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Posted: 4/15/2014 4:03:21 PM EDT
Anyone have any ideas how long the plastic compositions of the newer "plastic" handguns will last for? As I ponder what firearms might be passed down to the great, great, grand kids I can't help but wonder if Glock pistols and mags will survive the ravages of time and if the plastic won't eventually degrade.
I've handled revolvers over a 150 years old and I just don't see a Glock making it that long. Thoughts? |
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VP 70's are still alive and kicking it, those have been around for over 40. Polymer has come a log way. I predict some people in this thread will say that your glock will break in half within 20 years though.
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It really is pretty remarkable how tough polymer is. I never thought about whether it would degrade over time or not.
Good question OP. |
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I think I remember reading that it should last a really long time. Like long enough that your great-grandkid shouldn't worry about it. Could be wrong.
Curious if someone knows an answer, as all but one of my pistols are polymer
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never as long as it avoids sunlight
http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/how-long-does-it-take-for-plastics-to-biodegrade.htm |
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My 23 I got in 1990 is still going strong after around 40k rounds with nary a hiccup.
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. Did the holes come from a dremel? No they came from a 13er |
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. View Quote That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out. |
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. Did the holes come from a dremel? No they came from a 13er |
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Nobody can answer that question, because they haven't been around long enough. You can test them with elevated ozone levels or exposure to UV rays and solvents, but nothing replaces the test of time.
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out. You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post? |
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out. You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post? I bet your a blast to party with. |
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Quoted: never as long as it avoids sunlight http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/how-long-does-it-take-for-plastics-to-biodegrade.htm View Quote I think extreme heat over a long time would probably not be too good for it either. ( like kept up in a hot attic for 20 or 30 years type of thing ) |
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It wouldn't surprise me if the polymer got brittle and fell to pieces after a hundred years or so. Rick's great grandson probably won't give you five bucks for one.
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years. That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out. You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post? Oh well. I'm tired...been a long day. |
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I think most plastic photodegrades. So if you keep it out of sunlight, I would say 87 years.
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I bought my Gen. 2 G22 in the summer of '91 and it's fine, so 23 years at least.
Chris |
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Isn't it just glass reinforced nylon with carbon black to protect it from UV?
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depends on UV exposure (sunlight)
Less than 3 years if a lot of exposure |
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Isn't it just glass reinforced nylon with carbon black to protect it from UV? View Quote I believe you are thinking of HK. ETA maybe I read your post wrong. I think HK is polymer reinforced with carbon fiber or something. IIRC Glock is just standard polymer, but it is tough as nails. |
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Life depends on how much UV it is exposed to, and how much O3 it is exposed to.
30% Glass reinforced Nylon 6/6 (Zytel) is hard to beat as a rugged, moldable, thermoplastic goes. Glass adds strength and dimensional stability. |
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Plastic polymer from about 500 years ago is still in good shape.
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You are complaining about a GLOCK frame not lasting. Well I guess you have to get rid of all the plastic, wood, and metal components from your weapons as they will all break and wear out.
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There is a mass the size of texas of old glocks floating in the ocean.
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Should last at least until phased plasma rifles and handguns in the 40 watt range are available to civilians.
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You are complaining about a GLOCK frame not lasting. Well I guess you have to get rid of all the plastic, wood, and metal components from your weapons as they will all break and wear out. View Quote Dude did you inadvertently post in the wrong thread? Who's complaining? I was asking. |
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In Obama's third term the EPA will order all firearms to be made from biodegradable recycled cardboard.
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Spray ultrathon on and find out......just under five minutes.
Hint, don't use that shit on the range late at night......web gear, glock, other plastic shit......gone! |
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I would say long enough for puny projectile weapons to become obsolete.
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Before or after some idiot butchers it with a woodburner hot pencil?
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It really is pretty remarkable how tough polymer is. I never thought about whether it would degrade over time or not. Good question OP. View Quote Would be really interesting if some minor quality control issues showed up over time, but it seems unlikely. Obviously a different type and radically lower grade of manufacturing, but to turn the nerd momentarily up to 11, I am reminded of "gold plastic syndrome", wherein certain plastics used in toys would get brittle over time. |
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I don't really care. I mean in 100 years hypothetically people will buy them like they do mosins now. It isn't going to be the go to weapon.
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