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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:07:44 AM EDT
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How do you figure? Here's the image from Post 138 that I mirrored: http://i.imgur.com/UFESZsy.jpg And here's the debris: http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg Keep in mind it looks like the trailing edge of the debris has been ripped off. But the rubber bumpers or whatever look almost identical, along with that vertical row of bolts to the right of the remaining rubber. It's definitely a 777 part. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Officials are confident part is from a 777, which almost certainly means it is from MH370. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/70670716/plane-debris-on-reunion-island-checked-for-mh370-ties If this is the case it really opens more questions than it closes. If this is the case we know there was floating wreckage, so why the hell did no one see anything? The currents around India would also support this showing up where it did. Are the flaperons water tight? I'd be pretty surprised if it floated for a year and a half. Maybe that damn dragon finally passed it.  
Airline geeks saying its from a 777. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6462442/ Interesting pics in post 138. If post 138 is true, that doesn't look like it came from MH370 at all. How do you figure? Here's the image from Post 138 that I mirrored: http://i.imgur.com/UFESZsy.jpg And here's the debris: http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg Keep in mind it looks like the trailing edge of the debris has been ripped off. But the rubber bumpers or whatever look almost identical, along with that vertical row of bolts to the right of the remaining rubber. It's definitely a 777 part. Those two parts are almost nothing alike. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:10:02 AM EDT
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Officials are confident part is from a 777, which almost certainly means it is from MH370. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/africa/70670716/plane-debris-on-reunion-island-checked-for-mh370-ties If this is the case it really opens more questions than it closes. If this is the case we know there was floating wreckage, so why the hell did no one see anything? The currents around India would also support this showing up where it did. Are the flaperons water tight? I'd be pretty surprised if it floated for a year and a half. Maybe that damn dragon finally passed it.
Airline geeks saying its from a 777. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6462442/ Interesting pics in post 138. If post 138 is true, that doesn't look like it came from MH370 at all. How do you figure? Here's the image from Post 138 that I mirrored: http://i.imgur.com/UFESZsy.jpg And here's the debris: http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg Keep in mind it looks like the trailing edge of the debris has been ripped off. But the rubber bumpers or whatever look almost identical, along with that vertical row of bolts to the right of the remaining rubber. It's definitely a 777 part. Those two parts are almost nothing alike. You must be part of the blind contingent browsing ARFCOM this morning.... |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:13:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:14:06 AM EDT
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:20:26 AM EDT
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Looks the same to me.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:21:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:21:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:22:15 AM EDT
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:24:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile of course they're not identical one is new and one has been floating around a hostile ocean for 16 months |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:24:52 AM EDT
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I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What looks wrong to you? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:30:34 AM EDT
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What looks wrong to you? Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:32:06 AM EDT
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I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Like another poster said, of course they're not identical. One was ripped off an aircraft and floating around for a bit. Maybe this will help.... 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:32:17 AM EDT
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I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:33:06 AM EDT
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Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What looks wrong to you? Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The triangular structure is the hinge/attach point to the rest of the aircraft. Very likely that's the part that detached to separate the washed up part from the rest of the aircraft. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:37:02 AM EDT
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me.
Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:43:18 AM EDT
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Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What looks wrong to you? Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think the shape and width appearance is due to perspective and the triangular piece near the leading edge on the new part was ripped off. There are barnacles growing on the edge where it was ripped from that you can see in this pic.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:44:21 AM EDT
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong.  That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom.
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:44:41 AM EDT
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Something that kind of surprises me is that I would have assumed many sections, components would have some sort of serialized identification on them.
I have assumed (I am speaking from a layman's perspective) that once a aircraft such as this was built, it would have the same structural components all of it's service life and those parts would have something to match it's identity to that of the aircraft it was assembled with. This washed up part, had it had some sort of identifying markings (etched parts, ID placards) we would know if this is the missing aircraft. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:48:41 AM EDT
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Something that kind of surprises me is that I would have assumed many sections, components would have some sort of serialized identification on them. I have assumed (I am speaking from a layman's perspective) that once a aircraft such as this was built, it would have the same structural components all of it's service life and those parts would have something to match it's identity to that of the aircraft it was assembled with. This washed up part, had it had some sort of identifying markings (etched parts, ID placards) we would know if this is the missing aircraft. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It did. The data plate is just glued/stamped on, however. If you look at the above photos, it appears that it wasn't held on with enough strength to survive the impact/16 months in an ocean. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 11:57:58 AM EDT
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It did. The data plate is just glued/stamped on, however. If you look at the above photos, it appears that it wasn't held on with enough strength to survive the impact/16 months in an ocean. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something that kind of surprises me is that I would have assumed many sections, components would have some sort of serialized identification on them. I have assumed (I am speaking from a layman's perspective) that once a aircraft such as this was built, it would have the same structural components all of it's service life and those parts would have something to match it's identity to that of the aircraft it was assembled with. This washed up part, had it had some sort of identifying markings (etched parts, ID placards) we would know if this is the missing aircraft. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It did. The data plate is just glued/stamped on, however. If you look at the above photos, it appears that it wasn't held on with enough strength to survive the impact/16 months in an ocean. Fortunately, there is some type of identifying information inside the flaperon. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1600556_Breaking_News___Malaysia_Aircraft_Missing_Enroute_to_Beijing_China___Now_with_Poll_.html&page=220#i54843396 |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:01:25 PM EDT
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I suspect that if any airliner, regardless of model, had come up missing one of those flaps somebody would know about it. Occam's Razor says this is a chunk of MH370. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:03:02 PM EDT
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I suspect that if any airliner, regardless of model, had come up missing one of those flaps somebody would know about it. Occam's Razor says this is a chunk of MH370. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I suspect that if any airliner, regardless of model, had come up missing one of those flaps somebody would know about it. Occam's Razor says this is a chunk of MH370. How many Boeing 777 missing their wings? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:05:59 PM EDT
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Fortunately, there is some type of identifying information inside the flaperon. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1600556_Breaking_News___Malaysia_Aircraft_Missing_Enroute_to_Beijing_China___Now_with_Poll_.html&page=220#i54843396 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something that kind of surprises me is that I would have assumed many sections, components would have some sort of serialized identification on them. I have assumed (I am speaking from a layman's perspective) that once a aircraft such as this was built, it would have the same structural components all of it's service life and those parts would have something to match it's identity to that of the aircraft it was assembled with. This washed up part, had it had some sort of identifying markings (etched parts, ID placards) we would know if this is the missing aircraft. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It did. The data plate is just glued/stamped on, however. If you look at the above photos, it appears that it wasn't held on with enough strength to survive the impact/16 months in an ocean. Fortunately, there is some type of identifying information inside the flaperon. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1600556_Breaking_News___Malaysia_Aircraft_Missing_Enroute_to_Beijing_China___Now_with_Poll_.html&page=220#i54843396 That's the panel identifier number, it's there so you know what access panel you have taken off. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:18:00 PM EDT
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Are dudes on here really arguing over whether it appears from the pics to be a trip-7 flap or not?
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What looks wrong to you? Shape, width and that triangular structure (looks like part of a hinge) on the left hand side of the (new) photo. The washed up (wing?) looks much narrower. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:25:08 PM EDT
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None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:28:16 PM EDT
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That's the panel identifier number, it's there so you know what access panel you have taken off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Something that kind of surprises me is that I would have assumed many sections, components would have some sort of serialized identification on them. I have assumed (I am speaking from a layman's perspective) that once a aircraft such as this was built, it would have the same structural components all of it's service life and those parts would have something to match it's identity to that of the aircraft it was assembled with. This washed up part, had it had some sort of identifying markings (etched parts, ID placards) we would know if this is the missing aircraft. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It did. The data plate is just glued/stamped on, however. If you look at the above photos, it appears that it wasn't held on with enough strength to survive the impact/16 months in an ocean. Fortunately, there is some type of identifying information inside the flaperon. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1600556_Breaking_News___Malaysia_Aircraft_Missing_Enroute_to_Beijing_China___Now_with_Poll_.html&page=220#i54843396 That's the panel identifier number, it's there so you know what access panel you have taken off. Seeing as how the panels are all hand fitted...it will have certain identification numbers telling exactly where it came..and which aircraft it was mounted on. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:29:30 PM EDT
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:37:39 PM EDT
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. That just means that you are in on the cover up. Building an extra flaperon, beating it up, and putting it on the beach of a French Island in the Indian Ocean is exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from the military-industrial-complex to obfuscate the true effectiveness of the Australian OTH radar installations ... or, uh, something like that. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:40:12 PM EDT
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So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Found in French territory - that drags the French into the official investigation. So, the French are going to follow French procedure, which means the thing goes to mainland France for coordination with other investigative bodies, along with any other debris recovered in their territory. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:41:01 PM EDT
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So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 'They' need time to buff off the marks from the dragon teeth. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:43:57 PM EDT
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So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Found in French territory - that drags the French into the official investigation. So, the French are going to follow French procedure, which means the thing goes to mainland France for coordination with other investigative bodies, along with any other debris recovered in their territory. Beats Malaysia. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:50:50 PM EDT
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Clicking around on Twitter, it looks as if someone may have found a luggage remnant near the wing piece. I'm not the best with French. https://twitter.com/delarue_julien/status/626670886335156224 |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:52:33 PM EDT
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That just means that you are in on the cover up. Building an extra flaperon, beating it up, and putting it on the beach of a French Island in the Indian Ocean is exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from the military-industrial-complex to obfuscate the true effectiveness of the Australian OTH radar installations ... or, uh, something like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. That just means that you are in on the cover up. Building an extra flaperon, beating it up, and putting it on the beach of a French Island in the Indian Ocean is exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from the military-industrial-complex to obfuscate the true effectiveness of the Australian OTH radar installations ... or, uh, something like that. busted.... 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 12:55:27 PM EDT
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That just means that you are in on the cover up. Building an extra flaperon, beating it up, and putting it on the beach of a French Island in the Indian Ocean is exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from the military-industrial-complex to obfuscate the true effectiveness of the Australian OTH radar installations ... or, uh, something like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to say it isn't it (missing aircraft), to a guy who knows jack shit about airplanes (me), the part in the these photos just don't look identical to me. Could I be wrong, absolutely. The shapes and lines of these two wings just don't look the same, very close..but not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile None of us are Boeing engineers, so any of us could be wrong. That's the fun in discussing things on arfcom. I build 777 wings...and that flaperon is located very close to where my work is done. That just means that you are in on the cover up. Building an extra flaperon, beating it up, and putting it on the beach of a French Island in the Indian Ocean is exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from the military-industrial-complex to obfuscate the true effectiveness of the Australian OTH radar installations ... or, uh, something like that. Look at his avatar. Clearly associated with dragons. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:01:44 PM EDT
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So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Found in French territory - that drags the French into the official investigation. So, the French are going to follow French procedure, which means the thing goes to mainland France for coordination with other investigative bodies, along with any other debris recovered in their territory. Beats Malaysia. Malaysia is in a tight bind. If this aircraft had been en route from Los Angeles to Tokyo, and the same actions taken by the crew/whomever, I don't know if we'd have any better search results. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:07:09 PM EDT
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:15:04 PM EDT
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Like another poster said, of course they're not identical. One was ripped off an aircraft and floating around for a bit. Maybe this will help.... http://i.imgur.com/aPlCVoE.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vstJsyx.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Those two parts are almost nothing alike. Try again: http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/47422/1438211661DcJ2tW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/zi23Q5Z.jpg I'm sorry but they are not identical. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Like another poster said, of course they're not identical. One was ripped off an aircraft and floating around for a bit. Maybe this will help.... http://i.imgur.com/aPlCVoE.jpg http://i.imgur.com/vstJsyx.jpg Damn, good eye. You are correct and they are the same model flaperons. I'm now convinced it is from the triple-7 |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:18:08 PM EDT
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Malaysia is in a tight bind. If this aircraft had been en route from Los Angeles to Tokyo, and the same actions taken by the crew/whomever, I don't know if we'd have any better search results. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So they find this part wash up on a beach and it is clearly marked with a number. I'm hearing on the radio they are going to fly that part to France to get looked at. I don't see how someone couldn't just look up the damn number and see it if it from the missing plane? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Found in French territory - that drags the French into the official investigation. So, the French are going to follow French procedure, which means the thing goes to mainland France for coordination with other investigative bodies, along with any other debris recovered in their territory. Beats Malaysia. Malaysia is in a tight bind. If this aircraft had been en route from Los Angeles to Tokyo, and the same actions taken by the crew/whomever, I don't know if we'd have any better search results. I'm recalling (possibly incorrectly) the initial days of the investigations. Nothing against Malaysia, but their handling of that sucked. No information, bad information, or simply bizarre information being distributed, etc.. I'm just not sure I would trust any findings that would have come from a Malaysia-run overall investigation and report. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 1:46:06 PM EDT
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Clicking around on Twitter, it looks as if someone may have found a luggage remnant near the wing piece. I'm not the best with French. https://twitter.com/delarue_julien/status/626670886335156224 It is crazy to me that a piece of luggage would wash up within mere feet of a piece of the plane given the distance of the supposed drift. I would think two things that different in shape, weight and buoyancy would have dramatically different float patterns. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:04:21 PM EDT
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:34:54 PM EDT
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Process of elimination. 4 777 losses: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Shot down and crashed in Ukraine, not a source. British Airways Flight 38 - Crashed on UK runway in 2008 - Also on land Asiana Airlines Flight 214 - Plowed into SFO runway, July 2013 - land, again Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Vanished over Indian Ocean in 2014 Which plane would you guess the Flaperon found in the Indian Ocean is from? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:44:20 PM EDT
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It is crazy to me that a piece of luggage would wash up within mere feet of a piece of the plane given the distance of the supposed drift. I would think two things that different in shape, weight and buoyancy would have dramatically different float patterns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Clicking around on Twitter, it looks as if someone may have found a luggage remnant near the wing piece. I'm not the best with French. https://twitter.com/delarue_julien/status/626670886335156224 It is crazy to me that a piece of luggage would wash up within mere feet of a piece of the plane given the distance of the supposed drift. I would think two things that different in shape, weight and buoyancy would have dramatically different float patterns. How much debris and how much luggage was on that plane? When dealing with large numbers, abnormal things are likely to happen. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:52:24 PM EDT
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Process of elimination. 4 777 losses: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Shot down and crashed in Ukraine, not a source. British Airways Flight 38 - Crashed on UK runway in 2008 - Also on land Asiana Airlines Flight 214 - Plowed into SFO runway, July 2013 - land, again Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Vanished over Indian Ocean in 2014 Which plane would you guess the Flaperon found in the Indian Ocean is from? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Process of elimination. 4 777 losses: Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 - Shot down and crashed in Ukraine, not a source. British Airways Flight 38 - Crashed on UK runway in 2008 - Also on land Asiana Airlines Flight 214 - Plowed into SFO runway, July 2013 - land, again Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Vanished over Indian Ocean in 2014 Which plane would you guess the Flaperon found in the Indian Ocean is from? It has to be it then. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:54:07 PM EDT
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Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 2:59:50 PM EDT
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This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from Heat lot? |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:01:37 PM EDT
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This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from As well as who drilled the holes, filled them and installed the assembly. |
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:05:41 PM EDT
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As well as who drilled the holes, filled them and installed the assembly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from As well as who drilled the holes, filled them and installed the assembly. sucks for the flaperon putter oner guy, then damn thing just fell right the fuck off 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:06:56 PM EDT
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Clicking around on Twitter, it looks as if someone may have found a luggage remnant near the wing piece. I'm not the best with French. https://twitter.com/delarue_julien/status/626670886335156224 It is crazy to me that a piece of luggage would wash up within mere feet of a piece of the plane given the distance of the supposed drift. I would think two things that different in shape, weight and buoyancy would have dramatically different float patterns. How much debris and how much luggage was on that plane? When dealing with large numbers, abnormal things are likely to happen. But there is no way that that particular piece of luggage spent 16 months floating in the ocean. 
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Posted: 7/30/2015 3:13:35 PM EDT
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It's from a 777. there are Boeing part numbers all over it...and every one of those numbers is recorded. Are there unique identifying numbers on it (serial number type things)? Yes...every single part on every aircraft built by Boeing has a unique ID number...many specific parts also have a unique serial number. This, every single part is traceable. They can tell the exact day and heat lot that every part is made from Heat lot? Which lot of material came out of the steel/aluminum plant. Every single part has who issued the material, who machined it, who inspected it, who sent it off to assembly to have minor fittings installed and on and on and on. There's an amazing amount of paperwork involved in making plane parts |
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