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Posted: 8/11/2014 10:42:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no sympathy for them. The same neighborhood where his rally was held is the same one where every one is crying because stops are down 93% and crime is up. The people there, as usual, can never make up their minds. Cops stop people they complain, cops cease stopping people and they complain. Every thing is always someone else's fault. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That doesn't make the pretext any less bullshit. I have no sympathy for them. The same neighborhood where his rally was held is the same one where every one is crying because stops are down 93% and crime is up. The people there, as usual, can never make up their minds. Cops stop people they complain, cops cease stopping people and they complain. Every thing is always someone else's fault. Our statements aren't incompatible. The pretext is bullshit, the community is filled with shitbirds, no conflict. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 11:03:42 AM EDT
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Mayor tells NYers "Don't resist arrest"
Mayor Bill de Blasio gave his unflinching support Wednesday to a call from the city’s top cop that New Yorkers being placed under arrest should submit to police rather than fight back.
“When a police officer comes to the decision that it’s time to arrest someone, that individual is obligated to submit to arrest,” the mayor said. “They will then have every opportunity for due process in our court system.” De Blasio said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton was “absolutely right” for urging an end to a recent spate of incidents in which cops were forced to subdue alleged law-breakers physically. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 11:05:39 AM EDT
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Mayor says city is "blessed to have Bratton as PC"
Mayor de Blasio staunchly defended his police commissioner Wednesday and called the idea he would dump him over tensions with Al Sharpton “idiotic.”
“We are blessed to have Bill Bratton as our commissioner,” the mayor said. “He and I are absolutely united in our approach to fighting crime and bringing police and community together. We share a vision.” The testy mayor trashed a report in DNAinfo that claimed he would ditch his top cop if necessary to keep Sharpton on his side. “This is ludicrous. It’s inappropriate. It’s idiotic,” he said. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 11:32:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Mayor tells NYers "Don't resist arrest" Mayor Bill de Blasio gave his unflinching support Wednesday to a call from the city’s top cop that New Yorkers being placed under arrest should submit to police rather than fight back. "When a police officer comes to the decision that it’s time to arrest someone, that individual is obligated to submit to arrest,” the mayor said. "They will then have every opportunity for due process in our court system.” De Blasio said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton was "absolutely right” for urging an end to a recent spate of incidents in which cops were forced to subdue alleged law-breakers physically. Well bless his heart. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 1:12:22 PM EDT
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Mayor tells NYers "Don't resist arrest" Mayor Bill de Blasio gave his unflinching support Wednesday to a call from the city’s top cop that New Yorkers being placed under arrest should submit to police rather than fight back.
"When a police officer comes to the decision that it’s time to arrest someone, that individual is obligated to submit to arrest,” the mayor said. "They will then have every opportunity for due process in our court system.” De Blasio said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton was "absolutely right” for urging an end to a recent spate of incidents in which cops were forced to subdue alleged law-breakers physically. Well bless his heart. A lot of people aren't going to like that statement from De Blas. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 1:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of people aren't going to like that statement from De Blas. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mayor tells NYers "Don't resist arrest" Mayor Bill de Blasio gave his unflinching support Wednesday to a call from the city’s top cop that New Yorkers being placed under arrest should submit to police rather than fight back. "When a police officer comes to the decision that it’s time to arrest someone, that individual is obligated to submit to arrest,” the mayor said. "They will then have every opportunity for due process in our court system.” De Blasio said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton was "absolutely right” for urging an end to a recent spate of incidents in which cops were forced to subdue alleged law-breakers physically. Well bless his heart. A lot of people aren't going to like that statement from De Blas. This is going to be the opening aria in the opera that is the collectivist internal conflict. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 1:36:47 PM EDT
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Mayor tells NYers "Don't resist arrest" Mayor Bill de Blasio gave his unflinching support Wednesday to a call from the city’s top cop that New Yorkers being placed under arrest should submit to police rather than fight back.
“When a police officer comes to the decision that it’s time to arrest someone, that individual is obligated to submit to arrest,” the mayor said. “They will then have every opportunity for due process in our court system.” De Blasio said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton was “absolutely right” for urging an end to a recent spate of incidents in which cops were forced to subdue alleged law-breakers physically. Submit to your masters, peasants. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 2:44:35 PM EDT
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Step 1: make so many things illegal that everyone is always breaking some law or other at all times.
Step 2: arrest your enemies. Step 3: define resisting as anything other than giving the cops a blowjob while they put the cuffs on. Step 4: ??? Step 5: profit!  
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Posted: 8/14/2014 3:43:21 PM EDT
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Congressional delegation wants case to go federal
A half-dozen members of the city's congressional delegation say it's time to turn the chokehold death of Eric Garner into a federal case.
U.S. Reps. Hakeem Jeffries, Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clark called Thursday for the U.S. Department of Justice to open an investigation into the July 17 death of the Staten Island man after his takedown by the NYPD. "The family of Eric Garner deserves an independent and impartial investigation," said Jeffries. "The only way for that to happen is for the Department of Justice to step in and get involved." The trio joined three New York congressional colleagues — Charles Rangel, Nydia Velazquez and Jose Serrano — in sending a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder about the case. The nation's top prosecutor has said his office is "closely monitoring" the city probe into Garner's death |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 4:52:50 PM EDT
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Congressional delegation wants case to go federal A half-dozen members of the city's congressional delegation say it's time to turn the chokehold death of Eric Garner into a federal case.
U.S. Reps. Hakeem Jeffries, Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clark called Thursday for the U.S. Department of Justice to open an investigation into the July 17 death of the Staten Island man after his takedown by the NYPD. "The family of Eric Garner deserves an independent and impartial investigation," said Jeffries. "The only way for that to happen is for the Department of Justice to step in and get involved." The trio joined three New York congressional colleagues — Charles Rangel, Nydia Velazquez and Jose Serrano — in sending a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder about the case. The nation's top prosecutor has said his office is "closely monitoring" the city probe into Garner's death Seems a little premature if the department hasn't even finished their investigation. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 5:14:40 PM EDT
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Congressional delegation wants case to go federal A half-dozen members of the city's congressional delegation say it's time to turn the chokehold death of Eric Garner into a federal case.
U.S. Reps. Hakeem Jeffries, Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clark called Thursday for the U.S. Department of Justice to open an investigation into the July 17 death of the Staten Island man after his takedown by the NYPD. "The family of Eric Garner deserves an independent and impartial investigation," said Jeffries. "The only way for that to happen is for the Department of Justice to step in and get involved." The trio joined three New York congressional colleagues — Charles Rangel, Nydia Velazquez and Jose Serrano — in sending a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder about the case. The nation's top prosecutor has said his office is "closely monitoring" the city probe into Garner's death Seems a little premature if the department hasn't even finished their investigation. Meh, I saw this coming the day the story broke. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 9:45:52 PM EDT
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Step 1: make so many things illegal that everyone is always breaking some law or other at all times. Step 2: arrest your enemies. Step 3: define resisting as anything other than giving the cops a blowjob while they put the cuffs on. Step 4: ??? Step 5: profit! my grandfather who was in a siberian goulag for 23 years explained this exact situation as Stalins method of fixing russia. |
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Posted: 8/14/2014 10:06:07 PM EDT
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Congressional delegation wants case to go federal A half-dozen members of the city's congressional delegation say it's time to turn the chokehold death of Eric Garner into a federal case.
U.S. Reps. Hakeem Jeffries, Gregory Meeks and Yvette Clark called Thursday for the U.S. Department of Justice to open an investigation into the July 17 death of the Staten Island man after his takedown by the NYPD. "The family of Eric Garner deserves an independent and impartial investigation," said Jeffries. "The only way for that to happen is for the Department of Justice to step in and get involved." The trio joined three New York congressional colleagues — Charles Rangel, Nydia Velazquez and Jose Serrano — in sending a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder about the case. The nation's top prosecutor has said his office is "closely monitoring" the city probe into Garner's death Seems a little premature if the department hasn't even finished their investigation. Meh, I saw this coming the day the story broke. Premature and predictable aren't incompatible. PS: There's a joke there somewhere. |
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Posted: 8/16/2014 1:17:11 PM EDT
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STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- A social media rally in support of the NYPD is planned for noon on Friday in light of the controversy over the death of Eric Garner following an altercation with police on Staten Island.
At least 8,000 people plan to participate in the Facebook rally hosted by James Thomson, who identifies himself on his Facebook page as an attorney with Russo, Scamardella & Damato in West Brighton on Staten Island. "WITHOUT TAKING A POSITION ON THE ERIC GARNER CASE, it seems the police have been catching a lot of public flack lately. Still, many brave men and women risk their lives every day protecting our community," says a message on the rally Facebook page. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 12:52:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: LINK STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- A social media rally in support of the NYPD is planned for noon on Friday in light of the controversy over the death of Eric Garner following an altercation with police on Staten Island. At least 8,000 people plan to participate in the Facebook rally hosted by James Thomson, who identifies himself on his Facebook page as an attorney with Russo, Scamardella & Damato in West Brighton on Staten Island. "WITHOUT TAKING A POSITION ON THE ERIC GARNER CASE, it seems the police have been catching a lot of public flack lately. Still, many brave men and women risk their lives every day protecting our community," says a message on the rally Facebook page. Some people like it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 10:53:06 AM EDT
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Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse
A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault.
Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. “It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. “Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. “Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 10:54:56 AM EDT
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Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault.
Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. “It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. “Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. “Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” 
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Posted: 8/17/2014 11:10:51 AM EDT
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Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault.
Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. “It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. “Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. “Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z316/runcible22/oh-yes-suck-it-bitch_zpse33b69ea.jpg http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z316/runcible22/nyclu_middlefinger_cop_130207a-615x345-1_zps93c3fc15.jpg 
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Posted: 8/17/2014 11:15:07 AM EDT
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Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault.
Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. “It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. “Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. “Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” This is a completely unforeseen turn of events! |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 11:16:30 AM EDT
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Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault.
Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. “It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. “Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. “Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” This is a completely unforeseen turn of events! "I, for one, am baffled!" |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:46:22 PM EDT
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When will people learn not to fight with cops? I just do not understand it. My Dad told me many years ago, "Son, do not fight with the cops because they can do anything to you they want. When the cops arrive, stop, put your hands up, smile and say "Yes sir" and do what you're told. Then go to court and hope the cop doesn't show or you get a judge that dislikes cops". Follow those rules and more often than not you'll be fine. I used to think it was funny when I was younger, the cops would show up, I'd follow my Dad's advice and my friends would fuck with the cops. Most of the time, after they dealt with my idiot friends, one of the cops would look at me and say "Why are you standing there with your hands up? Get lost and don't let me see you again tonight". Seriously, it's not rocket surgery. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 2:47:32 PM EDT
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NY's "Finest" going to prison. With a Staten Island jury or bench trial? I wouldn't be so sure. |
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Posted: 8/17/2014 3:00:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:22:21 PM EDT
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NY's "Finest" going to prison. With a Staten Island jury or bench trial? I wouldn't be so sure. Even if he beats a state trial he's probably going to get charged federally like Livoti. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:25:26 PM EDT
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http://nypost.com/2014/08/13/wise-words-from-nycs-top-cop/
"What we’ve seen in the past few months is a number of individuals failing to understand that you must submit to arrest, you cannot resist,” Bratton said in an interview on Brian Lehrer’s radio show. "The place to argue your case is in the court, not in the street.” As Bratton said from the outset, "My officers are not going to walk away” when someone resists arrest. He also notes that cops aren’t in the harassment business. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 1:27:23 PM EDT
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If they settle they can slowly walk back to lesser charges. Once the family is paid everyone will be on a drunken stupor or on a high-high, the PBA lawyers will make deals then. It's all about money There won't be any settlement until after the criminal phase is done. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:51:40 PM EDT
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There won't be any settlement until after the criminal phase is done. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they settle they can slowly walk back to lesser charges. Once the family is paid everyone will be on a drunken stupor or on a high-high, the PBA lawyers will make deals then. It's all about money There won't be any settlement until after the criminal phase is done. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:53:41 PM EDT
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Would the city want it to go to a jury of his "peers"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they settle they can slowly walk back to lesser charges. Once the family is paid everyone will be on a drunken stupor or on a high-high, the PBA lawyers will make deals then. It's all about money There won't be any settlement until after the criminal phase is done. City is going to be paying millions no matter what. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 4:54:56 PM EDT
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If they settle they can slowly walk back to lesser charges. Once the family is paid everyone will be on a drunken stupor or on a high-high, the PBA lawyers will make deals then. It's all about money There won't be any settlement until after the criminal phase is done. City is going to be paying millions no matter what. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 5:02:53 PM EDT
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In the demographics of SI? A good chunk of SI is shitty. Not sure if the DA there will charge him. Either way, if he doesn't get charged or if he does and he beats the case, they'll charge him federally. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 5:15:55 PM EDT
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A good chunk of SI is shitty. Not sure if the DA there will charge him. Either way, if he doesn't get charged or if he does and he beats the case, they'll charge him federally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In the demographics of SI? A good chunk of SI is shitty. Not sure if the DA there will charge him. Either way, if he doesn't get charged or if he does and he beats the case, they'll charge him federally. |
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Posted: 8/18/2014 5:49:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "I, for one, am baffled!" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Neighborhood where Eric Garner died has gotten worse A rattled Staten Island landlord repeatedly contacted the cops about the nightmare on Bay St.: dope dealers, cigarette peddlers, public urination, threats of rape and assault. Then Eric Garner, a suspected seller of untaxed cigarettes, died in the midst of his July 17 arrest. A month later, things on the block are even more out of control. "It has only gotten worse, much worse, since Eric died,” the landlord told the Daily News ahead of Sunday’s one-month anniversary of Garner’s death. "Now the police, they don’t want to have another incident there so they have a hands-off approach,” said the landlord, who asked not to be identified. "Anyway you slice it, it’s a mess.” This is a completely unforeseen turn of events! "I, for one, am baffled!" Looks like SI got the police department they deserve.
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Posted: 8/18/2014 6:03:08 PM EDT
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Looks like SI got the police department they deserve. They can share in the fun that Brooklyn North is having. |
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Posted: 8/19/2014 1:34:10 PM EDT
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Going to the Grand Jury
A Staten Island grand jury will finally begin hearing evidence next month in the July chokehold death of an asthmatic father of six who died in police custody.
The borough’s district attorney announced the panel’s impending work Tuesday in a three-paragraph statement issued two days after the one-month anniversary of Eric Garner’s death. “Based upon the investigation that my office has conducted to date ... I have determined that it is appropriate to present evidence regarding the circumstances of his death to a Richmond County grand jury,” prosecutor Daniel Donovan said. “I intend to utilize that grand jury sometime next month to begin presenting evidence in this matter.” Though the New York City Medical Examiner declared Garner’s death a homicide following an autopsy, not a single suspect has yet been charged or arrested in connection with his death. News of the grand jury was greeted coolly by the dead man’s family, with his widow, Esaw Garner, declining to comment Tuesday. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 10:11:55 AM EDT
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Rev. Al Sharpton cools rhetoric at ‘chokehold’ summit
The Rev. Al Sharpton said Wednesday that he’s bringing members of Missouri cop-slaying victim Michael Brown’s family to the Staten Island protest against police brutality, as Mayor de Blasio convened a clergy summit Wednesday to “send a message of peace and reconciliation.”
Sharpton was part of the clergy meeting at Timothy Cardinal Dolan’s residence and emerged much more conciliatory than when he clashed with Police Commissioner Bratton at a similar session three weeks ago in City Hall. “All police are not bad, most are not bad,” said Sharpton. “And they should not be colored by the activities of individuals, any more than a black that does wrong should color me.” |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 10:34:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Rev. Al Sharpton cools rhetoric at ‘chokehold’ summit The Rev. Al Sharpton said Wednesday that he’s bringing members of Missouri cop-slaying victim Michael Brown’s family to the Staten Island protest against police brutality, as Mayor de Blasio convened a clergy summit Wednesday to "send a message of peace and reconciliation.” Sharpton was part of the clergy meeting at Timothy Cardinal Dolan’s residence and emerged much more conciliatory than when he clashed with Police Commissioner Bratton at a similar session three weeks ago in City Hall. "All police are not bad, most are not bad,” said Sharpton. "And they should not be colored by the activities of individuals, any more than a black that does wrong should color me.” Where's the "separation of church and state" rhetoric now?  |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 11:36:44 AM EDT
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Going to the Grand Jury A Staten Island grand jury will finally begin hearing evidence next month in the July chokehold death of an asthmatic father of six who died in police custody.
The borough’s district attorney announced the panel’s impending work Tuesday in a three-paragraph statement issued two days after the one-month anniversary of Eric Garner’s death. “Based upon the investigation that my office has conducted to date ... I have determined that it is appropriate to present evidence regarding the circumstances of his death to a Richmond County grand jury,” prosecutor Daniel Donovan said. “I intend to utilize that grand jury sometime next month to begin presenting evidence in this matter.” Though the New York City Medical Examiner declared Garner’s death a homicide following an autopsy, not a single suspect has yet been charged or arrested in connection with his death. News of the grand jury was greeted coolly by the dead man’s family, with his widow, Esaw Garner, declining to comment Tuesday. I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 11:45:34 AM EDT
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I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. He's got a good shot with a Staten Island grand jury. Not so much with the feds. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:18:00 PM EDT
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I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. He's got a good shot with a Staten Island grand jury. Not so much with the feds. Yeah but the feds don't win all of them. They lost the one here in B'ham. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:45:38 PM EDT
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I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. He's got a good shot with a Staten Island grand jury. Not so much with the feds. Yeah but the feds don't win all of them. They lost the one here in B'ham. The last chokehold guy here got 7.5 years in prison from the feds. |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:47:47 PM EDT
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I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. He's got a good shot with a Staten Island grand jury. Not so much with the feds. Yeah but the feds don't win all of them. They lost the one here in B'ham. The last chokehold guy here got 7.5 years in prison from the feds. Was it a real chokehold because this case is not? |
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Posted: 8/21/2014 12:58:17 PM EDT
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The last chokehold guy here got 7.5 years in prison from the feds. Was it a real chokehold because this case is not? Exact same findings from the autopsy back then and the guy was an asthmatic like Garner also. Doesn't matter anymore if it was a real chokehold because everyone believes and says it was including the guy's own department. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:45:47 AM EDT
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"Hats and Bats"
Hundreds of cops have been ordered to bring their “hats and bats” — helmets and old-school wooden nightsticks — to the Rev. Al Sharpton’s march against police brutality, sources said Thursday.
About 350 officers, some on their days off, were told to report to the Staten Island rally at 6 a.m. Saturday, two hours earlier than usual. And while sources say the NYPD isn’t expecting anything like the riots that have rocked Ferguson, Mo., since a white cop fatally shot a black teen on Aug. 9, they are worried about outside agitators. “We have no reason to believe there will be any problems. Our only concern is that there will be outsiders coming to cause problems,” a police source said. ETA: The reporter should do some research and realize that probably 99% of the cops on the department now aren't allowed to carry "old-school wooden nightsticks". |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:53:01 AM EDT
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I'd rather go to grand jury than a direct charge like they did with Zimmerman. He's got a good shot with a Staten Island grand jury. Not so much with the feds. Yeah but the feds don't win all of them. They lost the one here in B'ham. The last chokehold guy here got 7.5 years in prison from the feds. So.. GJ says no, but the Feds say yes? How about actual acquittals? Do the feds get a second shot too? Double jeopardy doesn't mean much. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 10:55:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exact same findings from the autopsy back then and the guy was an asthmatic like Garner also. Doesn't matter anymore if it was a real chokehold because everyone believes and says it was including the guy's own department. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The last chokehold guy here got 7.5 years in prison from the feds. Was it a real chokehold because this case is not? Exact same findings from the autopsy back then and the guy was an asthmatic like Garner also. Doesn't matter anymore if it was a real chokehold because everyone believes and says it was including the guy's own department. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:03:43 AM EDT
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How about actual acquittals? Do the feds get a second shot too? Ask Francis Livoti. Livoti's trial began in September, 1996. He had waived his right to a jury trial and instead opted to have the case heard solely by a judge. In October 1996, Officer Francis Livoti was acquitted by a State Supreme Court Justice. Fearing reprisals and heeding to the outcries of the public, the federal government stepped in. In June 1998, Livoti was convicted in Federal court of violating Anthony Baez’s civil rights, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in federal prison. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 11:48:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How about actual acquittals? Do the feds get a second shot too? Ask Francis Livoti. Livoti's trial began in September, 1996. He had waived his right to a jury trial and instead opted to have the case heard solely by a judge. In October 1996, Officer Francis Livoti was acquitted by a State Supreme Court Justice. Fearing reprisals and heeding to the outcries of the public, the federal government stepped in. In June 1998, Livoti was convicted in Federal court of violating Anthony Baez’s civil rights, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in federal prison. "I'm not sayin' it's right, but I understand." |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:02:17 PM EDT
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Closed for business
Fearing Ferguson-style violence, several Staten Island merchants are planning to close their doors ahead of Saturday’s march against police brutality.
The Rev. Al Sharpton has insisted Saturday’s demonstration in honor of police chokehold victim Eric Garner will be peaceful. But some business owners aren’t taking any chances — especially in light of the recent clashes between cops and protesters in Ferguson, Mo., after a cop shot and killed 18-year-old Michael Brown. “It’s no secret what’s going on in Missouri and what the potential is,” said Karl Reina, owner of Karl’s Klipper Restaurant on Bay St. Still, Reina said his chief reason for closing shop during the march is because he’s convinced the volume of people in the streets will impede his customers. |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:11:38 PM EDT
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How about actual acquittals? Do the feds get a second shot too? Ask Francis Livoti. Livoti's trial began in September, 1996. He had waived his right to a jury trial and instead opted to have the case heard solely by a judge. In October 1996, Officer Francis Livoti was acquitted by a State Supreme Court Justice. Fearing reprisals and heeding to the outcries of the public, the federal government stepped in. In June 1998, Livoti was convicted in Federal court of violating Anthony Baez’s civil rights, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in federal prison. "I'm not sayin' it's right, but I understand."
Was LIVOTI the cop who perforated a guys large intestine with a plunger while in custody? Or choked out the guy who hit his car with the football? If this is him, for once someone deserved the Federal Civil Rights Charge they nailed him with! |
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Posted: 8/22/2014 3:22:33 PM EDT
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Or choked out the guy who hit his car with the football? If this is him, for once someone deserved the Federal Civil Rights Charge they nailed him with! Football guy. |
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