EDT
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Would love to calculate, but I do not have such a large treadmill to test it on.


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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:33:31 AM EDT
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The mute moot mute Moot was mute until he made a mute moot point.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:34:23 AM EDT
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Would love to calculate, but I do not have such a large treadmill to test it on.


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I can hear RAH now: "Finally!"
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:35:14 AM EDT
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No. Wrong logo on door, improper paint scheme.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:36:28 AM EDT
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Wait a minute - you ARE an engineering student, aren't you? You just tricked me into doing half your homework for you!

Well played, but you still have to show the work.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:39:33 AM EDT
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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.


This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.
How can a question be mute?  The word you were thinking of is moot, as in a moot point.  


I hate it when I'm not smart enough for people to assume I'm making a funny rather than a mistake.

Here's another point about points when we're discussing points in time. I like to mess with the scouts over stuff like this.

If a point in time doesn't exist then it can never really BE that time. It's always before or after. Say, 5 o'clock. It's never actually 5 o'clock. Always before or after.

Same principle can be used in measurement. Take a "5 inch long" steel bar. The bar will never be exactly 5 inches long. If you placed one end on plane zero, the plane of the other end of the bar will always be either short of or past the plane which is exactly 5 inches away from the first because that plane doesn't physically exist.

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:42:50 AM EDT
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yep
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:43:15 AM EDT
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110 mph
0 mph
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:45:11 AM EDT
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Yep. Bottom of the wheel isn't accelerating, the road is pushing it forward.
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Yep. Bottom of the wheel isn't accelerating, the road is pushing it forward.
road is stationary.  friction between the rolling tire and stationary roadway moves car...



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:54:23 AM EDT
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I've often thought about fabricating a low observable motorcycle with RAM, and having the lower half of the front wheel exposed, hoping that the Doppler return off of the lower part of the wheel might be enough to bias the calculation low.

And then I got sidetracked designing an Electronic Warfare system, and incorporating EW apertures into the design.  Given the limited alternator capacity of your average motorcycle, the solution was a pair of capacitor banks in the sidecases.

And then there are the IR aspects and trying to balance those against LIDAR.

It never ends!
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 11:58:21 AM EDT
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Ohhhh shit. Here comes the GD physics trigonometry.
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:03:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:03:16 PM EDT
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1.21 jiggawatts.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:07:54 PM EDT
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.
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He is correct on the zero part where the tire touches the road.  For an explanation I suggest taking Statics & Dynamics 101 at your local Engineering school.

Good old bedford and fowler
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:08:01 PM EDT
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This is covered in the first week of calculus in the theory and application of limits.

Where does the time just before and just after 5 o'clock converge?  It converges to 5 o'clock.  Same with the rule at the 5 inch plane, except we have to discriminate between a real ruler and a theoretical ruler with a length that is infinitesimally close to 5 inches.



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110 mph, and zero.  And no, I'm not explaining it.


This. But it's only the two points on the tire and a point doesn't exist, so the question is mute.

And I ain't explaining it either.
How can a question be mute?  The word you were thinking of is moot, as in a moot point.  


I hate it when I'm not smart enough for people to assume I'm making a funny rather than a mistake.

Here's another point about points when we're discussing points in time. I like to mess with the scouts over stuff like this.

If a point in time doesn't exist then it can never really BE that time. It's always before or after. Say, 5 o'clock. It's never actually 5 o'clock. Always before or after.

Same principle can be used in measurement. Take a "5 inch long" steel bar. The bar will never be exactly 5 inches long. If you placed one end on plane zero, the plane of the other end of the bar will always be either short of or past the plane which is exactly 5 inches away from the first because that plane doesn't physically exist.



This is covered in the first week of calculus in the theory and application of limits.

Where does the time just before and just after 5 o'clock converge?  It converges to 5 o'clock.  Same with the rule at the 5 inch plane, except we have to discriminate between a real ruler and a theoretical ruler with a length that is infinitesimally close to 5 inches.





Oh, I understand convergent points. I also get a kick out of seeing the smoke pouring out of a 14 year old boy's ears as he tries to grasp the fact that it is always before or after 5 o'clock.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:11:08 PM EDT
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0 fucks given.  This is why I did an MBA and not a masters in engineering.  Get back in there and don't come out til you have a 100mpg 450 horsepower 4400lbs sedan engineer monkey boy.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:13:09 PM EDT
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Apparently, the concept of zero is a fairly recent development.   And a mindblowing one it is.   The existence of zero as a place holder allows us to count higher than 9, and to contemplate complex mathematics.

I saw that on the Science Channel.

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:13:36 PM EDT
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this
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:14:05 PM EDT
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I hate it when I'm not smart enough for people to assume I'm making a funny rather than a mistake.



Here's another point about points when we're discussing points in time. I like to mess with the scouts over stuff like this.



If a point in time doesn't exist then it can never really BE that time. It's always before or after. Say, 5 o'clock. It's never actually 5 o'clock. Always before or after.



Same principle can be used in measurement. Take a "5 inch long" steel bar. The bar will never be exactly 5 inches long. If you placed one end on plane zero, the plane of the other end of the bar will always be either short of or past the plane which is exactly 5 inches away from the first because that plane doesn't physically exist.







This is covered in the first week of calculus in the theory and application of limits.



Where does the time just before and just after 5 o'clock converge?  It converges to 5 o'clock.  Same with the rule at the 5 inch plane, except we have to discriminate between a real ruler and a theoretical ruler with a length that is infinitesimally close to 5 inches.




Oh, I understand convergent points. I also get a kick out of seeing the smoke pouring out of a 14 year old boy's ears as he tries to grasp the fact that it is always before or after 5 o'clock.


Next time ask them about .9bar and its relationship to 1



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:14:22 PM EDT
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Is it always before or after 4:59?





 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 12:17:18 PM EDT
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Was the tire used by Al Pacino ?
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