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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:23:52 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question.
EDIT: I've been shown the ignorance of my ways, I didn't know there was such an easy way of shutting off the NRA mail, good to know. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:27:47 PM EDT
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If you do not wish to receive these mailings, you can: (1) opt-out of email lists immediately by following the instructions at the bottom of the email, (2) email us using our Contact Us page, (3) call us at 1-800-672-3888, (4) write to us at National Rifle Association of America, 11250 Waples Mill Road; Fairfax, VA 22030.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:28:34 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. This is my biggest gripe about the NRA. I think they do good things, it would seem that that money could be put to better use. For instance, they called me once to ask if I would make a donation to support the Heller case and if I did I would received a free knife or something. I said I would donate the money, but they could keep the knife as I'd rather have that money be put to good use. I was told that he didn't have a way to NOT send me the knife 
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:29:07 PM EDT
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Support your gun rights yourself, or support those that do it for you.
Sounds like you do the former and don't really need the latter. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:31:50 PM EDT
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Whatever, NRA is far from perfect but it's what they are scared of in Congress. Pay, don't, whatever, not joining is silly but it's your deal
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Support your gun rights yourself, or support those that do it for you. Sounds like you do the former and don't really need the latter. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:34:12 PM EDT
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They helped us get SBR/SBS in 2010.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:35:35 PM EDT
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They swing a very big stick with congress. That is why I am a member. The more members, the bigger their stick gets, think of your membership as viagra for the gun lobby. They were involved in some unsavory local politics in GA a few years back but the net overall is a win for gun owners. I would like to see some changes but wayne la pierre isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:36:00 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. If you can't figure out the opt out option for NRA mailings you more than likely should not own a firearm. BTW, those mailings raise tons of money, that is why they do them. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:37:13 PM EDT
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Aren't you the special snowflake.
Whatever will we do without your $35?  |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:37:17 PM EDT
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NRA has done a great job lobbying. That was where the fight was pre-Heller.
NRA may not be best in the courts, but they are far better at lobbying then SAF or CATO. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:37:26 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. This type of post proves that you have zero fucking clue about how the NRA works. If you want to regurgitate retarded claims at least go out do the minimum amt of research. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:37:55 PM EDT
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How did they try to torpedo Heller?
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:40:19 PM EDT
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How did they try to torpedo Heller? Yeah, I'm confused about that as well. Like I said above, I gave the money when they were fundraising for that fight. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:41:41 PM EDT
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The NRA has political clout because there are 5 million members. Imagine if we had 10 million members how much more clout they would have.
The NRA is not perfect. They have made mistakes in the past, and will probably make mistakes again, but a lot of the rights you have today are thanks to the NRA. I have nothing against GOA or SAF (which I'm a life member), or any other organizations, but they don't have the power that the NRA does. I opted out of mailings, and I probably get 2 a year. If nothing else, pay 10 bucks for an associate mebership, it gives them a few bucks to help with youth shooting programs, and overhead expenses, and gets them one member closer to hitting 6 million members. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:42:43 PM EDT
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If you do not wish to receive these mailings, you can: (1) opt-out of email lists immediately by following the instructions at the bottom of the email, (2) email us using our Contact Us page, (3) call us at 1-800-672-3888, (4) write to us at National Rifle Association of America, 11250 Waples Mill Road; Fairfax, VA 22030. That's way too much work. I'd rather anonymously bash them on an internet forum from the comfort of my recliner in mom's basement. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:42:48 PM EDT
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Ive been highly critical of NRA stances (ie: black rifles etc.) in the past. But I appreciated their effort after SH so I joined. I still appreciate it and renewed yesterday as a matter of fact.
As long as they continue to support black rifles and the type, they will have my support. Very proud to be a NRA member since SH.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:46:39 PM EDT
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In before everyone questioning the NRA gets accused of having a small penis. Did I make it?
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:47:01 PM EDT
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Life member for 20 years here. Do it.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:47:39 PM EDT
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They talked down a pro gun bill here in MO just a few weeks ago, because they didn't bother reading it.
The media LOVED trumpeting that all around the state 
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:47:53 PM EDT
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How did they try to torpedo Heller? They were against it going to the Supreme Court. I can kind of understand that. It was a wait for the right case/time thing. They wanted to be 100% it would be in our favor. Hindsight is 20/20, but can you imagine if one vote went the other way and we lost? It was a big gamble that paid off. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:48:09 PM EDT
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I'm Life in NRA and annual in SAF. Covers my concerns pretty well. I need to go Life in SAF, and start doing more donations to both.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:48:09 PM EDT
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If you do not wish to receive these mailings, you can: (1) opt-out of email lists immediately by following the instructions at the bottom of the email, (2) email us using our Contact Us page, (3) call us at 1-800-672-3888, (4) write to us at National Rifle Association of America, 11250 Waples Mill Road; Fairfax, VA 22030. I am a life member, my wife and my dog Roscoe also. Just ask that they not send you all the shit. We get one magazine to save them money and refused the gifts. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:48:40 PM EDT
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tldr
Nothing makes up for the cardboard shit hat they send. nra isn't just for yo grandpa anymo |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:49:09 PM EDT
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I've been a member for as long as I can remember. I also contribute $50 each month to their Institute for Legislative Action.
They are not perfect. Neither am I. I consider my money well spent. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:49:19 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. 
http://www.nramemberservices.org/members/faq/faq.aspx Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA? A: Simply email us at [email protected] or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:49:44 PM EDT
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Is $20 such a big deal when it comes down to it?
For Christ's sake, join up.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:51:40 PM EDT
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If it wasn't for the NRA you guys would be shooting bolt guns and revolvers by now.
--> Read that as no self-loading anything. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:52:13 PM EDT
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How did they try to torpedo Heller? I recall at first they wanted to go about it via legislation (which was passed IIRC; Obama flew back to DC during the 2008 election to vote against it). I think they were afraid of a loss in the court. There is a long history of 2nd cases with bad decisions not being heard by the Supremes, for whatever reason. Morton Grove comes to mind, as well as the case from TX resulting from a restraining order. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:56:36 PM EDT
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If it wasn't for the NRA you guys would be shooting bolt guns and revolvers by now. No, sniper rifles and saturday night specials would be banned. Over under shotguns with long barrels would be good to go. With proper permits and storage, of course. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:58:20 PM EDT
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I'm a Life Member.
Are they perfect? Far from it. But they are the biggest dog in the fight, and they do a lot of good. And I firmly believe that the NRA/ILA has some seriously smart people in their ranks that play LOOONG Ball. Sometimes impatience to get something done or react doesn't fit into the NRA's game plan because they don't have all the duckies lined up that they want to knock down, or they feel the time isn't yet ripe. Just my opinion. But no one has to join. Membership dues don't go into the fight anyway, they are used for day to day operations, and NRA programs like ranges, marksmanship training, Eddie Eagle and such. If you want to put money in the fight, just make a contribution to the NRA/ILA which is the political action organization that takes the fight to the streets. No membership required. Goes for members too; guys & gals, MEMBERSHIP DUES DO NOT GO TO FIGHT FOR GUN RIGHTS. Contribute to the ILA( Institute for Legislative Action) Membership DOES make the organization bigger and badder though..... 
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:58:55 PM EDT
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sense you ask,hell yes you should join. numbers count .
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Posted: 3/5/2014 3:59:08 PM EDT
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They talked down a pro gun bill here in MO just a few weeks ago, because they didn't bother reading it. The media LOVED trumpeting that all around the state Link? |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:00:21 PM EDT
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No, sniper rifles and saturday night specials would be banned. Over under shotguns with long barrels would be good to go. With proper permits and storage, of course. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it wasn't for the NRA you guys would be shooting bolt guns and revolvers by now. No, sniper rifles and saturday night specials would be banned. Over under shotguns with long barrels would be good to go. With proper permits and storage, of course. Just like England, (in before the Brit's w / their single shot ARs.) |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:00:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can't figure out the opt out option for NRA mailings you more than likely should not own a firearm. BTW, those mailings raise tons of money, that is why they do them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. If you can't figure out the opt out option for NRA mailings you more than likely should not own a firearm. BTW, those mailings raise tons of money, that is why they do them. Opt Out We also use your membership information to send you notices in the mail or by email about special member benefits, discounts, and offers. If you do not wish to receive these mailings, you can: (1) opt-out of email lists immediately by following the instructions at the bottom of the email, (2) email us using our Contact Us page, (3) call us at 1-800-672-3888, (4) write to us at National Rifle Association of America, 11250 Waples Mill Road; Fairfax, VA 22030. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:02:19 PM EDT
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What is withholding membership *sometimes* supposed to accomplish?
If you're unconvinced of the good the organization is doing at some specific moment in time, then pick and choose when and how much money you donate, but let the NRA count your membership. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:03:59 PM EDT
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The NRA spearheaded the CCW campaign in Illinois. They also got SBRs approved in Illinois.
But, go ahead and keep your money and let others do the heavy lifting.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:04:40 PM EDT
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They were against it going to the Supreme Court. I can kind of understand that. It was a wait for the right case/time thing. They wanted to be 100% it would be in our favor. Hindsight is 20/20, but can you imagine if one vote went the other way and we lost? It was a big gamble that paid off. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did they try to torpedo Heller? They were against it going to the Supreme Court. I can kind of understand that. It was a wait for the right case/time thing. They wanted to be 100% it would be in our favor. Hindsight is 20/20, but can you imagine if one vote went the other way and we lost? It was a big gamble that paid off. 1 vote...1 fucking vote. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:05:07 PM EDT
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Aren't you the special snowflake. Whatever will we do without your $35?
yeah, belittlement is a great tool to bring people to your side! 
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:07:38 PM EDT
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yeah, belittlement is a great tool to bring people to your side! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Aren't you the special snowflake. Whatever will we do without your $35?
yeah, belittlement is a great tool to bring people to your side! lol |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:07:47 PM EDT
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It isn't 'just' the money from members that get the job done,its the 'numbers' of members that congressmen look at.
Life member here. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:08:27 PM EDT
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The NRA is extremely important because they lobby Congress to pass laws securing our rights and to reject laws that infringe on them. They also have programs to teach the shooting sports to new people and training people in firearms ownership. Then there is the legal defense fund.
If you become a LIFE MEMBER of the NRA you get a ballot whenever they have an election so you can vote for the board of directors who decide which way the NRA will go. The NRA expanded to 5 million members (just 5% of gun owners) after they took a STAND AND FIGHT approach to more restrictions. They've been actively working to turn back the noose on many of them, too. Because of this, I don't think the NRA will cowtow to liberals to destroy our rights. It is more profitable for them to stand against new restrictions. And you can ensure it continues this way by becoming a member. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:09:15 PM EDT
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The NRA spearheaded the CCW campaign in Illinois. They also got SBRs approved in Illinois. But, go ahead and keep your money and let others do the heavy lifting.
This needs repeated & bumped. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:09:54 PM EDT
[#44]
I see you justified spending money for a team membership to this website, but are conflicted on whether or not to spend money joining the largest and most effective gun rights organization in the world. That tells me a lot about your priorities.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:11:45 PM EDT
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1 vote...1 fucking vote. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did they try to torpedo Heller? They were against it going to the Supreme Court. I can kind of understand that. It was a wait for the right case/time thing. They wanted to be 100% it would be in our favor. Hindsight is 20/20, but can you imagine if one vote went the other way and we lost? It was a big gamble that paid off. 1 vote...1 fucking vote. In light of the John Roberts Obamacare decision, would you trust such a case to go before SCOTUS now? Many people believe he is "compromised." Given the NSA surveillance of the country, it is very possible that he is into some things that would influence his behavior. Maybe he is gay and doesn't want his family to find out? Maybe he likes kiddie porn? Who knows. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:13:23 PM EDT
[#46]
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Whatever, NRA is far from perfect but it's what they are scared of in Congress. Pay, don't, whatever, not joining is silly but it's your deal A true gentleman, it allowes me to bite my tounge. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:13:50 PM EDT
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You're putting too much thought into it. I supported them last year, no big deal. I won't give them my money this year because they spent all the money I gave them sending me multiple letters per week asking for more money and it was really annoying. Do you want to be burried in NRA mail, that should be your question. I asked them to stop doing that one time - never got one more single item. They were understanding (like they heard it before) and are fine just emailing me. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:16:10 PM EDT
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Whatever, NRA is far from perfect but it's what they are scared of in Congress. Pay, don't, whatever, not joining is silly but it's your deal Yep. If the NRA had the membership numbers the AARP did, no one in Washington would ever touch gun control. But by all means, if throwing away a little junk mail is too much to handle don't join. |
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:19:02 PM EDT
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I just donated to $175 to the NRA's Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF), because I feel that we need to support them as much as we can.
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Posted: 3/5/2014 4:19:44 PM EDT
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For the record, an NRA rep I spoke to claimed they get a significant amount of money from mailers. If people weren't sending them money, they'd stop doing it.
Don't blame them, blame gun owners who send money for gimmicky products but don't bother to contribute money otherwise. |
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