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Posted: 5/11/2015 2:59:20 AM EDT
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Pretty interesting Asov propagandadocumentary. Lot of new gear.
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Posted: 5/16/2015 11:25:38 AM EDT
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I don't know if this has already been posted or not, but this is one of the best presentations I've ever seen about the methods of fighting Russia is using in Ukraine.
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Posted: 5/16/2015 12:35:20 PM EDT
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I don't know if this has already been posted or not, but this is one of the best presentations I've ever seen about the methods of fighting Russia is using in Ukraine.  http://youtu.be/8WA1rP5WGfYExcellent link, thanks. 
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Posted: 5/16/2015 7:20:12 PM EDT
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http://www.jpost.com/International/Putin-says-Ukraine-being-overrun-by-fascists-and-he-may-be-right-403205
Rada honoring groups that participated in the holocaust and murdering 100k polish citizens |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 6:39:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2015 7:31:55 PM EDT
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Looks like two Spetznatz were captured by the UA near Luhansk.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32776198 |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 9:28:30 AM EDT
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FSA. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 10:19:03 AM EDT
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Direct links to Russian State Propaganda, again? Oh, you!
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Posted: 5/21/2015 11:03:13 AM EDT
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Direct links to Russian State Propaganda, again? Oh, you! I'm sorry, that was insensitive of me. Here is a better link from an approved source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-votes-for-moratorium-on-foreign-debt-payments-1432043719 |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 11:20:52 AM EDT
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Putin is laughing while the rest of the world sits by and watches the former Soviet Union rise from the ashes.
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Posted: 5/21/2015 12:47:09 PM EDT
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I'm sorry, that was insensitive of me. Here is a better link from an approved source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-votes-for-moratorium-on-foreign-debt-payments-1432043719 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Direct links to Russian State Propaganda, again? Oh, you! I'm sorry, that was insensitive of me. Here is a better link from an approved source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-votes-for-moratorium-on-foreign-debt-payments-1432043719 It's not insensitive of you, it is indicative of you. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 1:36:38 AM EDT
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Julian Röpcke ?@JulianRoepcke 8h8 hours ago
The Ukrainian line of defense in #Shyrokyne takes heavy Russian hits ETA: Love the pic in the lower right 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:29:31 AM EDT
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Might as well post this
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/24/europe/ukraine-separatist-commander-killed/ shortly after this: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/13/world/europe/vladimir-putin-john-kerry-russia-sochi-ukraine-syria.html Mozgovoi was an outspoken critic of Moscow |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 1:17:07 AM EDT
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The Russian military must be like some kind of summer camp where soldiers can go anywhere or take leave at their own will.
In some cases where Russian citizens have been captured in Ukraine by forces loyal to Kiev, Russian officials have said they were there of their own accord and were either on leave from the armed forces or had quit the military. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/27/us-ukraine-crisis-russia-military-idUSKBN0OC2K820150527?utm_source=Facebook |
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Posted: 5/28/2015 11:57:54 AM EDT
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Saw a report yesterday @ 150 billion left Russia in last year. not sure of currency, but possibly equal to new defense expenditures. Currency crunch time soon?
Also saw today report on supertanker charters new high, loading crude, increased pumpings from Iraq, and note that OPEC is pumping to help maintain surplus. Bad news to Iran, Venezuela, and Russia. Maintaining oil at $60 and lower perhaps the goal, possible $60 is about breakeven figure for the US shale oil work.? If so, we'll have a longer term reserve, already drilled. |
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Posted: 5/31/2015 11:52:54 PM EDT
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So, Summer it is?
The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin’s drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirms what the U.S. fears most: A summer offensive is inevitable. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 6:02:23 PM EDT
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So, Summer it is? http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
So, Summer it is? The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin’s drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirms what the U.S. fears most: A summer offensive is inevitable. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html
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Posted: 6/1/2015 6:11:04 PM EDT
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Julian Röpcke ?@JulianRoepcke 25m25 minutes ago
#BreakingFootage @AlJazeera filmed the #RussianArmy moving towards the Ukrainian border.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 6:25:08 PM EDT
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Saw a report yesterday @ 150 billion left Russia in last year. not sure of currency, but possibly equal to new defense expenditures. Currency crunch time soon? Also saw today report on supertanker charters new high, loading crude, increased pumpings from Iraq, and note that OPEC is pumping to help maintain surplus. Bad news to Iran, Venezuela, and Russia. Maintaining oil at $60 and lower perhaps the goal, possible $60 is about breakeven figure for the US shale oil work.? If so, we'll have a longer term reserve, already drilled. $70ish in many areas of TX, iirc |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 7:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He said "icy wot ewe dead their?" It's a phrase native to Dindu Oblast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Hopefully this stupid Texan is dead by now or shortly will be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hOI4ib6dy2M Maybe he wanted to experience OC-ing handguns?  Ya vizhu shto vy delali tamo! Moy chteniya Russki ne khorosho. (I seriously have no idea what you said)  He said "icy wot ewe dead their?" It's a phrase native to Dindu Oblast. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:36:34 PM EDT
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So, Summer it is? The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin’s drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirms what the U.S. fears most: A summer offensive is inevitable. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKsWMJCuR4g
Meh... they should hire Jeepers driving mud-crawling rigs.
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Posted: 6/1/2015 10:46:27 PM EDT
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Meh... they should hire Jeepers driving mud-crawling rigs.
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So, Summer it is? The war in Ukraine may have faded largely from international headlines, but Vladimir Putin’s drip-drip invasion continues. In the last two weeks, forensic evidence, some of which has been reported by monitor organizations and senior Western diplomats, the rest corroborated by eyewitness photography and video, only confirms what the U.S. fears most: A summer offensive is inevitable. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/17/new-putin-invasion-coming-this-summer.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKsWMJCuR4g
Meh... they should hire Jeepers driving mud-crawling rigs.
Get the guy from the other thread with the brotruck |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:38:50 AM EDT
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility.
... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:44:15 AM EDT
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook Quote HistoryQuoted:
Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. ... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:58:30 AM EDT
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One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. ... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 10:05:40 AM EDT
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Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. ... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. Nah. It's Russia's fault. They shot down a civilian airliner, killing all on board. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 10:30:04 AM EDT
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http://www.whathappenedtoflightmh17.com/a-detailed-description-of-the-buk-sa-11-which-could-have-shot-down-mh17/
BUK video referenced in link, starts around 4:18-6:30 |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 11:07:17 AM EDT
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Michael Weiss ?@michaeldweiss 2h2 hours ago
Summer is coming. 
Agence France-PresseVerified account ?@AFP #BREAKING Ukrainian army accuses rebels of launching 'large-scale offensive' 
Close call!!
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Posted: 6/3/2015 1:16:26 PM EDT
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Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. Bellingcat has claimed that Russia's satellite photos showing Ukrainian BUK's in the area were faked and their report is being picked up by western media. http://www.cnbc.com/id/102722032 However, real forensic analysts have been pretty critical of their methods, including the programmer who wrote the photo analysis program they used. Conclusions from one analyst from Australia: http://7mei.nl/2015/06/01/about-bellingcats-claim-russian-sat-pics-fake/ Redux
In conclusion I reiterate the main issues – Bellingcat ‘investigators’ are unqualified – Their use of Error Level Analysis is incompetent – Their reliance on dubious imagery dating is incompetent – They have no idea about publication processes for digital documents – They make totally unjustified guesses at ‘probabilities’ and present them as fact – Their conclusions are unsound. I say again about the purpose of this document. It’s not about proving or disproving or rebutting anything. It’s about showing how Bellingcat is fundamentally incompetent at best and quite possibly malevolent at worst. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 1:21:31 PM EDT
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And our old friend from Georgia is back in the news. Mikheil Saakashvili was given Ukrainian citizenship and was appointed Governor of Odessa region.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/30/europe/ukraine-mikheil-saakashvili-governor/ |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 4:10:06 PM EDT
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And our old friend from Georgia is back in the news. Mikheil Saakashvili was given Ukrainian citizenship and was appointed Governor of Odessa region. http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/30/europe/ukraine-mikheil-saakashvili-governor/ Read that the other day. That's a real WTF; is corruption so bad there that they are turning to Georgians to help out? |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 4:58:04 PM EDT
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook Quote HistoryQuoted:
Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. ... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook That's funny. The first detailed analysis of the Malaysian Airlines flight shoot down from Russian aerospace engineers said that the evidence indicated an air-to-air attack, they suspected from a Ukrainian Su-25 attack plane in order to conceal what happened, and set up as a false flag implicating Russia. Things in Russia must be really bad. They can't even run a good disinformation campaign anymore, and they were awesome at this in the Cold War. How low can you go? |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 6:15:31 PM EDT
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The world remains asleep at the wheel as this crisis once again experiences a new escalation. Why the hell isn't this a bigger news story? You flip on the national news and all you see are stories about Bruce Jenner's transformation or whether American Pariah will win the Triple Crown. Mixed in here and there is the announcement that some washed-up, has been, never was is announcing their candidacy for president. All the while an escalating crisis continues to deepen in eastern Europe as the Russians show no signs that they are yet anywhere near finished with what they've started. This situation could potentially get out of control with just one minor miscalculation.
Is the world really so caught up in so much insignificant bullshit that the Ukraine Crisis is simply a back page item of interest? Or is the world simply not ready to deal with the potential ramifications here and prefer to pretend this isn't happening in hopes that it will just somehow go away? This is some really serious shit that's going on and I can't believe it is just being ignored by most of the country, even most of the world. Unreal. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 8:38:40 PM EDT
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The world remains asleep at the wheel as this crisis once again experiences a new escalation. Why the hell isn't this a bigger news story? You flip on the national news and all you see are stories about Bruce Jenner's transformation or whether American Pariah will win the Triple Crown. Mixed in here and there is the announcement that some washed-up, has been, never was is announcing their candidacy for president. All the while an escalating crisis continues to deepen in eastern Europe as the Russians show no signs that they are yet anywhere near finished with what they've started. This situation could potentially get out of control with just one minor miscalculation. Is the world really so caught up in so much insignificant bullshit that the Ukraine Crisis is simply a back page item of interest? Or is the world simply not ready to deal with the potential ramifications here and prefer to pretend this isn't happening in hopes that it will just somehow go away? This is some really serious shit that's going on and I can't believe it is just being ignored by most of the country, even most of the world. Unreal. Unfortunately that's how the media plays the weak-minded people. They pay attention to the carrot the media waves in front of them at the time. Show a different carrot and they immediately forget the previous one. And the issue is not just Ukraine. The world is a powder keg with several fuses: Ukraine, South China Sea, ISIS and others that are used as distractions, until they get really out of control. We have serious issues even here at home. History tells the rest. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 8:50:13 PM EDT
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Another development on that civilian airplane that was show down. Of course, the vendor may be trying to protect its main customer and is also some pressure to do so. However, they raise some interesting points and considering how reckless both sides are that's not a far fetched possibility. ... The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Shrapnel holes in the plane were consistent with that kind of missile and warhead, it said. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers, it said, adding that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. "Neither the company nor its enterprises could have supplied these rockets in the 21st century," Almaz-Antey's chief executive, Yan Novikov, told a news conference run by the Kremlin press service at which the company used 3D visuals and computer animation ... http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/02/us-ukraine-crisis-mh17-russia-idUSKBN0OI1S620150602?utm_source=Facebook One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. Indeed. That's expected. However, so far I haven't seen anything conclusively pointing to one side or another. Could have been both. Folks "guaranteeing" that was one side or another are probably from that same crowd that "guarantees" where the other Malaysian Airlines airplane is using those "ping arches" and other bs. Unfortunately in this case many innocent people died because of reckless behavior from many sides, including who decided to let that airplane fly on a war zone, incompetents operating sophisticated weapons and unscrupulous politicians. Nah. It's Russia's fault. They shot down a civilian airliner, killing all on board. The Russian puppets bragging about shooting down a plane in that exact spot at that exact time is kind of a big fucking smoking gun. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:15:41 PM EDT
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Looks like the summer offensive has begun in Marinka and Avdeevka.
Looks like some T-72s were used by the separatists in Marinka http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7Hs |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:19:56 PM EDT
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One of Russia's defense companies is backing up Putin's claims? I am shocked. Shocked I say. Why of such doubting findings of scienticity? |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 9:24:09 PM EDT
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Looks like the summer offensive has begun in Marinka and Avdeevka. Looks like some T-72s were used by the separatists in Marinka http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7Hs
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Posted: 6/3/2015 10:18:41 PM EDT
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Looks like the summer offensive has begun in Marinka and Avdeevka. Looks like some T-72s were used by the separatists in Marinka http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7Hs http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7HsEnough of this shit. The "kinder, gentler, less provocative" measures we've been trying for well over a year are clearly not working. It is time we do something else. With news of this latest offensive breaking today, the response I'd like to see from the White House is a statement being issued detailing the transfer of a significant number of Javelin and TOW2 systems to the Ukrainian Army effectively immediately. Moreover, I'd make it crystal clear to the Russians that going forward, every single piece of combat equipment they bring into this fight will be met by the delivery of a US made system designed to kill it. That is IMO the best way forward for dealing with this crisis. You want to stop the Russian advance? Make them bleed at a rate they are unwilling to sustain. When large numbers of Russian troops start coming home in coffins for what is largely viewed as a dubious cause, civil unrest within Russia will become intolerable. |
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Posted: 6/3/2015 11:24:42 PM EDT
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The world remains asleep at the wheel as this crisis once again experiences a new escalation. Why the hell isn't this a bigger news story? You flip on the national news and all you see are stories about Bruce Jenner's transformation or whether American Pariah will win the Triple Crown. Mixed in here and there is the announcement that some washed-up, has been, never was is announcing their candidacy for president. All the while an escalating crisis continues to deepen in eastern Europe as the Russians show no signs that they are yet anywhere near finished with what they've started. This situation could potentially get out of control with just one minor miscalculation. Is the world really so caught up in so much insignificant bullshit that the Ukraine Crisis is simply a back page item of interest? Or is the world simply not ready to deal with the potential ramifications here and prefer to pretend this isn't happening in hopes that it will just somehow go away? This is some really serious shit that's going on and I can't believe it is just being ignored by most of the country, even most of the world. Unreal. I wouldn't be surprised if it came out the Obama administration was pressuring the media not to run stories about this stuff because it shows Obama for what he is. |
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Posted: 6/4/2015 10:50:42 AM EDT
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Conflict News ?@rConflictNews 10m10 minutes ago
VIDEO: Amazing footage of incoming shelling in #Marinka #Ukraine yesterday morning. Link, couldn't get to enbed |
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Posted: 6/4/2015 10:57:45 AM EDT
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The world remains asleep at the wheel as this crisis once again experiences a new escalation. Why the hell isn't this a bigger news story? You flip on the national news and all you see are stories about Bruce Jenner's transformation or whether American Pariah will win the Triple Crown. Mixed in here and there is the announcement that some washed-up, has been, never was is announcing their candidacy for president. All the while an escalating crisis continues to deepen in eastern Europe as the Russians show no signs that they are yet anywhere near finished with what they've started. This situation could potentially get out of control with just one minor miscalculation. Is the world really so caught up in so much insignificant bullshit that the Ukraine Crisis is simply a back page item of interest? Or is the world simply not ready to deal with the potential ramifications here and prefer to pretend this isn't happening in hopes that it will just somehow go away? This is some really serious shit that's going on and I can't believe it is just being ignored by most of the country, even most of the world. Unreal. It's all part of the plan comrade. It's not a crisis till the people managing it say it is. |
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Posted: 6/4/2015 3:28:09 PM EDT
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We see the FBHO administration at work with ISIS and Iran; I'd think some of you would be more happy that he isn't turning his reverse-Midas touch to Ukraine.
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Posted: 6/5/2015 12:06:46 AM EDT
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We see the FBHO administration at work with ISIS and Iran; I'd think some of you would be more happy that he isn't turning his reverse-Midas touch to Ukraine. Maybe it is putting its "touch" over there, hence the complete screw-up.. Started with distributing candies during the Euro Maidan protests? |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 3:51:03 PM EDT
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Any independent confirmation that Ukraine has moved >= 122mm howitzers forward and are now shelling Donetsk again?
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Posted: 6/5/2015 3:54:35 PM EDT
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Hmmmmm.
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/04/412046928/russian-trolls-spread-false-information-on-the-internet .......Yeah. It seems like a pretty normal office. And I talked to one woman who worked from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., and she had a quota of posts that she was supposed to put up. She would get a list of opinions, basically, that she was supposed to post under the guise of these different personas that she ran. Like, dealing with the war in Ukraine, you know, criticizing the president of Ukraine, criticizing Barack Obama, praising Putin and the Russian government - things like. |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 4:04:25 PM EDT
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Separatists with helicopters now
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Posted: 6/5/2015 4:07:09 PM EDT
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Any independent confirmation that Ukraine has moved >= 122mm howitzers forward and are now shelling Donetsk again? http://m.ria.ru/world/20150605/1068411408.html?rubric=sys_daynews&sort=sortkey |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 4:15:31 PM EDT
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Hmmmmm.
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/04/412046928/russian-trolls-spread-false-information-on-the-internet .......Yeah. It seems like a pretty normal office. And I talked to one woman who worked from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., and she had a quota of posts that she was supposed to put up. She would get a list of opinions, basically, that she was supposed to post under the guise of these different personas that she ran. Like, dealing with the war in Ukraine, you know, criticizing the president of Ukraine, criticizing Barack Obama, praising Putin and the Russian government - things like. Beats guard duty in the Arctic Circle |
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Posted: 6/5/2015 4:24:10 PM EDT
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Enough of this shit. The "kinder, gentler, less provocative" measures we've been trying for well over a year are clearly not working. It is time we do something else. With news of this latest offensive breaking today, the response I'd like to see from the White House is a statement being issued detailing the transfer of a significant number of Javelin and TOW2 systems to the Ukrainian Army effectively immediately. Moreover, I'd make it crystal clear to the Russians that going forward, every single piece of combat equipment they bring into this fight will be met by the delivery of a US made system designed to kill it. That is IMO the best way forward for dealing with this crisis. You want to stop the Russian advance? Make them bleed at a rate they are unwilling to sustain. When large numbers of Russian troops start coming home in coffins for what is largely viewed as a dubious cause, civil unrest within Russia will become intolerable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like the summer offensive has begun in Marinka and Avdeevka. Looks like some T-72s were used by the separatists in Marinka http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7Hs http://youtu.be/iX-rV0Ew7HsEnough of this shit. The "kinder, gentler, less provocative" measures we've been trying for well over a year are clearly not working. It is time we do something else. With news of this latest offensive breaking today, the response I'd like to see from the White House is a statement being issued detailing the transfer of a significant number of Javelin and TOW2 systems to the Ukrainian Army effectively immediately. Moreover, I'd make it crystal clear to the Russians that going forward, every single piece of combat equipment they bring into this fight will be met by the delivery of a US made system designed to kill it. That is IMO the best way forward for dealing with this crisis. You want to stop the Russian advance? Make them bleed at a rate they are unwilling to sustain. When large numbers of Russian troops start coming home in coffins for what is largely viewed as a dubious cause, civil unrest within Russia will become intolerable. The fact ISIS is driving around in 2,300 up armored humvees right now (many of which are rigged to be truck bombs) should answer that. |
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