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Posted: 4/15/2014 4:03:21 PM EDT
Anyone have any ideas how long the plastic compositions of the newer "plastic" handguns will last for?  As I ponder what firearms might be passed down to the great, great, grand kids I can't help but wonder if Glock pistols and mags will survive the ravages of time and if the plastic won't eventually degrade.

I've handled revolvers over a 150 years old and I just don't see a Glock making it that long. Thoughts?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:04:18 PM EDT
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87 Years
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:05:49 PM EDT
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VP 70's are still alive and kicking it, those have been around for over 40.  Polymer has come a log way.  I predict some people in this thread will say that your glock will break in half within 20 years though.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:07:50 PM EDT
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About 50,000 years. No seriously, about that long.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:08:20 PM EDT
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It really is pretty remarkable how tough polymer is. I never thought about whether it would degrade over time or not.
Good question OP.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:08:51 PM EDT
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I think I remember reading that it should last a really long time. Like long enough that your great-grandkid shouldn't worry about it. Could be wrong.



Curious if someone knows an answer, as all but one of my pistols are polymer
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:09:17 PM EDT
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Until just after the first explosion...

Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:10:30 PM EDT
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Far, far longer than steel, rest assured.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:10:59 PM EDT
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My 23 I got in 1990 is still going strong after around 40k rounds with nary a hiccup.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:11:23 PM EDT
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:12:25 PM EDT
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Did the holes come from a dremel?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:14:24 PM EDT
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My sarcastic meter must be broken.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:14:41 PM EDT
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Did the holes come from a dremel?
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.


Did the holes come from a dremel?




No they came from a 13er
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:15:24 PM EDT
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That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:16:42 PM EDT
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.


Did the holes come from a dremel?




No they came from a 13er


Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:17:23 PM EDT
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Nobody can answer that question, because they haven't been around long enough. You can test them with elevated ozone levels or exposure to UV rays and solvents, but nothing replaces the test of time.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:18:14 PM EDT
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You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post?
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.


That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out.



You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post?


I bet your a blast to party with.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:19:58 PM EDT
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I think extreme heat over a long time would probably not be too good for it either.   ( like kept up in a hot attic for 20 or 30 years type of thing )



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:26:23 PM EDT
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It wouldn't surprise me if the polymer got brittle and fell to pieces after a hundred years or so.   Rick's great grandson probably won't give you five bucks for one.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:31:46 PM EDT
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Mine purchased in the 80's already have holes in them. I don't see them lasting another 5 years. The slides are fine so I'm trying to mod them to fit on 1911 frames...those are proven to last at least 100 years.


That's what I'm thinking. I may get one of these and play with it to see how it works out.



You realize you are responding to an obvious troll post?


Oh well. I'm tired...been a long day.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:32:24 PM EDT
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We need some pics
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:33:44 PM EDT
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I think most plastic photodegrades. So if you keep it out of sunlight, I would say 87 years.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:33:45 PM EDT
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I bought my Gen. 2 G22 in the summer of '91 and it's fine, so 23 years at least.

Chris
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:38:05 PM EDT
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Isn't it just glass reinforced nylon with carbon black to protect it from UV?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:39:19 PM EDT
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depends on UV exposure (sunlight)

Less than 3 years if a lot of exposure
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:39:32 PM EDT
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I believe you are thinking of HK.

ETA maybe I read your post wrong.  I think HK is polymer reinforced with carbon fiber or something.  IIRC Glock is just standard polymer, but it is tough as nails.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:40:46 PM EDT
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Polyamide.  Nylon is a trademarked polyamide composed of a 6 carbon dicarboxylic acid and a 6 carbon diaamine.



 
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:44:29 PM EDT
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Life depends on how much UV it is exposed to, and how much O3 it is exposed to.

30% Glass reinforced Nylon 6/6 (Zytel) is hard to beat as a rugged, moldable, thermoplastic goes.

Glass adds strength and dimensional stability.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:45:43 PM EDT
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Plastic polymer from about 500 years ago is still in good shape.
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1510's thermoplastic....only the CIA knew.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:51:06 PM EDT
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You are complaining about a GLOCK frame not lasting.  Well I guess you have to get rid of all the plastic, wood, and metal components from your weapons as they will all break and wear out.  
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:51:58 PM EDT
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There is a mass the size of texas of old glocks floating in the ocean.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:54:00 PM EDT
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Should last at least until phased plasma rifles and handguns in the 40 watt range are available to civilians.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:56:27 PM EDT
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The enviroweenies tell me it will never biodegrade
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:57:48 PM EDT
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Dude did you inadvertently post in the wrong thread? Who's complaining? I was asking.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:59:09 PM EDT
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A valid question.

I see lots of plastic from the 1970's and 1980's degrading


My Grandfather Carried this in World War One.

My Father carried it in the 1960's and 70's

I grew up shooting it.

I doubt a Glock's tupperware will last this long



Link Posted: 4/15/2014 4:59:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:00:06 PM EDT
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In Obama's third term the EPA will order all firearms to be made from biodegradable recycled cardboard.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:04:05 PM EDT
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I soak mine in Armorall. It keeps it fresh like a vampire.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:04:45 PM EDT
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BEAT
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:09:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:10:10 PM EDT
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Never. Magic polymer manufactured by German ubermensch.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:10:10 PM EDT
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My G19 made in 1992 is solid.








Knock on wood...
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:11:08 PM EDT
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Spray ultrathon on and find out......just under five minutes.


Hint, don't use that shit on the range late at night......web gear, glock, other plastic shit......gone!
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:13:48 PM EDT
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I would say long enough for puny projectile weapons to become obsolete.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:14:23 PM EDT
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Before or after some idiot butchers it with a woodburner hot pencil?
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:19:45 PM EDT
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It really is pretty remarkable how tough polymer is. I never thought about whether it would degrade over time or not.
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Would be really interesting if some minor quality control issues showed up over time, but it seems unlikely.


Obviously a different type and radically lower grade of manufacturing, but to turn the nerd momentarily up to 11, I am reminded of "gold plastic syndrome", wherein certain plastics used in toys would get brittle over time.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:20:19 PM EDT
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I don't really care.  I mean in 100 years hypothetically people will buy them like they do mosins now.  It isn't going to be the go to weapon.
Link Posted: 4/15/2014 5:22:01 PM EDT
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In to see photos of glocks being degraded
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