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Hopes of finding missing MH370 ‘are fading fast’
Australian air crash investigators’ hopes that the missing Malaysian Airlines jet will be found are fading fast as time and space run out for locating the aircraft.
As the hunt for MH370 enters the final 13,000sq km of its designated 120,000sq km search area in the south Indian Ocean, the head of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, Martin Dolan, said there was a “diminishing level of confidence we will find the aircraft”. “We still think there is a good chance we will find the aircraft but that probability is falling so we have to start contemplating that we may not succeed,” he said. “Everyone … is still focused on the fact that the remaining 13,000sq km is still a lot of territory and it’s still entirely possible the aircraft is there. But we are also starting to think about the implications of not finding it.” View Quote The ATSB is working on a report for the government should the search prove fruitless that will consider alternative possibilities for what happened to the plane, including the “rogue pilot” theory that posits the captain of MH370 hijacked his own aircraft and purposely crashed it into the sea.
“If we eliminate the entire 120,000sq km zone, we have eliminated the hypothesis … that there was no control inputs at the end of flight.” Mr Dolan said. “At this point an alternative hypothesis would need to be considered. Since we eliminate the hypothesis of no control inputs, then we look at the ways in which there was control, which would include a controlled ditching or a glide.” View Quote http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/aviation/hopes-of-finding-missing-mh370-are-fading-fast/news-story/38d74147bea21789c4df56956df18f3b?nk=0db43d19aa7db7c72b1a8ce43dd50d53-1463397886 |
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We are determined to not actually find the MH370.
Flight MH370 Update: Malaysia Won’t Shift Search Area After Discovery Of 5 Debris Pieces In Western Indian Ocean Malaysia will not shift the underwater search area for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 after five pieces of debris were found in the western Indian Ocean, Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said Friday. The comments come just a day after Australian authorities confirmed that the two new debris pieces found on the beaches of South Africa and Mauritius were "almost certainly" from the missing Boeing 777-200. View Quote "We won't shift the search area. From the debris found, it actually confirms that our search area is the right area looking at the drift pattern," Liow said, adding that the area is the "most probable" crash site. View Quote Yet after 2 years of searching and $100 million you found nothing. http://www.ibtimes.com/flight-mh370-update-malaysia-wont-shift-search-area-after-discovery-5-debris-pieces-2368488 |
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We are determined to not actually find the MH370. Flight MH370 Update: Malaysia Won’t Shift Search Area After Discovery Of 5 Debris Pieces In Western Indian Ocean Yet after 2 years of searching and $100 million you found nothing. http://www.ibtimes.com/flight-mh370-update-malaysia-wont-shift-search-area-after-discovery-5-debris-pieces-2368488 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
We are determined to not actually find the MH370. Flight MH370 Update: Malaysia Won’t Shift Search Area After Discovery Of 5 Debris Pieces In Western Indian Ocean Malaysia will not shift the underwater search area for Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 after five pieces of debris were found in the western Indian Ocean, Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said Friday. The comments come just a day after Australian authorities confirmed that the two new debris pieces found on the beaches of South Africa and Mauritius were "almost certainly" from the missing Boeing 777-200. "We won't shift the search area. From the debris found, it actually confirms that our search area is the right area looking at the drift pattern," Liow said, adding that the area is the "most probable" crash site. Yet after 2 years of searching and $100 million you found nothing. http://www.ibtimes.com/flight-mh370-update-malaysia-wont-shift-search-area-after-discovery-5-debris-pieces-2368488 And if they finally do find it, after spending millions of dollars, I wonder how they'll justify the cost after quickly realizing that the captain pulled the pulled the FDR and CVR breakers. Without that data, finding the wreckage accomplishes next to nothing. |
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So it hit hard, not free fall, confetti hard, but not a controlled, out of fuel, drop he flaps and ditch hard either. Somewhere in between. How about an out of fuel at altitude on auto- pilot?
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Odds of finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and the 239 aboard dwindle as search draws to a close
The odds of locating Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and the remains of the 239 people on board are dwindling, experts have said, as the search for the missing aircraft draws to a close. View Quote It’s impossible to say why the search team has been unable to locate the site of the wreckage. All the evidence gathered to date points to the designated search zone, a band of the Indian Ocean identified as the 7th arc. View Quote Why? Because their 'science' is wrong otherwise they would have found debris and their refusal to consider alternate crash locations is pure idiocy at this point. A huge swath of the 120,000 sq.-km of the designated search zone, a territory roughly equivalent to that of North Korea, has already been combed. Once the search team completes the remaining 15,000 sq. km, sometime in July or August, the search will officially come to an end. View Quote Martin Dolan, the head of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), said there are still “good prospects” of finding the plane, but acknowledged that the possibility of doing so is decreasing.
“The best advice we had from all experts is that it was highly probable but not certain the aircraft would be found (within the search zone),” he told the Guardian. “We have to contemplate now the possibility that we will not find the aircraft.” View Quote http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/odds-of-finding-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-and-the-239-aboard-dwindle-as-search-draws-to-a-close |
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Quoted: Odds of finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and the 239 aboard dwindle as search draws to a close Why? Because their 'science' is wrong otherwise they would have found debris and their refusal to consider alternate crash locations is pure idiocy at this point. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/odds-of-finding-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-and-the-239-aboard-dwindle-as-search-draws-to-a-close View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Odds of finding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and the 239 aboard dwindle as search draws to a close The odds of locating Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and the remains of the 239 people on board are dwindling, experts have said, as the search for the missing aircraft draws to a close. It’s impossible to say why the search team has been unable to locate the site of the wreckage. All the evidence gathered to date points to the designated search zone, a band of the Indian Ocean identified as the 7th arc. Why? Because their 'science' is wrong otherwise they would have found debris and their refusal to consider alternate crash locations is pure idiocy at this point. A huge swath of the 120,000 sq.-km of the designated search zone, a territory roughly equivalent to that of North Korea, has already been combed. Once the search team completes the remaining 15,000 sq. km, sometime in July or August, the search will officially come to an end. Martin Dolan, the head of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), said there are still "good prospects” of finding the plane, but acknowledged that the possibility of doing so is decreasing. "The best advice we had from all experts is that it was highly probable but not certain the aircraft would be found (within the search zone),” he told the Guardian. "We have to contemplate now the possibility that we will not find the aircraft.” http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/odds-of-finding-malaysia-airlines-flight-370-and-the-239-aboard-dwindle-as-search-draws-to-a-close Interesting times. |
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Why does Balista hate the Aussies? I thought everyone loved the Aussies. Their women are hot as hell, like American men, and descended from prisoners so they are used to being tied up.
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They are searching where the street lamp is located because the light is better. They need to be searching where the plane is by Christmas Island.
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Quoted: This man has found several pieces of MH370 and it did not cost $130 million dollars. MH370: Blaine Gibson's one-man search for answers http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1696C/production/_89942529_89942438.jpg http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/494B/production/_89936781_mozambique-super-169.jpg http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5B76/production/_89941432_5722a2d5-87b0-4691-8aea-173a29627e8f.jpg http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36498547 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: This man has found several pieces of MH370 and it did not cost $130 million dollars. MH370: Blaine Gibson's one-man search for answers http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1696C/production/_89942529_89942438.jpg http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/494B/production/_89936781_mozambique-super-169.jpg http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/5B76/production/_89941432_5722a2d5-87b0-4691-8aea-173a29627e8f.jpg http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36498547 They also indicate that the Australian search team is looking in roughly the right place - oceanographers predicted that aircraft parts would eventually wash up where they've been found. |
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In your rush to blame Australia (again a country that is not actually responsible for the search or the investigation since the craft was Malaysian, departed Malaysia, and was headed to China) you couldn't bother to read the article. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
In your rush to blame Australia (again a country that is not actually responsible for the search or the investigation since the craft was Malaysian, departed Malaysia, and was headed to China) you couldn't bother to read the article. They also indicate that the Australian search team is looking in roughly the right place - oceanographers predicted that aircraft parts would eventually wash up where they've been found. Uh, no. 1) Australia is leading the search for MH370 Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search Australia to continue to lead search for MH370 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-to-continue-to-lead-search-for-mh370-20150806-gistuo.html 2) Australia claimed the parts would show up in Indonesia not in Africa. Until, the parts started showing up in Africa. They are just stupid. But the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search, said initial debris drift modeling undertaken in June 2014 had mistakenly indicated that the first possible landfall of debris would be on the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, in the first weeks of July 2014. MH370 debris 'may drift to Indonesia' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/indonesia/11182696/MH370-debris-may-drift-to-Indonesia.html Australia says initial MH370 debris drift models gave wrong clues http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805 3) The Australia TSB are the debil. Everyone knows this. |
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What normal people have found and what the $180 million dollar Australian search did not find. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfxNNp2UAAA9MlR.jpg:large View Quote So they haven't found the left wing? Maybe Skynet was the left wing? |
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Quoted: Uh, no. 1) Australia is leading the search for MH370 Australia to continue to lead search for MH370 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-to-continue-to-lead-search-for-mh370-20150806-gistuo.html 2) Australia claimed the parts would show up in Indonesia not in Africa. Until, the parts started showing up in Africa. They are just stupid. MH370 debris 'may drift to Indonesia' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/indonesia/11182696/MH370-debris-may-drift-to-Indonesia.html Australia says initial MH370 debris drift models gave wrong clues http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805 3) The Australia TSB are the debil. Everyone knows this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In your rush to blame Australia (again a country that is not actually responsible for the search or the investigation since the craft was Malaysian, departed Malaysia, and was headed to China) you couldn't bother to read the article. They also indicate that the Australian search team is looking in roughly the right place - oceanographers predicted that aircraft parts would eventually wash up where they've been found. Uh, no. 1) Australia is leading the search for MH370 Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search Australia to continue to lead search for MH370 http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-to-continue-to-lead-search-for-mh370-20150806-gistuo.html 2) Australia claimed the parts would show up in Indonesia not in Africa. Until, the parts started showing up in Africa. They are just stupid. But the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is leading the search, said initial debris drift modeling undertaken in June 2014 had mistakenly indicated that the first possible landfall of debris would be on the west coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, in the first weeks of July 2014. MH370 debris 'may drift to Indonesia' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/indonesia/11182696/MH370-debris-may-drift-to-Indonesia.html Australia says initial MH370 debris drift models gave wrong clues http://www.reuters.com/article/us-malaysia-airlines-crash-oceanography-idUSKCN0QA03V20150805 3) The Australia TSB are the debil. Everyone knows this. And Australia is the lead at the request of the Malaysian Government, a request they could have rescinded at any time they chose. So since you finally answered these questions: Where exactly was the crash since you are so sure that they were dead wrong? |
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Where exactly was the crash since you are so sure that they were dead wrong? View Quote I don't know. I just know that Australia has repeatedly issued statements about finding blackbox pings, debris, the actual plane, drift models, and $130 million search zones that have all been wrong. 100% wrong. Yet, they have a multi-billion dollar OTH radar system designed to cover the area where the plane alledgedly intruded and they publicly refuse to say if they ever saw it on their radar. Why? So, in summation. Australia has been 100% wrong on all accounts and they have nothing that they have found of the plane, not one atom. However, on the other side of the planet, debris is still being found at odds to the 'expert' oceanographers original 'expert' analysis. If Australia said it was raining outside, I would go check for myself because their 'experts' are usually wrong. |
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Even Australians see the elephant in the room.
Malaysia Airlines MH370: money wasted for no logical reason The ATSB has a somewhat chequered history.
It has been criticised by pilots for its handling of the Norfolk Island Pel-Air Westwind ditching, where the pilot was hailed as a hero but then summarily “executed” by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and the ATSB. Its rail accident investigations have been found by experts to be slow, overly lengthy and unable to establish cause, or the correct cause, and not demonstrating independence (see the paper Lessons from Australian Derailment Investigations by rail engineer Ross Mitchell and solicitor Adam Bisits presented to the International Heavy Haul Association, Perth, in June last year). Now comes the MH370 search. Does the A in ATSB stand for “amateur”? Is it composed of taxpayer-funded, self-appointed armchair experts with no relevant qualifications to enable them to make sound judgment on these issues? The identity of individuals who investigate is kept secret. Self-appointed armchair “aviation experts” abound and are a real problem in getting the media to acknowledge what is real and what are conspiracy nutcase theories. View Quote It is time the heavy hitters of the media demanded an explanation from the government and the ATSB about why they ignored professional aviation advice and wasted two years of time and taxpayers’ money by pushing the illogical pilot unresponsive theory that has absolutely no evidence to support it. View Quote http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/malaysia-airlines-mh370-money-wasted-for-no-logical-reason/news-story/55ab2fec847b67d3c0e023861052daaf?nk=53302c03b2a416aaa241a991183aded8-1466017367 |
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And Australia is the lead at the request of the Malaysian Government, a request they could have rescinded at any time they chose. View Quote The Aussies are trying to pander to the pro-Dragon lobby. Notice they refuse to mention dragons. Even Obama finally said "islamic radicals" |
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Quoted: I don't know. I just know that Australia has repeatedly issued statements about finding blackbox pings, debris, the actual plane, drift models, and $130 million search zones that have all been wrong. 100% wrong. Yet, they have a multi-billion dollar OTH radar system designed to cover the area where the plane alledgedly intruded and they publicly refuse to say if they ever saw it on their radar. Why? So, in summation. Australia has been 100% wrong on all accounts and they have nothing that they have found of the plane, not one atom. However, on the other side of the planet, debris is still being found at odds to the 'expert' oceanographers original 'expert' analysis. If Australia said it was raining outside, I would go check for myself because their 'experts' are usually wrong. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Where exactly was the crash since you are so sure that they were dead wrong? I don't know. I just know that Australia has repeatedly issued statements about finding blackbox pings, debris, the actual plane, drift models, and $130 million search zones that have all been wrong. 100% wrong. Yet, they have a multi-billion dollar OTH radar system designed to cover the area where the plane alledgedly intruded and they publicly refuse to say if they ever saw it on their radar. Why? So, in summation. Australia has been 100% wrong on all accounts and they have nothing that they have found of the plane, not one atom. However, on the other side of the planet, debris is still being found at odds to the 'expert' oceanographers original 'expert' analysis. If Australia said it was raining outside, I would go check for myself because their 'experts' are usually wrong. Hell, they could have been parked on the debris the whole time and had a pretty low chance of finding it. |
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Hell, they could have been parked on the debris the whole time and had a pretty low chance of finding it. View Quote 1) They lost a towfish and were able to not only find quickly it but recover it several miles down. There is nothing wrong with their resolution of even small pieces of metal or ever century old shipwrecks. MH370 Searchers Find Lost 'Towfish' Scanner 12,000 Feet Under Ocean http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-searchers-find-lost-towfish-scanner-12-000-feet-under-n558996 2) The Australians have all the 'evidence' they need. Just ask them to provide the radar tapes for the day the plane disappeared. Either they tracked it or they didn't. It's that simple. Only two possibilities: 1) If they did not radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. The plane was never where they said it was. 2) If they did radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. Then they lied to the public. |
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Quoted: 1) They lost a towfish and were able to not only find quickly it but recover it several miles down. There is nothing wrong with their resolution of even small pieces of metal or ever century old shipwrecks. MH370 Searchers Find Lost 'Towfish' Scanner 12,000 Feet Under Ocean http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-searchers-find-lost-towfish-scanner-12-000-feet-under-n558996 2) The Australians have all the 'evidence' they need. Just ask them to provide the radar tapes for the day the plane disappeared. Either they tracked it or they didn't. It's that simple. Only two possibilities: 1) If they did not radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. The plane was never where they said it was. 2) If they did radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. Then they lied to the public. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hell, they could have been parked on the debris the whole time and had a pretty low chance of finding it. 1) They lost a towfish and were able to not only find quickly it but recover it several miles down. There is nothing wrong with their resolution of even small pieces of metal or ever century old shipwrecks. MH370 Searchers Find Lost 'Towfish' Scanner 12,000 Feet Under Ocean http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-searchers-find-lost-towfish-scanner-12-000-feet-under-n558996 2) The Australians have all the 'evidence' they need. Just ask them to provide the radar tapes for the day the plane disappeared. Either they tracked it or they didn't. It's that simple. Only two possibilities: 1) If they did not radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. The plane was never where they said it was. 2) If they did radar track it into their search areas, then they wasted $130 million on the search. Then they lied to the public. And they were able to find something that they knew exactly where it was? Conspiracy!!!!! |
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I would like to see data from a ping arc test. Fly a 777 along that arc and compare the ping data with the MH370 data. Has this been done yet?
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They dont want to find it. The answers were known just after is disappeared. Kind of like how your parents do everything to make you believe santa brought you those presents
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A search in the seventh arc in the southern Indian Ocean, off southeast Australia, has found no sign of the plane after scouring 105,000 sq kms. A 15,000 sq km patch remains to be covered but bad weather has delayed the completion of the search until July or August.
Malaysia, China and Australia recently agreed not to continue the search for the plane unless there was new evidence showing where the plane exactly lies. Two independent studies have concluded that MH370, based on the debris found so far, probably lies in the northern Indian Ocean. Eye witnesses in the Maldives have reported seeing a large plane, in the colours of Malaysia Airlines, flying west on March 8, 2014 and apparently on flames. The Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB), which is spearheading the search for MH370, has confirmed the debris found so far shows the drift theory placing the plane in the southern Indian Ocean. View Quote http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2016/06/29/mh370-debris-in-tanzania-the-farthest-north-found-so-far/ |
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If you read this thread, I have provided examples that they Australian government has provided tracking information to the media previously. Part of the mission of OTH radar system -- also covered in this thread -- is public safety. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/JORS.svg/450px-JORS.svg.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted:They won't provide the public the radar tapes from a national security early warning radar system the technical abilities of which are classified? What a shocker.
And they were able to find something that they knew exactly where it was? Conspiracy!!!!! If you read this thread, I have provided examples that they Australian government has provided tracking information to the media previously. Part of the mission of OTH radar system -- also covered in this thread -- is public safety. JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away.
It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft, as typically these are designed only to avoid detection by microwave radar. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/JORS.svg/450px-JORS.svg.png On March 20, 2014, it was reported that Malaysian Defence Minister (also Acting Transport Minister) Hishammuddin Hussein requested the US to give any information from the Pine Gap base near Alice Springs, possibly alluding to JORN as well.[33] On March 19, 2014, it was reported that an Australian Defence Department spokesman said it "won't be providing comment" regarding specific information on tracking MH370 by JORN.[34] However, several days prior to this, Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop told the Australian Parliament, "All our defence intelligence relating to Flight 370 has been, and will continue to be, passed on to Malaysian authorities..." In March 2015, before the July 2015 discovery of MH370 debris on Réunion Island, aviation technology expert Andre Milne requested information from JORN to prove or disprove that the aircraft ended up in the Indian Ocean, but he received no response from the Australian government. |
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Can you edit the title to take the breaking part out?
Hard shell in site staff informed me it is responsibility of the OP to edit the title when an even is no longer breaking news. |
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Can you edit the title to take the breaking part out? Hard shell in site staff informed me it is responsibility of the OP to edit the title when an even is no longer breaking news. View Quote As far as we know, the plane is still breaking........up. YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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poll fail I got my money on chicom AF shot it down to create an island they could claim.
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As far as we know, the plane is still breaking........up. YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can you edit the title to take the breaking part out? Hard shell in site staff informed me it is responsibility of the OP to edit the title when an even is no longer breaking news. As far as we know, the plane is still breaking........up. YYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! He's violating COC, according to the MODS |
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He's violating COC, according to the MODS The OP hasn't logged on since December. Then the mods should have edited it, to be "fair", according to hardshell I contacted them and let them know |
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He's violating COC, according to the MODS The OP hasn't logged on since December. Then the mods should have edited it, to be "fair", according to hardshell I contacted them and let them know Dear god stop crying. No one cares. |
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He's violating COC, according to the MODS The OP hasn't logged on since December. Then the mods should have edited it, to be "fair", according to hardshell I contacted them and let them know Isn't this what you posted in another thread this morning? Quoted:
So you just spend your time playing ar15.com hall monitor? Got it. He posted a picture, he didn't sneak in an ad. Looks like everybody wants to play hall monitor today. |
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