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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:14:12 PM EDT
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Someone call a medic, I think we have a head injury over here. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:17:12 PM EDT
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My first active unit, 1/4 Cav had three of the damn things. They pretty much sat in the motor pool since it was obvious as hell they were a death trap. We did not even run tank tables with them.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:21:45 PM EDT
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Better than no tanks.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:23:08 PM EDT
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barely, but yeah.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:23:55 PM EDT
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Had seen them LAPES'd a few times at Bragg.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:24:34 PM EDT
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Someone call a medic, I think we have a head injury over here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Someone call a medic, I think we have a head injury over here. u jelly. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:25:16 PM EDT
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Decent if you don't have anything else.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:26:58 PM EDT
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For an aluminum beer can with a short range gun, not bad.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:27:41 PM EDT
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They were good vehicles assuming you knew the limitations. The 551A1 shared the same TTS the M60A3 has.
Those were the days. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:28:26 PM EDT
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I thought it was deemed a turd?
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:29:35 PM EDT
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I thought it was deemed a turd? I did not find them to be bad vehicles , they are not an MBT and cant be treated like one. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:32:44 PM EDT
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:34:12 PM EDT
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Truth.. It is a damn fine scout vehicle hence the AR/AAV . |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:34:28 PM EDT
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:35:19 PM EDT
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Here's a photo of some of that commie shit from the poll...
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:35:40 PM EDT
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Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. I never witnessed an M60 LAPES . I would pay a dollar to see that. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:38:12 PM EDT
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I never witnessed an M60 LAPES . I would pay a dollar to see that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. I never witnessed an M60 LAPES . I would pay a dollar to see that. I don't think I would want to be on an airplane that lost a m60 down the ramp, the center of gravity would shift bigtime. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:38:46 PM EDT
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The only tank that could do wheelies when it fired its cannon
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:40:47 PM EDT
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for sale about 30 minutes from me
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:41:33 PM EDT
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I thought it was deemed a turd? Really, it was a scout with a turret, not a tank in the classic sense. Missile ammo that was deemed too dangerous to fire, assuming it DID fire, CASELESS 152 mm ammo that usually broke and cover the turret floor with powder, breechblocks that cracked like a Cheezit with only modest round counts, turret traverse motors that would break pretty much continously, So much recoil it would lift the first three roadwheels into the air. 
On the other hand, it was a dream to pull track on. Easier than a 113. 
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:42:40 PM EDT
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for sale about 30 minutes from me https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/221910_10151136631273491_145586473_n.jpg I do want...  I could relive my salad days.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:44:23 PM EDT
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for sale about 30 minutes from me https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/221910_10151136631273491_145586473_n.jpg group buy? |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:44:30 PM EDT
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I don't think I would want to be on an airplane that lost a m60 down the ramp, the center of gravity would shift bigtime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. I never witnessed an M60 LAPES . I would pay a dollar to see that. I don't think I would want to be on an airplane that lost a m60 down the ramp, the center of gravity would shift bigtime. That and you would have been doing LAPES with a C5 
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:46:44 PM EDT
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Really, it was a scout with a turret, not a tank in the classic sense. Missile ammo that was deemed too dangerous to fire, assuming it DID fire, CASELESS 152 mm ammo that usually broke and cover the turret floor with powder, breechblocks that cracked like a Cheezit with only modest round counts, turret traverse motors that would break pretty much continously, So much recoil it would lift the first three roadwheels into the air.
On the other hand, it was a dream to pull track on. Easier than a 113. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought it was deemed a turd? Really, it was a scout with a turret, not a tank in the classic sense. Missile ammo that was deemed too dangerous to fire, assuming it DID fire, CASELESS 152 mm ammo that usually broke and cover the turret floor with powder, breechblocks that cracked like a Cheezit with only modest round counts, turret traverse motors that would break pretty much continously, So much recoil it would lift the first three roadwheels into the air.
On the other hand, it was a dream to pull track on. Easier than a 113. My big bitch with the gun was it was slow to reload. It was not bad with the MGM 51C |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:49:33 PM EDT
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I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. A Cav platoon had 6 Sheridans, 2 113s, and a 106 4 deuce mortar carrier. No MBT unit in Germany even came close. It's a crappy vehicle with shitty turret electronics. I spent 3 years facing the Warsaw Pact with it. Mike
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0010.jpg I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. A Cav platoon had 6 Sheridans, 2 113s, and a 106 4 deuce mortar carrier. No MBT unit in Germany even came close. It's a crappy vehicle with shitty turret electronics. I spent 3 years facing the Warsaw Pact with it. Mikehttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0006.jpg Sweet, got any good stories? |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:54:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweet, got any good stories? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0010.jpg I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. A Cav platoon had 6 Sheridans, 2 113s, and a 106 4 deuce mortar carrier. No MBT unit in Germany even came close. It's a crappy vehicle with shitty turret electronics. I spent 3 years facing the Warsaw Pact with it. Mikehttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0006.jpg Sweet, got any good stories? |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:56:54 PM EDT
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Not many I can tell here. LOL They had a tendency to catch on fire to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0010.jpg I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. A Cav platoon had 6 Sheridans, 2 113s, and a 106 4 deuce mortar carrier. No MBT unit in Germany even came close. It's a crappy vehicle with shitty turret electronics. I spent 3 years facing the Warsaw Pact with it. Mikehttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0006.jpg Sweet, got any good stories? Ours never burned, that may have something to do with the way is constantly filled with water in the rain.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 4:57:00 PM EDT
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Makes me wish the XM8 had (hah!) taken off. There were rumors of slots available to crew it during the testing. Holee hell did some of us young E1s beg the platoon daddy for whatever paperwork it would have taken to get to Stuart and be part of that.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:03:16 PM EDT
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They swim too. We swam them in AIT, I was trained for them but was on M60 A1s & 2s the whole time I was in. The A2s fired the same main gun round. I don't recall any problems with the ammo and you didn't have all that hot brass in the turret with you. Always thought the 105mm was more fun to shoot though.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:04:53 PM EDT
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Are they still using them dressed up as commie vehicles at Ft Irwin or have they moved onto something newer/better?
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ours never burned, that may have something to do with the way is constantly filled with water in the rain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0010.jpg I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. A Cav platoon had 6 Sheridans, 2 113s, and a 106 4 deuce mortar carrier. No MBT unit in Germany even came close. It's a crappy vehicle with shitty turret electronics. I spent 3 years facing the Warsaw Pact with it. Mikehttp://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd44/ncmike57/2Cav75/scan0006.jpg Sweet, got any good stories? Ours never burned, that may have something to do with the way is constantly filled with water in the rain. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:05:47 PM EDT
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Are they still using them dressed up as commie vehicles at Ft Irwin or have they moved onto something newer/better? Those were scrapped years ago. Some were made into reefs iirc. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those were scrapped years ago. Some were made into reefs iirc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are they still using them dressed up as commie vehicles at Ft Irwin or have they moved onto something newer/better?  Those were scrapped years ago. Some were made into reefs iirc. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:18:24 PM EDT
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I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. Thanks for posting the pic, brings back memories. I took an M60A1 to Graf in '76, an A2 in '77, and an A1 again in '78. I was in 3/64 Armored Battalion near Schweinfurt. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:18:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone call a medic, I think we have a head injury over here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone call a medic, I think we have a head injury over here. Most maintance intensive, always broke-dick, too-complicated for what it was piece of shit armored airborne reconnaissance vehicle ever.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:26:07 PM EDT
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitloJfQk-M
Here's some Sheridan video from the 70's taken by my friend Butch Page on 8mm film. I saw several of these guys at our last reunion. Yes it has freebird. LOL, Mike |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:28:14 PM EDT
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Decent if you don't have anything else. But just barely from all the stories that I've read. The Cav hated them in 'Nam. They were used to jungle busting with M48's. When they tried the same techniques with the M551, they would just drive up the tree trunks. James |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:32:06 PM EDT
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Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's the best tank you can drop out of an airplane, on purpose. Naww you can airdrop a M60........once....... and it wont be useful for anything other than cover after it lands. If you drop it once, you may as well drop it again. and again and again and again |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:35:29 PM EDT
[#40]
My dad was in one of those in 77-78. He said it was a big pile of shit. He has a picture of it after it was shot by another one.
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Posted: 1/16/2014 5:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for posting the pic, brings back memories. I took an M60A1 to Graf in '76, an A2 in '77, and an A1 again in '78. I was in 3/64 Armored Battalion near Schweinfurt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. Thanks for posting the pic, brings back memories. I took an M60A1 to Graf in '76, an A2 in '77, and an A1 again in '78. I was in 3/64 Armored Battalion near Schweinfurt. Which company? I was in Bravo 3/64 from Dec. '78 to Dec. '80. |
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Posted: 1/16/2014 6:57:44 PM EDT
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Which company? I was in Bravo 3/64 from Dec. '78 to Dec. '80. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. Thanks for posting the pic, brings back memories. I took an M60A1 to Graf in '76, an A2 in '77, and an A1 again in '78. I was in 3/64 Armored Battalion near Schweinfurt. Which company? I was in Bravo 3/64 from Dec. '78 to Dec. '80. I was in Alpha then transferred to Bravo. I can't remember for sure if I was in 2/64 or 3/64, pretty sure it was 3/64. It was the one farthest from Brigade HQ, closest to the snack bar/gym. I left in Mar '78. Capt Brazille was the CO in Bravo Co when I left, but he had been there a while. Probably left shortly after I did. .jpg/125px-64_Armor_Rgt_DUI_(We_Pierce).jpg)
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Posted: 1/17/2014 5:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in Alpha then transferred to Bravo. I can't remember for sure if I was in 2/64 or 3/64, pretty sure it was 3/64. It was the one farthest from Brigade HQ, closest to the snack bar/gym. I left in Mar '78. Capt Brazille was the CO in Bravo Co when I left, but he had been there a while. Probably left shortly after I did. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/64_Armor_Rgt_DUI_(We_Pierce).jpg/125px-64_Armor_Rgt_DUI_(We_Pierce).jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I believe the 3/2 ACR qualified all but one on Table 8 at Graf in 76 or 77. Thanks for posting the pic, brings back memories. I took an M60A1 to Graf in '76, an A2 in '77, and an A1 again in '78. I was in 3/64 Armored Battalion near Schweinfurt. Which company? I was in Bravo 3/64 from Dec. '78 to Dec. '80. I was in Alpha then transferred to Bravo. I can't remember for sure if I was in 2/64 or 3/64, pretty sure it was 3/64. It was the one farthest from Brigade HQ, closest to the snack bar/gym. I left in Mar '78. Capt Brazille was the CO in Bravo Co when I left, but he had been there a while. Probably left shortly after I did. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/64_Armor_Rgt_DUI_(We_Pierce).jpg/125px-64_Armor_Rgt_DUI_(We_Pierce).jpg Small world; 3/64 was closest to the gym. The Bravo CO was CPT Rex Walmsley (sp?) when I got there; some of the guys called him 7-fingered Rex as he was missing most of the fingers on one hand due to a hatch accident. I don't remember the 1SG's name, but he was a short, skinny bald-headed guy who referred to the hash smokers as the "bowl for lunch bunch." The A2s were still on post at the time but were turned in shortly thereafter. Here's B-21, which I threw a track on in Hohenfels some time in '79. After spending a day in the mud trying to get it back on, the M88 finally had to drag us out on the road wheels to find a flat, semi-dry field to put it back together.  Thread derail complete. |
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Posted: 1/17/2014 6:03:30 PM EDT
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I don't mind the derail. Cool stories and pictures.
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Posted: 1/17/2014 6:17:15 PM EDT
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The RPG made it obsolete and a death trap.
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Posted: 1/17/2014 6:20:55 PM EDT
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I saw one in Cambodia with the turret sitting on the ground through the floor. Chicom command det mine blew the bottom out of it and the turret fell in. Killed everybody on it but the TC, he was blown out the hatch and all fucked up. Happened at Lz Xray 2 . They caught the guy who set it off. had him enclosed in a barbed wire pen, First live NVA I'd ever seen.
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Posted: 1/17/2014 6:22:32 PM EDT
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DATs 
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Posted: 1/17/2014 7:29:36 PM EDT
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Is that a Hoffman device on B21? I spent a lot of time at Hoenfels and never knew there were barracks there. We always stayed on the tracks.
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Posted: 1/17/2014 7:36:55 PM EDT
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Poll fail. No option for: "Piece of Shit"!
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Posted: 1/18/2014 8:50:13 AM EDT
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Poll fail. No option for: "Piece of Shit"! that choice was not given on purpose.
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