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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:17:16 AM EDT
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material and labor, I have sewer buddy that could whip that out for $200.00.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:35:47 AM EDT
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It's a $90 pack for $557
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:43:57 AM EDT
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that my Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? Too tactical for my wallet brah. Way too tactical. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:44:57 AM EDT
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Looking at this pack, http://lbtinc.com/bags-backpacks-packs/backpacks/mortar-pack.html
I noted that it had this "Berry Compliant" while not earth shattering information, it was still interesting (sorta) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Amendment I am sure that they are great packs and will do the jobs intended, they just aren't intended to be sold to the public other than via surplus sales. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:46:30 AM EDT
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I picked one up during their New Years Sale. Paid $100 for it, Definatel worth $100 not anymore than that though.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:47:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that my Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? Your Eagle a3 is a really good version of a child's bookbag with straps, I have several. But's a cude pack. the lbt looks like it has a suspension and will carry much more weight Also eagle started making stuff in vietnam or somewhere before the got bought and basically ended civilian sales, not that the foreign made packs are bad
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: material and labor, I have sewer buddy that could whip that out for $200.00. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:50:46 AM EDT
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It's a $90 pack for $557 It is a $200-$300 pack that they set a high MSRP on and sell over-runs/extra inventory off at extremely discounted pricing. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:51:31 AM EDT
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You guys must not have read the part about how it packs itself and then carries itself for you. 550 is a small price to pay for features like that
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Posted: 4/20/2014 7:51:51 AM EDT
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that my Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? I have that exact pack that I'll sell you for $160 shipped 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:20:40 AM EDT
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OP...do you even operate bro?
Ha! Seriously though, that's way overpriced. However, the LBT 3 day pack that I picked up on their valentine's day sale for $49.99 was priced just right! |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:25:50 AM EDT
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You'd be a tard to buy them at those prices. They go on sale and could be had for cheap.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:34:57 AM EDT
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your buddy should start cranking those out, he can sell all he could make, course he would be making almost nothing if his time is worth anything Quote HistoryQuoted:
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material and labor, I have sewer buddy that could whip that out for $200.00. yup |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:40:38 AM EDT
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I have the exact bag and it cost half your Maxpedition bag... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That bag looks very much like my Maxpedition bag...except the Maxpedition cost about half that. I have the exact bag and it cost half your Maxpedition bag... This. You got ripped off pcs. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:42:14 AM EDT
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that is a Gen 3 bag
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:42:15 AM EDT
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LA Police Gear sells a copy for just over $50. Thanks to GD, I picked up the LBT Ruck for $100.
Any pack will suffice for a lowly suburbanite like myself, but the LBT's stitching seems much more durable. LBT on the left. LAPG on the right. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:48:01 AM EDT
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Company is located in Virginia Beach, let's see what's nearby there.................I know there is something , give me a moment I'm sure it will come to me.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:52:18 AM EDT
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I am a confirmed gear whore...and I could see myself paying 600 bucks for a state-of-the-art, Cuben fiber, carbon fiber, internal framed, miracle of modern engineering. 9.9 times out of 10, you get what you pay for. But I don't see where that pack is any better than a Maxpedition or similar. that's because you haven't had to hump an 80lb load with a pack with a shitty suspension and padding setup made by the lowest bidder. I've never regretted what I spent on my Kifaru EMR. Not once. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:55:11 AM EDT
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I've never really understood the tactical backpack thing. I'm grabbing my tried and true backpacking pack if I need to go somewhere for a few days without resupply.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:57:02 AM EDT
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My Eberlestock pack was less than that and it holds a rifle and two camelbacks and a ton of other gear. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:15:32 AM EDT
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that's because you haven't had to hump an 80lb load with a pack with a shitty suspension and padding setup made by the lowest bidder. I've never regretted what I spent on my Kifaru EMR. Not once. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am a confirmed gear whore...and I could see myself paying 600 bucks for a state-of-the-art, Cuben fiber, carbon fiber, internal framed, miracle of modern engineering. 9.9 times out of 10, you get what you pay for. But I don't see where that pack is any better than a Maxpedition or similar. that's because you haven't had to hump an 80lb load with a pack with a shitty suspension and padding setup made by the lowest bidder. I've never regretted what I spent on my Kifaru EMR. Not once. If an alice pack counts, sure I have. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:19:17 AM EDT
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A backpack for $550.00? It had better be 365 + 1.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:26:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My Eberlestock pack was less than that and it holds a rifle and two camelbacks and a ton of other gear. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:28:19 AM EDT
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Those go on sale occasionally for less than $90. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:28:34 AM EDT
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Great stuff. Nobody pays retail except with tax dollars.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:30:32 AM EDT
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I paid $90 for mine
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:30:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never really understood the tactical backpack thing. I'm grabbing my tried and true backpacking pack if I need to go somewhere for a few days without resupply. just like I don't need an f350, but I kinda want one
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Posted: 4/20/2014 10:36:13 AM EDT
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Fuck that noise. My RAID II has been going strong for almost 4+ years now. 170 bucks.
Couple mesh pouches from kifaru on the inside and 1 or 2 7-channel pouches from esstac on the front and its perfect. Been beat around the back of 7tons, airplanes, had a gallon jug of CLP spilled on it, dropped thrown and kicked all over the place. Some simple green(for the oil smell) a little bit of detergent and an industrial washing machine, and it looks new. I need to replace a few of the buckles because they've been stepped on or broken but it's held up exceptionally well. 
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:09:41 AM EDT
[#29]
Uhh north face is way cheaper
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:14:37 AM EDT
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Uhh north face is way cheaper and made in vietnam, el salvador, the dominican republic, or china. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:23:30 AM EDT
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if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:41:40 AM EDT
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All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that me Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. 200 gets you a 3 day pack. this is a 4 day extended pack, bro. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:45:05 AM EDT
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I know shit about packs, but what I can tell you is - THEY ARE ALL OVERPRICED
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:52:14 AM EDT
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I bet a Navy SEAL touched it! If one did I can see how it would command such a high price!
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Posted: 4/20/2014 11:54:40 AM EDT
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If its not Kifaru or Mystery Ranch its not worth it. LBT makes good stuff but they charge insane prices cause they are associated with the Teams.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 12:57:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If its not Kifaru or Mystery Ranch its not worth it. LBT makes good stuff but they charge insane prices cause they are associated with the Teams. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck that noise. My RAID II has been going strong for almost 4+ years now. 170 bucks. Couple mesh pouches from kifaru on the inside and 1 or 2 7-channel pouches from esstac on the front and its perfect. Been beat around the back of 7tons, airplanes, had a gallon jug of CLP spilled on it, dropped thrown and kicked all over the place. Some simple green(for the oil smell) a little bit of detergent and an industrial washing machine, and it looks new. I need to replace a few of the buckles because they've been stepped on or broken but it's held up exceptionally well. http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/raidII.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/RAID/006.JPG |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:28:53 PM EDT
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I've never really understood the tactical backpack thing. I'm grabbing my tried and true backpacking pack if I need to go somewhere for a few days without resupply. People want to feel like soldiers, and while a well made top loading non-tactical pack might last longer, carry better, and be superior in almost all aspects... It's not tacticool and doesn't have camo fabrics available. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:30:17 PM EDT
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People want to feel like soldiers, and while a well made top loading non-tactical pack might last longer, carry better, and be superior in almost all aspects... It's not tacticool and doesn't have camo fabrics available. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never really understood the tactical backpack thing. I'm grabbing my tried and true backpacking pack if I need to go somewhere for a few days without resupply. People want to feel like soldiers, and while a well made top loading non-tactical pack might last longer, carry better, and be superior in almost all aspects... It's not tacticool and doesn't have camo fabrics available. I think it's more along the lines of not passing up an incredible deal. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:35:57 PM EDT
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Fuck that noise. My RAID II has been going strong for almost 4+ years now. 170 bucks. Couple mesh pouches from kifaru on the inside and 1 or 2 7-channel pouches from esstac on the front and its perfect. Been beat around the back of 7tons, airplanes, had a gallon jug of CLP spilled on it, dropped thrown and kicked all over the place. Some simple green(for the oil smell) a little bit of detergent and an industrial washing machine, and it looks new. I need to replace a few of the buckles because they've been stepped on or broken but it's held up exceptionally well. http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/raidII.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/RAID/006.JPG Raids and Raid IIs are good packs and highly customizable. I have four of them(different colors) and three have done tax free vacations with me. The original Raid isn't very good with weight when worn over armor, but using a sternum strap helps hold it in place. Two of my four(one Raid and one Raid II) need to go back for some sewing. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:37:10 PM EDT
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Company is located in Virginia Beach, let's see what's nearby there.................I know there is something , give me a moment I'm sure it will come to me. Exactly. Lots of SEALs bought lots of their gear before the internet was cool. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:39:44 PM EDT
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that my Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? Fool, it ain't a THREE day pack!!! Backpack, Four Day Extended Mission, With Hydration Bladder You get a WHOLE EXTRA DAY!!! LGBT is the shit but only if it's free. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:42:51 PM EDT
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eek simple green strips off the waterproofing coatings (I guess water resistant technically) I think Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck that noise. My RAID II has been going strong for almost 4+ years now. 170 bucks. Couple mesh pouches from kifaru on the inside and 1 or 2 7-channel pouches from esstac on the front and its perfect. Been beat around the back of 7tons, airplanes, had a gallon jug of CLP spilled on it, dropped thrown and kicked all over the place. Some simple green(for the oil smell) a little bit of detergent and an industrial washing machine, and it looks new. I need to replace a few of the buckles because they've been stepped on or broken but it's held up exceptionally well. http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/raidII.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~colonelklink/gear/RAID/006.JPG AFAIK the RAID isn't water proof and if it had a coating on it's been gone for a long time. On a nylon pack its just gonna be a treatment anyways, which you can always redo with something like nikwax or scotchgard or whatever. It's better than it reeking of CLP, which while I'm fond of the smell it's a bit overpowering after a while. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 1:52:41 PM EDT
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All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that me Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. Because when they put it "On Sale" for $100, ppl fall over themselves to buy them. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:21:36 PM EDT
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Because when they put it "On Sale" for $100, ppl fall over themselves to buy them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that me Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. Because when they put it "On Sale" for $100, ppl fall over themselves to buy them. Any place to monitor for sales? |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:23:46 PM EDT
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Any place to monitor for sales? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Come on now... Somebody defend this to me with a straight face. What does this do that me Eagle A-lll doesn't? Does it blow you? All that overpriced shit is a joke. Tell me why that isn't a $200 pack. Because when they put it "On Sale" for $100, ppl fall over themselves to buy them. Any place to monitor for sales? Yep, there website. Happens on Holidays a lot. And why shouldn't people fall over themselves? It's a great bag/great price. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:30:44 PM EDT
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I have a pack and a gear bag . Both very well made and have done great in my limited use
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:34:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People want to feel like soldiers, and while a well made top loading non-tactical pack might last longer, carry better, and be superior in almost all aspects... It's not tacticool and doesn't have camo fabrics available. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never really understood the tactical backpack thing. I'm grabbing my tried and true backpacking pack if I need to go somewhere for a few days without resupply. People want to feel like soldiers, and while a well made top loading non-tactical pack might last longer, carry better, and be superior in almost all aspects... It's not tacticool and doesn't have camo fabrics available. And at least one of the well respected ultra light pack companies makes camo packs I agree if you are going to walk along groomed trails, with a light load of ultra light gear most people are better off with a civy pack
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:38:59 PM EDT
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Those go on sale occasionally for less than $90. That's why I have one.
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Posted: 4/20/2014 2:43:37 PM EDT
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and made in vietnam, el salvador, the dominican republic, or china. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uhh north face is way cheaper and made in vietnam, el salvador, the dominican republic, or china. Yeah but all my north face gear has held up pretty well. I'm a low speed high drag type so that might not mean anything though. |
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