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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:05:27 AM EDT
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It went away with sir/ma'am, Mr./Mrs./Ms. etc...  We still use all of those in the South. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:06:28 AM EDT
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Who needs life skills?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:16:58 AM EDT
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I forgot how. I went to a Catholic grade school and we learned it or got smacked. LOL. After not using it for 4 years of high school, college, and 15 years working with computers I forgot how to do it.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:18:31 AM EDT
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You went to state university for no charge? Why am I saving for my kids' college? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I went to a State University... I perhaps misunderstood the nature of that institution as well... You went to state university for no charge? Why am I saving for my kids' college? In Florida we have something called the Bright Futures Scholarship, if you have a 3.5 average in high school you get your tuition to any state university or community college paid for. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:30:30 AM EDT
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I have been thinking the handwriting is obsolete for a while now. Friggin kids can text 100 wpm So there is always somebody around who can type now while typing 25 years ago was rare unless you were a secretary. With the advent of smart phones regular typing must be swirling around the drain also as most younger types don't even own a laptop.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:48:11 AM EDT
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the key words are Assign and Choose. High school used to be training to get a job. Shop class was so you could have some basic skills to build on when you started a trade apprenticeship. He's not arguing against training for specific jobs he's arguing against assining those jobs to people without their choice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The purpose for PRIVATELY FUNDED education may be for whatever reasons suit the purchaser, be it culture, self fulfillment, whatever. The purpose for PUBLICLY FUNDED education is so your rug rat isn't a drag on society and has a way to make a living. I'm not paying for your kid to feel good about himself or to understand life's finer points. I'm paying now so I'll have a better chance and not paying later. If this is the case, then why not just assign the kids to a profession and an apprenticeship? It would guarantee they have work skills without wasting all that time and money on actual education. I thought the purpose of public education was to provide our nation's children with the tools to learn and excel with the hope that they would push our country and our civilization to greater cultural and technological heights. I guess I misunderstood. 
Yeah, that's exactly the same thing as giving them the basic education that will allow them to choose their own career. I don't give a shit if your kid is well rounded or has a chance to be a rocket surgeon or president. I care that I don't have to pay for him to sit on his ass and stuff his face with McDonalds for the rest of his life. It's YOUR responsibility to see that he reaches his potential, not mine or ours. Public education should be just that. Not sports or art or music or chess club. If you want your kid to play tuba or football, that should be on your dime, not mine. So you do want public education to do more than allow them to not be a drag on society? It seems that you are arguing both sides... An apprenticeship would allow a child to have the ability to assume gainful employment almost immediately without all of the cumbersome public education, thus allowing them to earn their own way and not be a drag on you and yours. But you see that as crazy talk. High school used to be training to get a job. Shop class was so you could have some basic skills to build on when you started a trade apprenticeship. He's not arguing against training for specific jobs he's arguing against assining those jobs to people without their choice. Maybe that's the difference between a high school and a College Preparatory school. We didn't have shop or typing for that matter, they were considered vocational skills. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:02:22 AM EDT
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Cursive is much faster than block printing.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:24:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cursive was taught when I was a wee lad, but when I got in the Navy it was "write in all caps perfectly", which is what I still do twenty+ years later. Other than signatures, I never use it. yup I can still write cursive, but I type most things and when I do hand write its usually in block letters
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:34:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't want your field notes in cursive because you suck at it and I can't read them. You can suck at printing and I can still read it. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:51:05 AM EDT
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Useless like calligraphy
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Posted: 4/23/2014 6:17:20 AM EDT
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I had a conversation recently with a lady at work. I say cursive is worthless, she says, "what about writing a check?" I look at her .
She says checks have to be written in cursive. I told her, to her surprise it seems, that for the last 40 years I have printed out my checks and have not had one returned yet. Checks are way more antiquated than cursive writing. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 3:31:29 PM EDT
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A friend who works for a mortgage broker can tell me a ton of stories on the amount of people she encounters who can't sign a basic document with block printing looks like a 3 yr old on crayons.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:19:39 PM EDT
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Sometime in 2001 I was introduced to block lettering. 2 years later I was writing in architect because I was drafting.
Now doing 4473s on a daily basis, block lettering is a great thing to have as there's plenty of opportunity to clearly see what gun is being sold via S/N. 
I do cap and base the letter I, however. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:12:12 PM EDT
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For stuff like that...yeah I totally agree but I am in the sense talking about personal documents or personal letters and various other informal writing setups.
But I do agree with stuff like 4473's.....block writing like architecture style makes sense. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:34:16 PM EDT
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He's right. People will judge you, and poor handwriting is one thing that will cause people to think less of you. Penmanship is a class marker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's pretty much the same as grooming, if you care about your appearance you will work at it. Penmanship truly is an extension of your appearance to others. If you cant write ........ Full on retarded has been reached. He's right. People will judge you, and poor handwriting is one thing that will cause people to think less of you. Penmanship is a class marker. Your on crack..
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:40:05 PM EDT
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Learned cursive, haven't used it since I was 9 (I'm 23 now). I only use cursive to sign my name. I can't read most peoples cursive because it's sloppy and formless, even for cursive. I think kids should learn it just so they can read it, but that is about it. Antiquated and useless.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:46:51 PM EDT
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My daughter is in third grade and learning it. Her handwriting is better than mine ever was.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:53:40 PM EDT
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They have state and national competitions for penmanship man, if your daughters is great, sign her up for competition, it will be interesting for her.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 11:47:57 PM EDT
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Your on crack.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's pretty much the same as grooming, if you care about your appearance you will work at it. Penmanship truly is an extension of your appearance to others. If you cant write ........ Full on retarded has been reached. He's right. People will judge you, and poor handwriting is one thing that will cause people to think less of you. Penmanship is a class marker. Your on crack.. Your vs. You're. Grammar is also a class marker. 
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Posted: 4/24/2014 12:20:12 AM EDT
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Big waste of time.
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Posted: 4/24/2014 1:47:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your on crack.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's pretty much the same as grooming, if you care about your appearance you will work at it. Penmanship truly is an extension of your appearance to others. If you cant write ........ Full on retarded has been reached. He's right. People will judge you, and poor handwriting is one thing that will cause people to think less of you. Penmanship is a class marker. Your on crack.. |
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Posted: 4/24/2014 1:48:55 AM EDT
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