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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:57:41 PM EDT
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Ukraine has been Russian-controlled for centuries. Russia has as much right to ensure Ukraine doesn't become host to hostile foreign powers as the United States would if Texas declared independence and tried to join a Chinese military alliance. Washington would not permit that shit, but we seem to think that we can operate under our own set of rules. Ukraine isn't worth a single drop of American blood, and the fantasies about WWIII with Russia over it are just insane. You're not the first to use that fallacious analogy. Let's hope you're the last though. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:57:58 PM EDT
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Russia has as much right to ensure Ukraine doesn't become host to hostile foreign powers as the United States would if Texas declared independence and tried to join a Chinese military alliance. Washington would not permit that shit, but we seem to think that we can operate under our own set of rules. Big difference is, the US hasn't made a habit of systematically murdering/killing millions of Texans in the past...which is the reason a lot of countries are sympathetic to the Ukrainians. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:58:14 PM EDT
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I suspect he is just flexing his muscles. There is the 1% chance that he makes a move, and the situation is that of a very dangerous game, so I cannot say for sure, but my instinct tells me that this is just a threat.
In other news.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1596819_Marines_to_train_with_equipment_stored_underground_in_Arctic.html (I hope they have about 10x more equipment in those caves) |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:58:25 PM EDT
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Ukraine isn't worth a single drop of American blood, and the fantasies about WWIII with Russia over it are just insane. Nope but it is a good excuse to weaken Russia. The US through the Polish, Hungarians, and Romanians supply the Ukraine with support and watch the Russians win a costly victory. |
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Posted: 2/26/2014 11:59:41 PM EDT
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Big difference is, the US hasn't made a habit of systematically murdering/killing millions of Texans in the past...which is the reason a lot of countries are sympathetic to the Ukrainians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Russia has as much right to ensure Ukraine doesn't become host to hostile foreign powers as the United States would if Texas declared independence and tried to join a Chinese military alliance. Washington would not permit that shit, but we seem to think that we can operate under our own set of rules. Big difference is, the US hasn't made a habit of systematically murdering/killing millions of Texans in the past...which is the reason a lot of countries are sympathetic to the Ukrainians. The most important difference is that unlike Texas, Ukraine is a sovereign and independent nation. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:00:13 AM EDT
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I suspect he is just flexing his muscles. There is the 1% chance that he makes a move, and the situation is that of a very dangerous game, so I cannot say for sure, but my instinct tells me that this is just a threat. In other news.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1596819_Marines_to_train_with_equipment_stored_underground_in_Arctic.html (I hope they have about 10x more equipment in those caves) I think without a doubt he is going in. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:01:34 AM EDT
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Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. This post gave me wood. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:01:53 AM EDT
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The most important difference is that unlike Texas, Ukraine is a sovereign and independent nation. Depends on which Texan you ask. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:05:31 AM EDT
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I suspect he is just flexing his muscles. There is the 1% chance that he makes a move, and the situation is that of a very dangerous game, so I cannot say for sure, but my instinct tells me that this is just a threat. In other news.....http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1596819_Marines_to_train_with_equipment_stored_underground_in_Arctic.html (I hope they have about 10x more equipment in those caves) He doesn't need to flex, he knows Obama is a pussy. He's going for it. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:10:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of our business. 0 should stay out. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:18:59 AM EDT
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This post gave me wood. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. This post gave me wood. That's all fine and dandy if the opponent you are fighting on basically their turf does not have an arsenal of ICBM's and submarines that can launch their payloads of dirty annies directly on North American targets in a matter of minutes..... |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:24:25 AM EDT
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That's all fine and dandy if the opponent you are fighting on basically their turf does not have an arsenal of ICBM's and submarines that can launch their payloads of dirty annies directly on North American targets in a matter of minutes..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. This post gave me wood. That's all fine and dandy if the opponent you are fighting on basically their turf does not have an arsenal of ICBM's and submarines that can launch their payloads of dirty annies directly on North American targets in a matter of minutes..... There's the reality of it. Sylvan has said before that the only thing worse than losing a conventional fight with a nuclear power, is winning that fight. So... any overt support of Ukraine that directly opposes Russian interests, well, we might as well spin up the missiles and get this going. But no, Russian can't even come close to matching us conventionally. They don't have to. They have nukes. For now they're content to be bullies in their sandbox, but they will eventually get put in their place. Maybe China will make a play for Siberia soon... Another big reason we ought to crowd them out of the Pacific. It would force them to look north, at Russia, thus potentially weakening both. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:33:37 AM EDT
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another ww3 thread. lol
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Posted: 2/27/2014 12:42:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: another ww3 thread. lol  |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:03:17 AM EDT
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another ww3 thread. lol Meh, getting slightly more plausible. Putin looks to be foing for it, Polaks and Czechs are ready to provide material assistance to Ukraine. How long until Putin decides Obama is such a pussy he can get away with bombing a NATO country? |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:05:30 AM EDT
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Russian can't afford to lose Ukraine that's for sure, Olympics is a good cover
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:09:07 AM EDT
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Is this going to be the official Ukrainian military intervention thread?
Anyway it may have begun: Armed men seize gov't building, parliament in Ukraine's Crimea It quoted a local Tatar leader, Refat Chubarov, as saying on Facebook: "I have been told that the buildings of parliament and the council of ministers have been occupied by armed men in uniforms that do not bear any recognisable insignia."
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:11:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:13:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's the reality of it. Sylvan has said before that the only thing worse than losing a conventional fight with a nuclear power, is winning that fight. So... any overt support of Ukraine that directly opposes Russian interests, well, we might as well spin up the missiles and get this going. But no, Russian can't even come close to matching us conventionally. They don't have to. They have nukes. For now they're content to be bullies in their sandbox, but they will eventually get put in their place. Maybe China will make a play for Siberia soon... Another big reason we ought to crowd them out of the Pacific. It would force them to look north, at Russia, thus potentially weakening both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. This post gave me wood. That's all fine and dandy if the opponent you are fighting on basically their turf does not have an arsenal of ICBM's and submarines that can launch their payloads of dirty annies directly on North American targets in a matter of minutes..... There's the reality of it. Sylvan has said before that the only thing worse than losing a conventional fight with a nuclear power, is winning that fight. So... any overt support of Ukraine that directly opposes Russian interests, well, we might as well spin up the missiles and get this going. But no, Russian can't even come close to matching us conventionally. They don't have to. They have nukes. For now they're content to be bullies in their sandbox, but they will eventually get put in their place. Maybe China will make a play for Siberia soon... Another big reason we ought to crowd them out of the Pacific. It would force them to look north, at Russia, thus potentially weakening both. No ones pulling out any nukes anytime soon - that's a pipe dream. Despite the animosity on both sides, even if we fought them toe to toe in Ukraine over this (also not happening), neither side is going to pull out the nukes. It's certain death for both sides. There's no point to starting something that means your definite demise... both sides know that on the nuclear option. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:28:45 AM EDT
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Well.... seeing as Special Ops is a force multiplier... the number doesn't mean shit. Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't wait to see elite Russian troops in their tactical Adidas track pants and sneakers. Well.... seeing as Special Ops is a force multiplier... the number doesn't mean shit. Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. I wish I had your confidence, but the fact is that we haven't gone up against a peer or near-peer enemy since, what, Korea, Vietnam? Iraq, even in the first Gulf War was a paper tiger, Saddam's army was a bunch of ignorant cowards with no air force to speak of. The Russians have gen 4 fighters, a hell of a lot of ADA and still have enough troops to overwhelm us. I do think the US military is still top dog in the world but our military is small and has been getting cut smaller and smaller for decades. We have the quality, but in a stand up ground war I'm not sure we have the numbers to beat them. We were stretched too thin just fighting insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, what happens when we get in a major ground war where we may lose whole companies in a few days or even hours? The Russians can just keep feeding conscripts into the meat grinder, can we keep up? |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:28:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well.... seeing as Special Ops is a force multiplier... the number doesn't mean shit. Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. Drones and fighters controlling the skies, these aren't goat fuckers, they have an Air Force. Cruise missiles, yup, they've got them too. (with canned sunshine, just in case) Stealth Bombers are not invisible, the B-2 is good and expensive, and can be shot down. The last conventional war the US has fought was Korea, and that ended in a stalemate. Do Not Underestimate Your Enemy. These aren't some whiney bitch ass ragheads, wars in Europe tend to get bloody. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:29:48 AM EDT
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I <3 Russia.
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:30:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I <3 Russia.  |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:31:49 AM EDT
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Meh, getting slightly more plausible. Putin looks to be foing for it, Polaks and Czechs are ready to provide material assistance to Ukraine. How long until Putin decides Obama is such a pussy he can get away with bombing a NATO country? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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another ww3 thread. lol Meh, getting slightly more plausible. Putin looks to be foing for it, Polaks and Czechs are ready to provide material assistance to Ukraine. How long until Putin decides Obama is such a pussy he can get away with bombing a NATO country? Theres a HUGE difference between a little eastern bloc revolution between cousins, and nuclear war between superpowers. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:31:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:32:28 AM EDT
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:36:15 AM EDT
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Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:36:27 AM EDT
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"No ones pulling out any nukes anytime soon - that's a pipe dream.
Despite the animosity on both sides, even if we fought them toe to toe in Ukraine over this (also not happening), neither side is going to pull out the nukes. It's certain death for both sides. There's no point to starting something that means your definite demise... both sides know that on the nuclear option" To avoid the quote tree you have a plausible point. It all depends on which side views which is the weaker to begin with. Putin is obviously feeling bolstered because he thinks Obama is weak sauce and he can walk all over him. But who is really on the chicken switch ? By the time the US administration got their shit together to offer up a response to a nuclear attack, the Russians would have already played the 'check mate' game because they do not believe in drawn out diplomatic solutions when they know they have the upper hand. Plus the 'Soviet' idea of acceptable losses is far different than those in the Western World. Putin want's to bring back the USSR and he considers the present .gov of opposition to be weak and confused and he is posturing to take advantage of that. Obama OTOH is hard to figure out. He is a die hard liberal BUT I think he gets off on wielding power and placing his military in harms way to make him look tough. Until it backfires on him. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:40:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I <3 Russia. Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. I've got nothing as to how incredibly stupid of a statement that was
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:42:06 AM EDT
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Theres a HUGE difference between a little eastern bloc revolution between cousins, and nuclear war between superpowers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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another ww3 thread. lol Meh, getting slightly more plausible. Putin looks to be foing for it, Polaks and Czechs are ready to provide material assistance to Ukraine. How long until Putin decides Obama is such a pussy he can get away with bombing a NATO country? Theres a HUGE difference between a little eastern bloc revolution between cousins, and nuclear war between superpowers. Well, yeah but, Europe is always a treaty/alliance trap. It still doesn't take long for things to escalate once the Polish cavalry has been engaged. It'd be nice if everyone could keep the sunshine in the can. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:44:26 AM EDT
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Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Hey, did you know Vlad murdered his closest and dearest friend and mentor shortly after taking office? Yep, dead of a heart attack, along with two aides (also heart attacks), a few months after Vlad invited him back from political exile. Obama is many things, but he's a fucking saint compared to the monster in Moscow. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:45:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I <3 Russia. Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. You're free to move
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:45:36 AM EDT
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I wish I had your confidence, but the fact is that we haven't gone up against a peer or near-peer enemy since, what, Korea, Vietnam? Iraq, even in the first Gulf War was a paper tiger, Saddam's army was a bunch of ignorant cowards with no air force to speak of. The Russians have gen 4 fighters, a hell of a lot of ADA and still have enough troops to overwhelm us. I do think the US military is still top dog in the world but our military is small and has been getting cut smaller and smaller for decades. We have the quality, but in a stand up ground war I'm not sure we have the numbers to beat them. We were stretched too thin just fighting insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, what happens when we get in a major ground war where we may lose whole companies in a few days or even hours? The Russians can just keep feeding conscripts into the meat grinder, can we keep up? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I can't wait to see elite Russian troops in their tactical Adidas track pants and sneakers. Well.... seeing as Special Ops is a force multiplier... the number doesn't mean shit. Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. I wish I had your confidence, but the fact is that we haven't gone up against a peer or near-peer enemy since, what, Korea, Vietnam? Iraq, even in the first Gulf War was a paper tiger, Saddam's army was a bunch of ignorant cowards with no air force to speak of. The Russians have gen 4 fighters, a hell of a lot of ADA and still have enough troops to overwhelm us. I do think the US military is still top dog in the world but our military is small and has been getting cut smaller and smaller for decades. We have the quality, but in a stand up ground war I'm not sure we have the numbers to beat them. We were stretched too thin just fighting insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan, what happens when we get in a major ground war where we may lose whole companies in a few days or even hours? The Russians can just keep feeding conscripts into the meat grinder, can we keep up? |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:51:17 AM EDT
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. You're free to move Teehee 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:52:06 AM EDT
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Hey, did you know Vlad murdered his closest and dearest friend and mentor shortly after taking office? Yep, dead of a heart attack, along with two aides (also heart attacks), a few months after Vlad invited him back from political exile. Obama is many things, but he's a fucking saint compared to the monster in Moscow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Hey, did you know Vlad murdered his closest and dearest friend and mentor shortly after taking office? Yep, dead of a heart attack, along with two aides (also heart attacks), a few months after Vlad invited him back from political exile. Obama is many things, but he's a fucking saint compared to the monster in Moscow. Heart disease is a bitch and no laughing matter. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:53:46 AM EDT
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AIN'T AMERICA'S PROBLEM.
WHO GIVES A FUCK. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:54:52 AM EDT
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"No ones pulling out any nukes anytime soon - that's a pipe dream. Despite the animosity on both sides, even if we fought them toe to toe in Ukraine over this (also not happening), neither side is going to pull out the nukes. It's certain death for both sides. There's no point to starting something that means your definite demise... both sides know that on the nuclear option" To avoid the quote tree you have a plausible point. It all depends on which side views which is the weaker to begin with. Putin is obviously feeling bolstered because he thinks Obama is weak sauce and he can walk all over him. But who is really on the chicken switch ? By the time the US administration got their shit together to offer up a response to a nuclear attack, the Russians would have already played the 'check mate' game because they do not believe in drawn out diplomatic solutions when they know they have the upper hand. Plus the 'Soviet' idea of acceptable losses is far different than those in the Western World. Putin want's to bring back the USSR and he considers the present .gov of opposition to be weak and confused and he is posturing to take advantage of that. Obama OTOH is hard to figure out. He is a die hard liberal BUT I think he gets off on wielding power and placing his military in harms way to make him look tough. Until it backfires on him. There military is nowhere near soviet size. They simply can't play those kind of numbers games. Not only would it ruin them militarily but economically. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:55:03 AM EDT
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AIN'T AMERICA'S PROBLEM. WHO GIVES A FUCK. +87 |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:56:01 AM EDT
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Do you mind very much if the note next to your name on my ignore list just says "poleznye" or would you prefer something more colorful. Or specific. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:59:28 AM EDT
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I <3 Russia.
Seriously. We're fast becoming the new Evil Empire and Russia a force for good. FBO. Hey, did you know Vlad murdered his closest and dearest friend and mentor shortly after taking office? Yep, dead of a heart attack, along with two aides (also heart attacks), a few months after Vlad invited him back from political exile. Obama is many things, but he's a fucking saint compared to the monster in Moscow. Heart disease is a bitch and no laughing matter. Didn't many of Obama's "aquaintences" die from lead poisoning shortly before he took office? |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 1:59:59 AM EDT
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Do you mind very much if the note next to your name on my ignore list just says "poleznye" or would you prefer something more colorful. Or specific. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:03:54 AM EDT
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You paint quite the rosie picture, and make an awful lot of assumptions. Drones and fighters controlling the skies, these aren't goat fuckers, they have an Air Force. Cruise missiles, yup, they've got them too. (with canned sunshine, just in case) Stealth Bombers are not invisible, the B-2 is good and expensive, and can be shot down. The last conventional war the US has fought was Korea, and that ended in a stalemate. Do Not Underestimate Your Enemy. These aren't some whiney bitch ass ragheads, wars in Europe tend to get bloody. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well.... seeing as Special Ops is a force multiplier... the number doesn't mean shit. Six divisions? Cool. Won't mean shit once drones and fighter aircraft control the skies, cruise missiles and stealth bombers strike your logistical support, JTACs coordinate attacks on your mobile forces, CCTs and Rangers setup airfields to bring in more supplies, Seabees establish forward bases, SEALs go after your leaders behind the lines, Special Forces train up local forces who know the land, etc. etc. The US Military is nothing to be fucked with when its in full swing. No other force on this earth can match it, not even the mainly conscript Russian Armed Forces. They're a fucking joke to what our military can do. Do you need to be reminded on how we initially took Iraq? Twice? The coordination we have when dealing death is amazing. Drones and fighters controlling the skies, these aren't goat fuckers, they have an Air Force. Cruise missiles, yup, they've got them too. (with canned sunshine, just in case) Stealth Bombers are not invisible, the B-2 is good and expensive, and can be shot down. The last conventional war the US has fought was Korea, and that ended in a stalemate. Do Not Underestimate Your Enemy. These aren't some whiney bitch ass ragheads, wars in Europe tend to get bloody. Capabilities mean nothing if they can't deploy and and sustain them. Lets throw away the fact that Russian advanced capabilities are few and far between. The fact remains that we could take a fight to them and sustain a war on their soil and they can barely sustain combat actions with countries literally next door. I think you overestimate Russia's professional military capabilities. Their NCO corp. is still needing some major overhauls and their officer corp. is incredibly corrupt. They still field a large army of what are more or less conscripts. Any war that we have ever fought to a stalemate was not because of the military, the US was marching the Koreans back to the Chinese border when politics intervened. The only thing they have is nukes and once it goes that direction it's game over for everyone involved but on a conventional scale the Russians simply don't come close to the US in projecting conventional forces. |
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AIN'T AMERICA'S PROBLEM. WHO GIVES A FUCK. +87 Actually it is, since the same thing is going on here. The original protest in Ukraine was in regards to a corrupt government. May your chains.... |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:08:06 AM EDT
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Didn't they already do this shit in Georgia circa 08? We wont do shit. We didn't do shit then, we didn't do shit in Syria we wont do shit now. Not my fucking problem. Hell they did this shit in Czechoslovakia back in what? 68? Why ruin a tradition. And they say that the Soviet Union is dead. Many folks here fight over who gets to suck Putin's penis. No, we appreciate a strong leader and we are jealous that Russia gets a strong leader while we have a cock sucking faggot. However, he is a ruthless, anti-America, KGB, corrupt, pretty much dictator and we would cheer his death. You can admire certain qualities in a person while hating them. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:08:32 AM EDT
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AIN'T AMERICA'S PROBLEM. WHO GIVES A FUCK. +87 Actually it is, since the same thing is going on here. The original protest in Ukraine was in regards to a corrupt government. May your chains.... Bullshittery and asshattery. The same Democratic Cursade mentality that cost us billions in Iraq and helps our enemies in Syria, Egypt, and Libya. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" sounds nice but it's utopian nonsense. Let them sort themselves out. We have absolutely no reason to get involved. |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:10:17 AM EDT
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No, we appreciate a strong leader and we are jealous that Russia gets a strong leader while we have a cock sucking faggot. No shit. 
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:11:01 AM EDT
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We should worry about ourselves. The current admin is gonna let this shit happen because 10 threads about Russia and Putin are better then 10 about our massive debt, shit economy, unaffordable millitary and entitlements. Watch the other hand.
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:14:04 AM EDT
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Bullshittery and asshattery. The same Democratic Cursade mentality that cost us billions in Iraq and helps our enemies in Syria, Egypt, and Libya. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" sounds nice but it's utopian nonsense. Let them sort themselves out. We have absolutely no reason to get involved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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AIN'T AMERICA'S PROBLEM. WHO GIVES A FUCK. +87 Actually it is, since the same thing is going on here. The original protest in Ukraine was in regards to a corrupt government. May your chains.... Bullshittery and asshattery. The same Democratic Cursade mentality that cost us billions in Iraq and helps our enemies in Syria, Egypt, and Libya. "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" sounds nice but it's utopian nonsense. Let them sort themselves out. We have absolutely no reason to get involved. Maybe you're Iranian... |
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Posted: 2/27/2014 2:14:54 AM EDT
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Are the Germans deploying into Polen?
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