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Posted: 3/11/2014 2:49:10 AM EDT
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A sneaky way for manufacturers to trick you into having a bunch of tiny dicks on your free floats I LOLed |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 3:41:40 AM EDT
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Okay, ya made me laugh.
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years.  |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 3:53:53 AM EDT
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Quote Historyoh . . . my . . . . . |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 3:57:52 AM EDT
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I would like to thank weaponoutfitters for his wonderful thread derailments. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 4:07:06 AM EDT
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In this thread I plead Geissele to Continue manufacturing the MK4 rail. Keymod sucks!  You're damn right. Geissele had the perfect rail. Then they fucked it with fence posts. Keymod is horse shit. Please bring back the MK4. Every rifle I own has a Geissele rail. I would like to keep it that way. I just can't stand the keymod. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 4:24:07 AM EDT
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It's like the Bauowulf X system, it's pointless.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 4:37:17 AM EDT
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It's like the Bauowulf X system, it's pointless. well, if you're talking about the points from the rails - sure? like I said - I got mine cheap, that's the only reason why I swapped to it |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 4:40:12 AM EDT
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Plus keymod looks fugly. Nor do I think its too comfortable, plus the size of the "keymod" cuts forces designs to have more metal = heavier. and you have to buy more rail sections or mounts to actually add anything vs just clip/slide it on the rail. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 4:58:58 AM EDT
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Its a universal attachment system for your universal attachment system. So you can attach while you attach. Dog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why is keymod a thing? What does it do over ff handguards with rail sections? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Its a universal attachment system for your universal attachment system. So you can attach while you attach. Dog. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:04:58 AM EDT
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until there are direct attach systems (e.g. sights and grips and lights with keymod mounts), I don't quite get what it has over a "screw-based" system like wilson combats, other than being cheaper to make for the manufacturer (since no female screw threads needed).
I think they should be FAR cheaper than they are to make sense for the consumer. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:06:10 AM EDT
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Lighter, smaller in diameter, more awesome. End of story.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:08:47 AM EDT
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:11:15 AM EDT
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The original designs were released to the public by Vltor. My guess is the hope was it would spur new mounts and handgurads. It sort has done that with rails, but the mounts for flashlights and other items has lagged behind. My guess is the original design intent was to create a "cleaner" handguard/mounting system, but it has to compete with the literal standard 1913 rail. The rail sections were ment to be just as "optional" as any other mount, it's a damn cool design though.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:18:52 AM EDT
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I'm saving my money for a Lego system rail....
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:22:50 AM EDT
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So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? http://i57.tinypic.com/23kqmp4.jpg LOL my first thought as well... |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:28:20 AM EDT
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It's part of the Obamacare initiative.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:35:43 AM EDT
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That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Yup. I'm a big fan of the URX 3-3.1's and the Mk4's. Just "scored" another non-keymod Mk4. It's sad I get excited about something like that...... |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:44:49 AM EDT
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AR-MrPotatoHead
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:45:55 AM EDT
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A sneaky way for manufacturers to trick you into having a bunch of tiny dicks on your free floats Did spikes invent this? |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:49:29 AM EDT
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Okay, ya made me laugh.
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Nothing new. It's been available at Home Depot for years. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/546/mb6q.jpg Upside down. The smaller end needs to point down so the shelves will lock in. That one looks like it's being used as a corner protector so it doesn't matter. I like the smoother lower profile of the new kool aid keymod. But havering to buy specialty mounts to lower the profile of the accessories on the gun, or buying rail panels is a no go for me. I just bought my first quad rail... I can't keep up with the newest flavor. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:50:47 AM EDT
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I like em.. makes my rifles with quad rails/covers feel like tanks
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:51:46 AM EDT
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For people with hands too soft, and arms to weak for a railed handguard.
They are also very fashionable. You can get them in every color to match your costa-Ludis man purse. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 5:53:14 AM EDT
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Did spikes invent this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A sneaky way for manufacturers to trick you into having a bunch of tiny dicks on your free floats Did spikes invent this? Spikes likes bigger dicks... Payout to touch |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:16:35 AM EDT
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So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. This. I wanna fuckin' punt goddamn puppies out into the fuckin' interstate when I see stupid fucking faggotry like rail covers on rails that are bolted or keymodded to a slick tube for the sole purpose of having a special place to put your hand. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:17:40 AM EDT
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I'm just stocking up on rails I like before they get infected with keymod.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:20:00 AM EDT
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You're damn right. Geissele had the perfect rail. Then they fucked it with fence posts. Keymod is horse shit. Please bring back the MK4. Every rifle I own has a Geissele rail. I would like to keep it that way. I just can't stand the keymod. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In this thread I plead Geissele to Continue manufacturing the MK4 rail. Keymod sucks! You're damn right. Geissele had the perfect rail. Then they fucked it with fence posts. Keymod is horse shit. Please bring back the MK4. Every rifle I own has a Geissele rail. I would like to keep it that way. I just can't stand the keymod. Someone forward this to Geissele. Keymod fucking sucks. Bring back the MK4. It was perfect before it had those stupid dick perforations on it. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:20:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I wanna fuckin' punt goddamn puppies out into the fuckin' interstate when I see stupid fucking faggotry like rail covers on rails that are bolted or keymodded to a slick tube for the sole purpose of having a special place to put your hand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. This. I wanna fuckin' punt goddamn puppies out into the fuckin' interstate when I see stupid fucking faggotry like rail covers on rails that are bolted or keymodded to a slick tube for the sole purpose of having a special place to put your hand. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:23:19 AM EDT
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I'm waiting on a Picatinny key mod adapter so I ca attach keymod rail covers on my Larue handguards...
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:30:16 AM EDT
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Technically the MK4 doesnt have keymod... MK5 = MK4 with keymod. First ones were made before the new naming system was adopted. Since you are friends with Bill you need to get him to rethink discontinuing the MK4's Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the idea, rails can be sharp. It would be nice just to have rail where you need it and have the rest of the hand guard thin and smooth. That's why the old MK4s and URX3s were nice. Keymod just makes those heavier and have attachment points where you will never attach anything. Technically the MK4 doesnt have keymod... MK5 = MK4 with keymod. First ones were made before the new naming system was adopted. Since you are friends with Bill you need to get him to rethink discontinuing the MK4's When I ordered this rail it was called a Mk4 keymod 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:30:47 AM EDT
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In hint if this thread I just bought a geissele pre-infected mk4
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:33:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In hint if this thread I just bought a geissele pre-infected mk4 Btw. Official Cola Warrior config is 16inch barrel with MK4 13in and TA33. I think like 4-5 people are using this config this year haha.  |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:33:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:I think we covered this already. The hand guards/covers mount directly to the keymod rail. You do not add rail sections just to use the covers. Ten years ago when the girls first started crying that 1913 rails were too manly and hurt their hands, and rail covers were just way too big, and none of the cool guys mount anything at anywhere but 12:00... Everyone went to junky ass Troy tubes and the even junkier MOE handguards with plastic shit screwed everywhere... For the sole purpose of being smooth. Now we have smooth rails and the girls just have to accessorize, so they came up with *Keymod!* A way to attach shit to the thing they invented for the sole purpose of not having shit attached.. Keymod can FOAD. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:37:18 AM EDT
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Btw. Official Cola Warrior config is 16inch barrel with MK4 13in and TA33. I think like 4-5 people are using this config this year haha. http://i60.tinypic.com/2mwcm00.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In hint if this thread I just bought a geissele pre-infected mk4
Btw. Official Cola Warrior config is 16inch barrel with MK4 13in and TA33. I think like 4-5 people are using this config this year haha. http://i60.tinypic.com/2mwcm00.jpg
Mine will be 5.45 too |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:39:33 AM EDT
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You people take this shit WAYYYYYYY too seriously.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:42:33 AM EDT
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It is like Barbie for the AR-15 eh I'm thinking micronauts, but with less magnets.. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:43:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just stocking up on rails I like before they get infected with keymod. http://algdefense.com/12-ergonomic-modular-rail-gray.html |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:43:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: eh I'm thinking micronauts, but with less magnets.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is like Barbie for the AR-15 eh I'm thinking micronauts, but with less magnets.. I want a magnet attachable keymod, so can attach keymod to my barrel, then attach picatinny to that. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:44:41 AM EDT
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Costa and Haley started "running" them whatever the fuck that means. And just about 87% of ARFCOM are on their dicks so they must "run " them too. Run them right in the safe while they operate in moms basement.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:47:03 AM EDT
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I'm just stocking up on rails I like before they get infected with keymod. http://algdefense.com/12-ergonomic-modular-rail-gray.html I need to find another urxiii and then I'm good. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:52:00 AM EDT
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So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile From a handguard perspective you cut weight by not having the railed sections all over the place, case in point is a LARUE 11 SBRS rail weighing 14.6oz compared to a FORTIS REV 12 weighing just 9oz. Also you can remove the rail all together. You can reduce weight by mounting your flashlight, your bipod, or your other widget directly to a KEYMOD section instead of having to have the rail section and a mount. NOVESKE is making some direct attachment solutions |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:57:13 AM EDT
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How many things are you attaching in such non standard places that you want this shit alllllll down the rail?
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Posted: 3/11/2014 6:57:28 AM EDT
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I think we covered this already. The hand guards/covers mount directly to the keymod rail. You do not add rail sections just to use the covers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rails are optional.....http://<a href=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/bstonemega/IMAG1752_zpsa0ce843d.jpg</a>" /> So - you use picatinny key mod rails so you can put picatinny rail covers on your picatinny key mod rails so your hands don't get cut on the optional picatinny key mod rails? I'm not seeing the point of having optional picatinny key mod rails here. This. I wanna fuckin' punt goddamn puppies out into the fuckin' interstate when I see stupid fucking faggotry like rail covers on rails that are bolted or keymodded to a slick tube for the sole purpose of having a special place to put your hand. ain't nobody got time for reading |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:02:08 AM EDT
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Uhhhh... I pre ordered a polylithic keymod upper receiver a few days ago... Just to be cool.
I hope it works. 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:06:15 AM EDT
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Uhhhh... I pre ordered a polylithic keymod upper receiver a few days ago... Just to be cool. I hope it works. Mega? |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:12:07 AM EDT
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I like my Mega MKM. I really don't attach much to my rails but it allows the option of 7 attachment positions minus the top rail instead of 3 on most rails. It is also comfortable to grip without adding rail covers.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:12:24 AM EDT
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You people take this shit WAYYYYYYY too seriously. Don't get me wrong, if there's a mARket sea shift to keymod, well, we'll just head on down to Home Depot for some of them ready-made strips and mount us a lever mount to the bottom of 'em.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:14:26 AM EDT
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Tubular handguards that are similar to the Daniel Defense MFR or TRXs don't have an easy means to put heat protection (XTMs or the like) directly.
Keymod makes it simple to add panels, without adding much weight. I can outfit my NSRs with enough panels to protect my hands from the heat for less weight than 1 pic-rail being added to a Daniel Defense MFR. BCM is doing a direct-attach VFG for their KM rails, and also the ease of a QD swivel mount from Noveske. Show me a lighter rail system that you don't have to add a top-rail to for your BUIS, light, etc. than the BCM. Oh and shameless pic: 
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:38:48 AM EDT
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The fake tits of AR rails.....Bolt Ons.
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:46:38 AM EDT
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From a handguard perspective you cut weight by not having the railed sections all over the place, case in point is a LARUE 11 SBRS rail weighing 14.6oz compared to a FORTIS REV 12 weighing just 9oz. Also you can remove the rail all together. You can reduce weight by mounting your flashlight, your bipod, or your other widget directly to a KEYMOD section instead of having to have the rail section and a mount. NOVESKE is making some direct attachment solutions Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Pretty sure it's just a standard way to attach rails and shit to the handguard.. so you don't have to get rails and all that are specific to your handguard. So you buy a keyed system to buy railed keyed sections to add 1913 std things you own to it? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile From a handguard perspective you cut weight by not having the railed sections all over the place, case in point is a LARUE 11 SBRS rail weighing 14.6oz compared to a FORTIS REV 12 weighing just 9oz. Also you can remove the rail all together. You can reduce weight by mounting your flashlight, your bipod, or your other widget directly to a KEYMOD section instead of having to have the rail section and a mount. NOVESKE is making some direct attachment solutions When I did a Noveske build for the lady, I used a Noveske rail, Keymod. She loves how thin and light the rail is, ever since she tried one out. I actually considered getting one for a build that I don't plan on adding a whole bunch of stuff to. |
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Posted: 3/11/2014 7:52:01 AM EDT
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Uhhhh... I pre ordered a polylithic keymod upper receiver a few days ago... Just to be cool. I hope it works. Mega? No I pre-ordered a Vltor KM polylithic receiver... In hopes that more people will like me at the gun range. |
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