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I change the oil in both of our vehicles about every 4 months. I usually aim to change it in November, so that I'm not outside during the winter months crawling underneath our vehicles - we don't have a garage. 4 months seems to match up with the engine oil life estimator on my wife's Tahoe.
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My 2004 Trailblazer with the 5.3L goes about 6k on 5w30 valvoline, with a valvoline filter. And my 2000 Blazer has a hazmat parking permit and marks it territory, and gets oil added as needed. Yet I still change that at about 5k just to keep the filter from filling up with shit and it gets whatever is on sale between autozone, advance, carquest, and napa. Valvoline, castrol, Is about all I will run.
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Used Oil Analysis' at Bob Is The Oil Guy BITOG.com NoVaRight, you are half right. UOA's are useful for a number of reasons. Most people use them to check the oil condition, but they also use them to check the engine condition. One shows the other. UOAs show wear metals (rings, cylinders, cam lobes, etc) as well as anti-freeze, water, and fuel amounts in the oil. People get UOAs to see whether there are any bad things going on with their engine. Also shown in the UOAs are oil life indicators. TBN (total base number, how much acid-eating additives are left), insolubles (dirt/carbon particles), and viscosity (high or low) show the condition of the oil itself. Oil can fail in several ways. It becomes too viscous, or too thin. It can contain too much dirt or carbon (filter failure, too). Most consider the main failure point to be when the TBN goes below 1. At that point it can no longer counter the effects of acids that develop and is no longer protecting in that way. But by and large I think users get them done because THEY ARE ANAL about their car and oil. Anality manifests itself in a number of ways with cars and oil. The 3k mile change is one. Buying the best oil and filter available (or are perceived to be the best) and changing way before the oil needs it is yet another. Both, however, depend on substituting money for knowledge. The user is throwing money away in lieu of knowing actually what is going on. By using UOAs to check the engine and oil health, the user is seeing what is going on and can plan accordingly. One does not need to buy UOAs at each oil change. A user can get one done on the first one to see that there are no catastrophic failures right from the factory. They can get another done after a few more oil changes to see if anything has developed over the short term. Then they could get one at any point thereafter, as they see fit. Or, they could get it done at EVERY oil change as a hobby. There are a lot of hobbies that cost waaaaay more, so talking bad about the buyers of such things is pretty useless. But the overall question is when to change oil. The answer is, after you learn about oil, and come up with a number, THAT's the right interval for you. But for my money, 5k mile intervals w/Mobil1, oil weight dependent upon the vehicle. BTW, I remember an old web page that is no longer available that tested oil and filter life on a '98-ish Z28. The results were amazing and went HARD against the grain of conventional thought. The website took a UOA every certain interval and checked all the numbers. The oil (Mobil 1 5w-30) protected out to about 16k miles IIRC. Filters lasted approx. 10k miles. It was amazing to see it all happen. It completely blew apart the 3k mile interval thing, a holdover from non-detergent oils of the past, and gave rise to the 10k mile intervals of today. Still, I can't bring myself to leave oil in that long so I change at 5k miles. YMMV. |
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[#5]
On my 7.3l F250 deisel I change the Rotella T oil and filter at 5000 miles. I send in oil samples on occasion and the results always tell me I am wasting my money and should go to longer intervals.
Oil changes at 3000 miles are derp unless you just like to waste $. The ONLY way to know for sure when to change is oil analysis. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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[#6]
I change my oil on my prizm every 7500 miles. It has 265000 miles on it. My sons 97 Malibu had 280000 miles on it. We got rid of it but the engine ran strong.
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2005 Dakota 4.7 with 148,000 miles on it. Oil and filter changed every 3-5K with whatever brand oil the dealer has in their tank in 5w-30.
Wife's car gets changed every 3-5 k with synthetic and NAPA Gold filter. We run synthetic in hers because she is not the best in the world at following a maintenance schedule. 1993 Grand Cherokee 4.0 gets changed whenever I think about it but probably once or twice a year. It doesn't get driven much. |
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[#8]
4k-5k miles. Any longer and and the engine runs noticibly more rough. That's also when the oil starts to appear dirty so changing it seems like a good idea.
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[#12]
Every 5000 miles but the Civic doesn't get 5000 miles in a year so it gets oil changes about every 9-10 months.
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[#13]
It blows me away what people spend on Royal Purple when M1 0W-40 is about $25/5 quarts at Walmart.
And it is unlikely that M1 0W-40 will be "too thick" for whatever you drive. |
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Quoted:
Used Oil Analysis' at Bob Is The Oil Guy BITOG.com http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/forums/3/1/Used_Oil_Analysis_-_Gasoline NoVaRight, you are half right. UOA's are useful for a number of reasons. Most people use them to check the oil condition, but they also use them to check the engine condition. One shows the other. UOAs show wear metals (rings, cylinders, cam lobes, etc) as well as anti-freeze, water, and fuel amounts in the oil. People get UOAs to see whether there are any bad things going on with their engine. Also shown in the UOAs are oil life indicators. TBN (total base number, how much acid-eating additives are left), insolubles (dirt/carbon particles), and viscosity (high or low) show the condition of the oil itself. Oil can fail in several ways. It becomes too viscous, or too thin. It can contain too much dirt or carbon (filter failure, too). Most consider the main failure point to be when the TBN goes below 1. At that point it can no longer counter the effects of acids that develop and is no longer protecting in that way. But by and large I think users get them done because THEY ARE ANAL about their car and oil. Anality manifests itself in a number of ways with cars and oil. The 3k mile change is one. Buying the best oil and filter available (or are perceived to be the best) and changing way before the oil needs it is yet another. Both, however, depend on substituting money for knowledge. The user is throwing money away in lieu of knowing actually what is going on. By using UOAs to check the engine and oil health, the user is seeing what is going on and can plan accordingly. One does not need to buy UOAs at each oil change. A user can get one done on the first one to see that there are no catastrophic failures right from the factory. They can get another done after a few more oil changes to see if anything has developed over the short term. Then they could get one at any point thereafter, as they see fit. Or, they could get it done at EVERY oil change as a hobby. There are a lot of hobbies that cost waaaaay more, so talking bad about the buyers of such things is pretty useless. But the overall question is when to change oil. The answer is, after you learn about oil, and come up with a number, THAT's the right interval for you. But for my money, 5k mile intervals w/Mobil1, oil weight dependent upon the vehicle. BTW, I remember an old web page that is no longer available that tested oil and filter life on a '98-ish Z28. The results were amazing and went HARD against the grain of conventional thought. The website took a UOA every certain interval and checked all the numbers. The oil (Mobil 1 5w-30) protected out to about 16k miles IIRC. Filters lasted approx. 10k miles. It was amazing to see it all happen. It completely blew apart the 3k mile interval thing, a holdover from non-detergent oils of the past, and gave rise to the 10k mile intervals of today. Still, I can't bring myself to leave oil in that long so I change at 5k miles. YMMV. http://www.briggsauto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/oil-sludge-engine-1024x768.jpg View Quote What is the story on that head in the picture? |
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Every 6 or 7 thousand miles. I'm not terribly precise about it. As long as it gets done within a reasonable range of miles in between I'm happy.
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[#18]
Once a year, or about 10K.
M1 Extended Performance oil and filter. |
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[#19]
5K in my 5.2 Dakota. Mobil 1 and PureOne filter. I used to do 9Kish before I turbo'd it.
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Quoted: OK there's just no way you NEED to change the fuel filter every 15k. Kudos to you for taking care of your baby, but damn, dude... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 6.0 Superduty Oil - 5k Fuel Filter every 15k OK there's just no way you NEED to change the fuel filter every 15k. Kudos to you for taking care of your baby, but damn, dude... |
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[#21]
Every 8,000 miles or every 6 months , whichever comes first. So I basically change it twice a year since I don't drive very much.
ETA : Mobil 1 |
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[#22]
Mobil 1, just changed it today in my Honda. I run it every 5,000 but ran the last over . I run it every 10,000 in my mustang.
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[#23]
Kendall Super D-XA 15w40. 7000-10000 mile change depending.
Oil analysis is a must for newer vehicles. FYI there are almost no group 1 oils on the market anymore. And if youre using the cheapest walmart oil you can find then you would void a warranty on a new engine if you had any issues. Minimum oil spec is API GF5 approved. Has to be a synthetic blend of some level to meet it. End of story. GF6 spec will be released in 2015 for probably 2016 MY release. Expect group 3 bass oils to the the minimum. |
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Daily driver F150 is every 6K, and the oil life meter generally shows 40% left.
On the Camaro I drive about 2 or 3K a year, it's once a year. Lawnmower? Never. Well actually I changed it once at about the 6 year mark. I think it ran worse after that so I won't be changing it again. I consider the push mower disposable. Thus far, it's lasted 12 years, still fires up on the first or second pull. |
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Two dodge pickups one 2007 3500 5.9 Cummins, the other a 96 2500 5.9 Cummins.
Delo and filter 5k Fuel filter and air filter every 10k 2012 vw jetta TDI Oil every 10k Other filters when the book says too. |
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On my DuraMax I change it when the oil management system tells me. 8.5k to about 11k I have 151k miles on the truck.
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I'm not sure Mobile 1 has to be changed. My truck will go 15000 miles on it before the change oil message even comes on. And Ive run 20000 miles on and it still looks clear on the dip stick. I down to changing it every 8 to 10 months. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Mobile1 5000 miles or 6 months... I'm not sure Mobile 1 has to be changed. My truck will go 15000 miles on it before the change oil message even comes on. And Ive run 20000 miles on and it still looks clear on the dip stick. I down to changing it every 8 to 10 months. Mobil 1 still needs to be changed. Your truck or the Oil Life Monitor does not know what oil you are using. It does not actually monitor the condition of your engine oil. It is a software program that suggests you change your oil based on, in short, how you drive and in what conditions. I doubt that your OLM is allowing for 15K oil change intervals. If you have 20k on your oil and it still looks "clear on the dipstick" you oil is not cleaning your engine, period. If ya love her lube her! |
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Quoted: (my vehicle is a 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4.0L V6) I've been running Royal Purple 5W-30 synthetic oil and Bosch "Distance Plus" filters since I got the truck new. I change the oil every ~4000 miles (when the light comes on). Last night at Pep Boys when I plunked down like 60+ bucks for oil and filter I was like God dang, this is *ridiculously* expensive for a do-it-yourself oil change. It actually would have been more if I didn't already have a quart or two of oil left from the last change. So I started to wonder if I can go longer between changes with such a high end oil and filter. Maybe as high as 10,000 miles? The way I figure, if I'm not going to extend the life out of the oil and filter, what is the point in using such high dollar stuff in the first place, what am I really getting out of it? Commends/thoughts welcome! I also wonder if Pep Boys is really the right place to be buying that stuff, but nonetheless, it's extremely expensive for what it is. View Quote |
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Valvoline semi-synthetic oil and Purolator PureOne filter get changed every 5000 miles; and tires get rotated, too. |
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[#33]
By the way.
Go to your local oil distributor and buy oil by the bucket. Will be a ton cheaper then in quarts. A bucket of full synthetic - 5 gallons - will cost about the same as 5 quarts. |
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After winter and right as winter starts.
Will add another oil change if it is really dusty in summer. |
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I think I am going to change to M1 5W-30 extended next time. RP is just too damn pricey. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It blows me away what people spend on Royal Purple when M1 0W-40 is about $25/5 quarts at Walmart. And it is unlikely that M1 0W-40 will be "too thick" for whatever you drive. I think I am going to change to M1 5W-30 extended next time. RP is just too damn pricey. Plenty of other good ones out there. A Fram Ultra, Purolator PureONE, or NAPA Gold filter will work well too. More often than not, the oil "deals" at the parts chains suck. Wal-mart pricing is typically better. And if you are a M1 fan, consider their high mileage oils. They are well-regarded over at BITOG, perhaps more than the regular M1 oils. |
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lol. You detect it running rougher from degraded oil? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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4k-5k miles. Any longer and and the engine runs noticibly more rough. That's also when the oil starts to appear dirty so changing it seems like a good idea. lol. You detect it running rougher from degraded oil? Yea so how exactly does this "detection" work? |
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I ran Mobil1 in a 1997 2.0 golf, starting the synthetic @100,000 miles. Changed it every 10k with a Purolator Pure one filter. The cylinders had basically no wear at 300k miles.
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[#47]
Change the oil every 5000, rotate the tires every 10000. It's easy to remember.
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[#48]
For my daily driver, every 5K, and Pennzoil Ultra is my current favorite flavor. I redline at least a few times every week.
As someone else posted here, if this thread gets you excited, go to "Bobistheoilguy.com" and lose yourself in the tens of thousands of pages of learned discussion on all things oil. |
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