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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:10:19 AM EDT
Thinking about expanding my shop and came across Grizzly. Now I've heard the name mentioned in the past but never checked them out for myself.
First impression: Reminds me alot of the crap that Harbor Freight sales, maybe its just the paint color? Mostly made in China, but then again most are these days. 
Price is almost unbelievable for the level of quality they claim. A table saw they sale for $500 would cost $1500 from Delta. 
And since GD likes pictures. Grizzly scroll saw: 
Central Machinery (Harbor Freight) scroll saw: 
Grizzly planer: 
Central Machinery (Harbor Freight) planer: 
What am I missing here? Grizzly Industrial INC ETA: I should also mention that I'm a General Contractor and while my shop tools don't see use like they would in a commercial cabinet shop they still see WAY more use than Joe Homeowner. Currently most of my shop tools are DeWalt and old Porter Cable, they do what I need, so is Grizzly that good? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:13:03 AM EDT
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I've got a Grizzly mill. Grizzly makes decent stuff. Not top of the line but decent quality for what you pay. For a hobbyist you should be fine.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:15:32 AM EDT
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After reviewing several spindle sanders I decided to try the grizzly that I bought at their scratch & dent sale.
So far it has been excellent, smooth and quite motor and nice steel top square with the spindle. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:20:36 AM EDT
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I have a few machine tools from Grizzly. Their customer support is good and the machines have held up well over time.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:22:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got a Grizzly mill. Grizzly makes decent stuff. Not top of the line but decent quality for what you pay. For a hobbyist you should be fine. What kind of tolerances can you hold on materials like aluminum? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:23:21 AM EDT
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Much better than the Harbor Freight stuff. You should do some reading at the Garage Journal Forums. They have a showroom in Springfield, MO. Not real close to you but if you found yourself in that area you would want to stop by. I have been to their showrooms, really nice.
ETA: A pro 2nd Amendment company and they sell rifle stocks in their showroom. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:27:23 AM EDT
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I have a 6 inch Grizzly joiner (wood) that works well.
Did some mods to the motor mount so I could adjust belt tension evenly. Will agree on the quality, not the best, not the worst. Also have the 14 inch metal chop saw, cuts fine.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:31:01 AM EDT
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I've got a Grizzly mill. Grizzly makes decent stuff. Not top of the line but decent quality for what you pay. For a hobbyist you should be fine. What kind of tolerances can you hold on materials like aluminum? Easily +-.005" and about 75% +-.002" if I'm careful and take my time. Kinda depends on the operation complexity and as with anything, setup is critical. My vice is junk. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:31:14 AM EDT
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Grizzley planer (ok)
Grizzley Tablesaw (great, with a few minor caveats) Grizzley Bandsaw (meh, non-standard sized blades) Grizzley lathe (looking to sell. Ok, just got a nicer old Delta to replace it) G0704 metal mill... haven't used it yet. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:32:52 AM EDT
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I have a Grizzly 1023 cabinet saw. It's rock solid.
Not in the class of a Powermatic, but it holds true and has lasted well for 12 years. Grizzy makes good quality large power tools. However, some of their smaller stuff is not made to the quality as the larger ones. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:39:09 AM EDT
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G0555 Bandsaw. Love it.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 11:53:18 AM EDT
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G0690 table saw here. Very nice, and a terrific deal compared to a Delta.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 12:59:02 PM EDT
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Get the dewalt planer and dont look back. It is amazing. I have ran literally miles of lumber through it including 4x6 6x8 material. The cabinet shop I use to work at had that model grizzly planer and the dewalt. The dewalt is just a better machine. Edited to say I do like the grizzly table saws. As far as cabinet saws go they are gtg.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:11:45 PM EDT
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Get the dewalt planer and dont look back. It is amazing. I have ran literally miles of lumber through it including 4x6 6x8 material. The cabinet shop I use to work at had that model grizzly planer and the dewalt. The dewalt is just a better machine. Edited to say I do like the grizzly table saws. As far as cabinet saws go they are gtg. I would have to agree, the dewalt planer is a good machine. This is coming from a die-hard dewalt hater  .
As far as Grizzly, the only I own is a dust collector, which has served me well for ten years. Haven't been brave enough to try any 'precision' tools, but from what I've heard, they are ok. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:16:30 PM EDT
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Get the dewalt planer and dont look back. It is amazing. I have ran literally miles of lumber through it including 4x6 6x8 material. The cabinet shop I use to work at had that model grizzly planer and the dewalt. The dewalt is just a better machine. Edited to say I do like the grizzly table saws. As far as cabinet saws go they are gtg. Yeah I've got a DeWalt planer it rocks! I just threw that picture up to show the shocking similarity to Central Machinery tools. 
Was looking mainly at a scroll saw and a cabinet saw, I've got a older DeWalt contractor's saw in my shop and while it does 99% of what I need, I've always wanted a cabinet saw. 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:19:55 PM EDT
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I've been very happy with my grizzly tools. I have a 1023 TS, a 15" planer, and an 8" jointer. All have been durable and are more accurate than I am.
Remember jet, powermatic performax, Wilton and a few others are all owed by wmh tool group, and manufactured in china too. I can't see the point in paying 2 or 3x the price for gold or white paint. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:20:56 PM EDT
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I bought a bench grinder and it did not work new out of the box.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:21:07 PM EDT
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I have a grizzly mill that is a copy of the Sieg X2. Harbor freight has exactly the same thing, they just paint it red. I like mine, and it works for cutting lowers. It took some work to get it to cut and feed smooth and precise, but I kind of expected that. I didn't buy a Bridgeport. For the price, you can't beat it.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:35:31 PM EDT
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Yeah we just got a Grizzly band saw 14" model for our small shop at work.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 1:55:32 PM EDT
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Apples to oranges.
Both Chinese but world's apart quality wise. One huge noticeable difference is in the motors, HF are cheap and not balanced well. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:17:09 PM EDT
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What about this one for $895 for a hobbyist cutting aluminum chassis? It's new
G0758 http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mill-Drill/G0758 
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:22:47 PM EDT
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What about this one for $895 for a hobbyist cutting aluminum chassis? It's new G0758 http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mill-Drill/G0758 http://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g0758.jpg The column on that one doesn't look quite as sturdy as the column of the 0704. Or maybe my eyes are tricking me. It looks slightly narrower. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:23:53 PM EDT
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I have a Grizzly Band Saw that I bought in 1995. Still runs and cuts great. I do not know about the quality of other Grizzly machines though.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:28:47 PM EDT
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A while back when I was buying power tools I looked at grizzly and their low end was mostly Taiwanese and the upper end were a mix of north american builders. Seems like they've moved the low end to China now that they've upped their game. I've never had an issue with one myself but I don't own any. I've only used friends.
Shiraz Balolia, who owns Grizzly, is a shooter and makes certain they sell gunsmithing tools and supplies. About 6 years ago I went to buy a dust collector from a guy off craigslist. While in his shop I asked how he like his big, resaw sized band saw. He said it had broken in an odd way. He opened the top cover and showed me a failed weld where the wheel attaches. I snapped a pic of it because it was such an odd failure. A few weeks later I was on wood working forum and someone asked if anyone had any problems with Grizzly's large resaw band saws. I posted the pic saying I had recently run into one with an issue while buying a piece of equipment but I didn't think it was common. Shiraz came back and posted about a dozen personal attacks directed at me. He accused me of manufacturing an issue and trying to sully his name. I posted that he needed to calm the fuck down and that up until now I had no issue with Grizzly. He would have been banned 4 times over for posting what he did here. So they don't seem to be bad tools but I'm not planning on buying any. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:28:51 PM EDT
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The column on that one doesn't look quite as sturdy as the column of the 0704. Or maybe my eyes are tricking me. It looks slightly narrower. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about this one for $895 for a hobbyist cutting aluminum chassis? It's new G0758 http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mill-Drill/G0758 http://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g0758.jpg The column on that one doesn't look quite as sturdy as the column of the 0704. Or maybe my eyes are tricking me. It looks slightly narrower. You got the 0704? If so how is it? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 2:31:26 PM EDT
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Wife bought a scroll saw from them 15 years ago.
Broke a part 2-3 years later, and it was NOT available. Anywhere CS basically said, "Well sell you a new scroll saw!". Hmm, I have other brand stuff, 20, 30, 40 years old and can still usually get parts. But they were all made in 'MURICA! |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 3:32:08 PM EDT
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All my stuff was Jet. Which I think bought Grizzly. Or maybe I have that part mixed up. Ed |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:03:46 PM EDT
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Ive been looking at their website because im in the market for a mill and a metal lathe. Did you guys notice they have a whole "gunsmithing" section? They sell chamber reamers, go/no go gauges and barrels. I have no idea about the quality of any of it.....
http://www.grizzly.com/featured/gunsmithing |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:07:54 PM EDT
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You got the 0704? If so how is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about this one for $895 for a hobbyist cutting aluminum chassis? It's new G0758 http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mill-Drill/G0758 http://cdn0.grizzly.com/pics/jpeg500/g/g0758.jpg The column on that one doesn't look quite as sturdy as the column of the 0704. Or maybe my eyes are tricking me. It looks slightly narrower. You got the 0704? If so how is it? I'll let you know when I remove the cosmoline and actually use it.
I'm planning to eventually do a ballscrew conversion and convert it for CNC use. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:15:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Grizzly stuff I have/had:
G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:16:41 PM EDT
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All my stuff was Jet. Which I think bought Grizzly. Or maybe I have that part mixed up. Ed JET is part of Walter Meier. Unrelated to Grizzly. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:18:38 PM EDT
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have a number of their smaller tools for my lathe and have been happy
plan on getting one of their mills.. i know their gunsmith 12" lathes are worth the money for sure.. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:19:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. i see it as its better than buying HFs stuff.. even it its made on the same street in China..seems like a better product.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:22:06 PM EDT
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You can actually get parts for a Grizzly.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:25:48 PM EDT
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A scroll saw isn't such a heavy duty machine to begin with, in most cases even a machine from Home Depot/Lowes will work fine.
A cabinet/table saw is another matter. That is the heart of your shop. That is the most important tool. I started with a Delta contractor saw, the one with the aluminum waffle table and plastic base, direct drive. That was a joke. Upgraded to a Hitachi home shop saw with induction motor and cast iron top and better fence. Although it was great at first the fence showed its shortcomings and then the motor and arbor bearings went. Changed the arbor bearings and luckily my dad's friend has a motor shop and he rebuilt my motor. Problem is it was not TEFC, but ODP and a POS. Finally I bit the bullet and bought a Delta Unisaw 36L-352. Yeah, it cost over 4 times with the other two cost combined, but it's the last saw I'll ever buy. Solid, well made, holds settings, and enough power and capacity to cut anything I've thrown at it. I was lucky because Amazon had dropped the price on it at the time, it's now $700 more than what I paid. Basically the whole point of my post is to say, for a table saw, buy once and cry once. Especially since you're a contractor and know the value of quality tools and the frustration of buying a tool more than once to replace a shitty one. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:26:03 PM EDT
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i see it as its better than buying HFs stuff.. even it its made on the same street in China..seems like a better product. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. i see it as its better than buying HFs stuff.. even it its made on the same street in China..seems like a better product. As others have said, different companies have their shit made to different standards in China. I will say this about my G0704... the threaded cabinet bolt-down holes did not quite line up with the mill. They were just an RCH off. Could get 3 of the 4 metric bolts threaded. Just by pure dumb luck, that metric thread is close enough to an SAE bolt (I forget which one atm) that is ever so slightly smaller and doesn't cross-thread with that metric. So I was able to use that for the last bolt. Redneck McGuyver like a mfer. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:27:01 PM EDT
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We have a few Grizzly machines in our wood shop. Fhey're not Festool quality, but they're pretty good, especially for the price. The bandsaws are particularly nice.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:28:24 PM EDT
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I use there full size metalworking lathes quite a bit. They are good machines.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:29:50 PM EDT
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We have a few Grizzly machines in our wood shop. Fhey're not Festool quality, but they're pretty good, especially for the price. The bandsaws are particularly nice. There's not much that lives up to Festool. Ammo fort? Hah. You should see my Systainer fort.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:33:04 PM EDT
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Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. For the 0704 mill, how much more for ths cnc conversion? Any good sites to source the cnc kit for the 0704? |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:36:45 PM EDT
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For a scrollsaw, check Craigslist - I've got two Delta SS's and an old Yates-American that I got for less than $300 total for all of them. I could've put both Delta's to wrk the day I brought them home.
Here's the Y-A waiting on its restoration: 
You can see a Delta (with included "retirement" light) behind one the DeWalt RAS's: 
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i see it as its better than buying HFs stuff.. even it its made on the same street in China..seems like a better product. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. i see it as its better than buying HFs stuff.. even it its made on the same street in China..seems like a better product. Pretty much. Better QC and machines built to a better standard. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:37:44 PM EDT
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For the 0704 mill, how much more for ths cnc conversion? Any good sites to source the cnc kit for the 0704? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. For the 0704 mill, how much more for ths cnc conversion? Any good sites to source the cnc kit for the 0704? Look for Hoss on CNCzone, and check out his site at g0704.com. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:47:30 PM EDT
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For the 0704 mill, how much more for ths cnc conversion? Any good sites to source the cnc kit for the 0704? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Grizzly stuff I have/had: G0704 mill (awaiting CNC) G0602 lathe (awaiting CNC) G0517 bandsaw (sold, moved up to a Laguna) G0548 dust collector (still have) I've been very pleased with all their stuff. I really liked the bandsaw - pretty sure it can't be beat for the price. The mill isn't the greatest, but again, for the price it's really tough to beat. For the 0704 mill, how much more for ths cnc conversion? Any good sites to source the cnc kit for the 0704? http://www.g0704.com/ A good place to start. These guys sell a turnkey ballscrew conversion, too. http://www.midwestmachineworks.com/products/mills/g0704.html Best, JBR |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 4:56:58 PM EDT
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Grizzly Bandsaw for 15 years. gtg.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 5:03:22 PM EDT
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I have their mini-mill. It's made by the same people who make all the small machine tools for Harbor Freight, etc. It's a great precision drill press and over-arm router, out of the box, and you can make it into a decent mill for small parts with a little extra work (and aftermarket parts). If you're not making parts for the space station, it's probably not gonna be that big of a deal.
I got on their site earlier to see if they still had their ultra-cheap guitar kits and they've apparently become real proud of them lately, as they jacked up the prices on them. |
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Posted: 2/9/2014 5:08:08 PM EDT
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Got their 6" jointer. Once it's set up properly, its great.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 5:14:14 PM EDT
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I have a older Grizzly Shaper. No complaints.
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Posted: 2/9/2014 6:27:07 PM EDT
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Found a cost spreadsheet to do a CNC conversion on the G0704
https://app.box.com/s/aadlxjjycniiuszuypex |
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Posted: 2/10/2014 5:12:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Easily +-.005" and about 75% +-.002" if I'm careful and take my time. Kinda depends on the operation complexity and as with anything, setup is critical. My vice is junk. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've got a Grizzly mill. Grizzly makes decent stuff. Not top of the line but decent quality for what you pay. For a hobbyist you should be fine. What kind of tolerances can you hold on materials like aluminum? Easily +-.005" and about 75% +-.002" if I'm careful and take my time. Kinda depends on the operation complexity and as with anything, setup is critical. My vice is junk. Good to know. Thanks!  |
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Posted: 2/10/2014 5:23:58 AM EDT
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I have some wood working stuff. No complaints.
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Posted: 2/10/2014 5:26:57 AM EDT
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I got on their site earlier to see if they still had their ultra-cheap guitar kits and they've apparently become real proud of them lately, as they jacked up the prices on them. AFAIK, that's been the case most places. For whatever reason, that's become the next cool thing for people just getting into woodworking. |
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