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Posted: 6/15/2014 8:18:23 AM EDT
Interesting.

First time I've seen something non-quack like supporting fasting (for days, not the intermittent fasting / diet thing) as a way of improving health.

http://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-triggers-stem-cell-regeneration-of-damaged-old-immune-system/



Fasting triggers stem cell regeneration of damaged, old immune system
Protection from chemotherapy immunosuppression indicates effect could be conserved in humans

the first evidence of a natural intervention triggering stem cell-based regeneration of an organ or system, a study in the June 5 issue of the Cell Stem Cell shows that cycles of prolonged fasting not only protect against immune system damage — a major side effect of chemotherapy — but also induce immune system regeneration, shifting stem cells from a dormant state to a state of self-renewal.

In both mice and a Phase 1 human clinical trial involving patients receiving chemotherapy, long periods of not eating significantly lowered white blood cell counts. In mice, fasting cycles then “flipped a regenerative switch,” changing the signaling pathways for hematopoietic stem cells, which are responsible for the generation of blood and immune systems, the research showed.

The study has major implications for healthier aging, in which immune system decline contributes to increased susceptibility to disease as people age. By outlining how prolonged fasting cycles — periods of no food for two to four days at a time over the course of six months — kill older and damaged immune cells and generate new ones, the research also has implications for chemotherapy tolerance and for those with a wide range of immune system deficiencies, including autoimmunity disorders.

“We could not predict that prolonged fasting would have such a remarkable effect in promoting stem cell-based regeneration of the hematopoietic system,” said corresponding author Valter Longo, Edna M. Jones Professor of Gerontology and the Biological Sciences at the USC Davis School of Gerontology and director of the USC Longevity Institute. Longo has a joint appointment at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences.

“When you starve, the system tries to save energy, and one of the things it can do to save energy is to recycle a lot of the immune cells that are not needed, especially those that may be damaged,” Longo said. “What we started noticing in both our human work and animal work is that the white blood cell count goes down with prolonged fasting. Then when you re-feed, the blood cells come back. So we started thinking, well, where does it come from?”

Fasting cycles
Prolonged fasting forces the body to use stores of glucose, fat and ketones, but it also breaks down a significant portion of white blood cells. Longo likens the effect to lightening a plane of excess cargo.

During each cycle of fasting, this depletion of white blood cells induces changes that trigger stem cell-based regeneration of new immune system cells. In particular, prolonged fasting reduced the enzyme PKA, an effect previously discovered by the Longo team to extend longevity in simple organisms and which has been linked in other research to the regulation of stem cell self-renewal and pluripotency — that is, the potential for one cell to develop into many different cell types. Prolonged fasting also lowered levels of IGF-1, a growth-factor hormone that Longo and others have linked to aging, tumor progression and cancer risk.

“PKA is the key gene that needs to shut down in order for these stem cells to switch into regenerative mode. It gives the OK for stem cells to go ahead and begin proliferating and rebuild the entire system,” explained Longo, noting the potential of clinical applications that mimic the effects of prolonged fasting to rejuvenate the immune system. “And the good news is that the body got rid of the parts of the system that might be damaged or old, the inefficient parts, during the fasting. Now, if you start with a system heavily damaged by chemotherapy or aging, fasting cycles can generate, literally, a new immune system.”

Prolonged fasting also protected against toxicity in a pilot clinical trial in which a small group of patients fasted for a 72-hour period prior to chemotherapy, extending Longo’s influential past research.

“While chemotherapy saves lives, it causes significant collateral damage to the immune system. The results of this study suggest that fasting may mitigate some of the harmful effects of chemotherapy,” said co-author Tanya Dorff, assistant professor of clinical medicine at the USC Norris Comprehensive Cancer Center and Hospital. “More clinical studies are needed, and any such dietary intervention should be undertaken only under the guidance of a physician.”

“We are investigating the possibility that these effects are applicable to many different systems and organs, not just the immune system,” said Longo, whose lab is in the process of conducting further research on controlled dietary interventions and stem cell regeneration in both animal and clinical studies.

The study was supported by the National Institute of Aging of the National Institutes of Health (grant numbers AG20642, AG025135, P01AG34906). The clinical trial was supported by the V Foundation and the National Cancer Institute of the National Institutes of Health (P30CA014089).

Chia Wei-Cheng of USC Davis was first author of the study. Gregor Adams, Xiaoying Zhou and Ben Lam of the Eli and Edythe Broad Center for Regenerative Medicine and Stem Cell Research at USC; Laura Perin and Stefano Da Sacco of the Saban Research Institute at Children’s Hospital Los Angeles; Min Wei of USC Davis; Mario Mirisola of the University of Palermo; Dorff and David Quinn of the Keck School of Medicine of USC; and John Kopchick of Ohio University were co-authors of the study.

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Do it

Fasting "burns" cholesterol as fuel: Fasting reduces cholesterol levels in prediabetic people over extended period of time

For prediabetics, many interventions focus on lifestyle changes and weight loss, but new research on periodic fasting has identified a biological process in the body that converts bad cholesterol in fat cells to energy, thus combating diabetes risk factors.

Researchers at the Intermountain Heart Institute at Intermountain Medical Center in Murray, Utah, noticed that after 10 to 12 hours of time fasting, the body starts scavenging for other sources of energy throughout the body to sustain itself. The body pulls LDL (bad) cholesterol from the fat cells and uses it as energy.

"Fasting has the potential to become an important diabetes intervention," says Benjamin Horne, PhD, director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at the Intermountain Medical Center Heart Institute and lead researcher on the study. "Though we've studied fasting and it's health benefits for years, we didn't know why fasting could provide the health benefits we observed related to the risk of diabetes."
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:30:28 AM EDT
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Interesting...

However thought this was going to be about triggers
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:35:04 AM EDT
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Dupage


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I searched for "Fasting" in thread titles. no results for past 30 days.
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:42:08 AM EDT
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Maybe I missed it in the post, but how do they know the immune system "fixes" itself when it regenerates?

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yeap.

I was like, whoa, fast triggering fix the immune system Jerry Miculek is gonna live for ever
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:52:32 AM EDT
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Interdasting. Now the trick is finding a way to take off of work long enough to do this.
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 8:56:35 AM EDT
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Why couldn't it have been ice cream. Or beer?
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Fasting "burns" cholesterol as fuel: Fasting reduces cholesterol levels in prediabetic people over extended period of time

For prediabetics, many interventions focus on lifestyle changes and weight loss, but new research on periodic fasting has identified a biological process in the body that converts bad cholesterol in fat cells to energy, thus combating diabetes risk factors.

Researchers at the Intermountain Heart Institute at Intermountain Medical Center in Murray, Utah, noticed that after 10 to 12 hours of time fasting, the body starts scavenging for other sources of energy throughout the body to sustain itself. The body pulls LDL (bad) cholesterol from the fat cells and uses it as energy.

"Fasting has the potential to become an important diabetes intervention," says Benjamin Horne, PhD, director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at the Intermountain Medical Center Heart Institute and lead researcher on the study. "Though we've studied fasting and it's health benefits for years, we didn't know why fasting could provide the health benefits we observed related to the risk of diabetes."
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I'd heard and believed fasting was a good way to stop diabetes(Type 2)...about 40 years ago.  German clinics have decades of experience with this.
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Why do you have to take off work? I fast regularly, and there is no drop-off in strength or endurance. Mental acuity is enhanced.

Top 10 fasting myths debunked
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Why do you have to take off work? I fast regularly, and there is no drop-off in strength or endurance. Mental acuity is enhanced.



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How long do you fast? On the third day, I get weak and irritable. Interesting site.



 
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Why do you have to take off work? I fast regularly, and there is no drop-off in strength or endurance. Mental acuity is enhanced.

Top 10 fasting myths debunked

How long do you fast? On the third day, I get weak and irritable. Interesting site.
 


24 hours, twice a week (1 meal per day). The rest of the week I'm doing the Leangains 16 hour fast (3 meals).
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 11:51:17 AM EDT
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Nice.  

Link Posted: 6/15/2014 12:05:31 PM EDT
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I recall a co-worker some years back whose Father went into a month long fast to cure his Diabetes, I told him he was full of it.


Interesting.
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for later reading
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the research also has implications for chemotherapy tolerance and for those with a wide range of immune system deficiencies, including autoimmunity disorders.
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Anything on asthma, eczema, and allergies?
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 7:06:43 PM EDT
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting
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Link Posted: 6/15/2014 7:51:43 PM EDT
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16/8 seems to be working for me.. I'd love to do a whole day 1x or 2x a week, but I don't think I have the ability to do so without gnawing an arm off or something.
Link Posted: 6/15/2014 7:54:15 PM EDT
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Neat
Link Posted: 6/26/2014 8:35:37 PM EDT
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They said periodic fasting 2-4 days over six months but didn't give a concrete schedule. I'm going to do 3-4 days once a month. Tomorrow morning will be 2 days on this fast.
Link Posted: 6/27/2014 6:14:46 AM EDT
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They said periodic fasting 2-4 days over six months but didn't give a concrete schedule. I'm going to do 3-4 days once a month. Tomorrow morning will be 2 days on this fast.
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I did this last weekend.  It wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.  After doing my own research I'm going to an intermittent fast, water fasting alternate days.   I've done that this week, and found it tolerable.  Only drinking water on my fast days.  




Researchers are now asking if fasting activates stem cells activity in other organs?  For example studies on mice show neurogenesis (production of new neurons) in adult mice.  




For tens of thousands of years men ate an inconsistent diet.  Not only did food options change, but so did availability.  Humans involuntarily fasted from time to time.  It appears this might trigger a latent process of human physiology.  One that evolved over tens of thousands of years, but has been effectively shut down with the modern diet.




In the time scale of human history, eating multiple well-balanced meals every day is nothing but a recent fad.  




 

   
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Fasting "burns" cholesterol as fuel: Fasting reduces cholesterol levels in prediabetic people over extended period of time

For prediabetics, many interventions focus on lifestyle changes and weight loss, but new research on periodic fasting has identified a biological process in the body that converts bad cholesterol in fat cells to energy, thus combating diabetes risk factors.

Researchers at the Intermountain Heart Institute at Intermountain Medical Center in Murray, Utah, noticed that after 10 to 12 hours of time fasting, the body starts scavenging for other sources of energy throughout the body to sustain itself. The body pulls LDL (bad) cholesterol from the fat cells and uses it as energy.

"Fasting has the potential to become an important diabetes intervention," says Benjamin Horne, PhD, director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at the Intermountain Medical Center Heart Institute and lead researcher on the study. "Though we've studied fasting and it's health benefits for years, we didn't know why fasting could provide the health benefits we observed related to the risk of diabetes."
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my wife has to fast when she has blood drawn and she is diabetic.  she's barely able to walk sometimes and on the verge of passing out after only 12 hours of not eating.  how is going days benefit her?  "oh, she's in a coma, but darn it if she aint loosing some weight.....terrific."
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Cool result. Thanks for posting it.
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my wife has to fast when she has blood drawn and she is diabetic.  she's barely able to walk sometimes and on the verge of passing out after only 12 hours of not eating.  how is going days benefit her?  "oh, she's in a coma, but darn it if she aint loosing some weight.....terrific."
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Fasting "burns" cholesterol as fuel: Fasting reduces cholesterol levels in prediabetic people over extended period of time

For prediabetics, many interventions focus on lifestyle changes and weight loss, but new research on periodic fasting has identified a biological process in the body that converts bad cholesterol in fat cells to energy, thus combating diabetes risk factors.

Researchers at the Intermountain Heart Institute at Intermountain Medical Center in Murray, Utah, noticed that after 10 to 12 hours of time fasting, the body starts scavenging for other sources of energy throughout the body to sustain itself. The body pulls LDL (bad) cholesterol from the fat cells and uses it as energy.

"Fasting has the potential to become an important diabetes intervention," says Benjamin Horne, PhD, director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at the Intermountain Medical Center Heart Institute and lead researcher on the study. "Though we've studied fasting and it's health benefits for years, we didn't know why fasting could provide the health benefits we observed related to the risk of diabetes."



my wife has to fast when she has blood drawn and she is diabetic.  she's barely able to walk sometimes and on the verge of passing out after only 12 hours of not eating.  how is going days benefit her?  "oh, she's in a coma, but darn it if she aint loosing some weight.....terrific."


Might want to take a look at this.  She might be very dependent on sugars for her energy, get her switched over to burning fat for energy, then try fasting.

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Fasting "burns" cholesterol as fuel: Fasting reduces cholesterol levels in prediabetic people over extended period of time





For prediabetics, many interventions focus on lifestyle changes and weight loss, but new research on periodic fasting has identified a biological process in the body that converts bad cholesterol in fat cells to energy, thus combating diabetes risk factors.





Researchers at the Intermountain Heart Institute at Intermountain Medical Center in Murray, Utah, noticed that after 10 to 12 hours of time fasting, the body starts scavenging for other sources of energy throughout the body to sustain itself. The body pulls LDL (bad) cholesterol from the fat cells and uses it as energy.





"Fasting has the potential to become an important diabetes intervention," says Benjamin Horne, PhD, director of cardiovascular and genetic epidemiology at the Intermountain Medical Center Heart Institute and lead researcher on the study. "Though we've studied fasting and it's health benefits for years, we didn't know why fasting could provide the health benefits we observed related to the risk of diabetes."

my wife has to fast when she has blood drawn and she is diabetic.  she's barely able to walk sometimes and on the verge of passing out after only 12 hours of not eating.  how is going days benefit her?  "oh, she's in a coma, but darn it if she aint loosing some weight.....terrific."





 

My father (age 74) is a type 2 diabetic.  He isn't overweight and today is his 3rd day water fasting with moderate exercise (walking, yard work, etc).  He hasn't taken any insulin since Tuesday and his blood sugar is low.  He said he feels great.  He plans to go to an intermittent fast.  We also have a member here who uses it to stay off insulin.  







Some research has shown that the beta cells in the panaceas can actually start producing again with fasting.  It also seems to reduces organ fat, and improve function.







Is your wife a type 1 or 2 diabetic?  How long has she been insulin dependent?  







There is little doubt that type 2 diabetes is triggered by the "American diet".  As nations adopt our food habits their incident of obesity, heart disease, and diabetes increases.  

 
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