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DwayneHicks
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:11:01 AM
How is this not an SBR? Does anybody think this is a good buy? sorry can not hot link.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/featured-not-published/zastava-pap-m92-pv-pistol-w-krinkov-style-muzzle-brake-sb-47-stabilizing-arm-brace-detail.html?Itemid=0
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:12:48 AM
Sig makes the same thing for ar's. Atf letter and everything.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:12:56 AM
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Welcome friend. It has probably been lonely under that rock.

Sig SB15 arm brace. Looks like they have an AK version now.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:16:32 AM
Do you even freedom bro?
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:16:38 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By diehippy:
Welcome friend. It has probably been lonely under that rock.

Sig SB15 arm brace. Looks like they have an AK version now.

HA Yeah I dont get out much. Well since its old news never mind, I think if I want a Krink AK, I will pay the 200 bucks and SBR it. Besides that "arm brace" looks like a tacticool dildo.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 9:36:41 AM
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[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By DwayneHicks:
Originally Posted By diehippy:
Welcome friend. It has probably been lonely under that rock.

Sig SB15 arm brace. Looks like they have an AK version now.

HA Yeah I dont get out much. Well since its old news never mind, I think if I want a Krink AK, I will pay the 200 bucks and SBR it. Besides that "arm brace" looks like a tacticool dildo.

Buy the krink with the brace, pay the $200, put a real stock on when the stamp shows up. Until then you can shoot your dildo AK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqhLO3SRyXU
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:02:24 AM
Because the fucking retards in our govt have declared one style is an arm brace and another is a stock.

So....because they say so.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:07:42 AM
[Last Edit: 10/8/2013 10:09:02 AM by Dennis2313]
To answer the op question, it is not a rifle because it is not designed to be fired from the shoulder.

The arm brace is not long enough for a person to shoulder the weapon, thus, it is a pistol.

By comparison, if you put a rifle stock on your glock, it becomes a rifle as it is then able to be fired from your shoulder.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:12:01 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Dennis2313:
To answer the op question, it is not a rifle because it is not designed to be fired from the shoulder.

The arm brace is not long enough for a person to shoulder the weapon, thus, it is a pistol.

By comparison, if you put a rifle stock on your glock, it becomes a rifle as it is then able to be fired from your shoulder.



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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:13:12 AM
Federal laws. ADA vs NFA. Ain't life grand. I have a disability, so I get to own sbr's with no stamp. Suck on that ATF. Just kidding, but if one had a real disability and a good lawyer.....
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:25:36 AM
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The ruling is based on its INTENDED PURPOSE, which is that of an arm brace that was specifically designed to help disabled vets fire AR pistols. It was approved for that usage (as a brace for pistols). The fact that it may or may not be able to be used as a stock is inconsequential.

and for those people in states that do not allow NFA items, it's a "brace" for sore eyes.

It does, however, look like dildos.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:31:57 AM
NFA is bullshit anyway and we all know it.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 10:34:16 AM
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Posted: 10/8/2013 11:01:53 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By DwayneHicks:
How is this not an SBR? Does anybody think this is a good buy? sorry can not hot link.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/featured-not-published/zastava-pap-m92-pv-pistol-w-krinkov-style-muzzle-brake-sb-47-stabilizing-arm-brace-detail.html?Itemid=0


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Posted: 10/8/2013 11:18:29 AM
An SBR or not? You aren't qualified to make that decision. You're just a grunt 13-er.

No offense.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 11:18:50 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
NFA is bullshit anyway and we all know it.


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Posted: 10/8/2013 11:26:51 AM
I continue to be puzzled that ATF signed off on that.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 11:28:22 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By brassburn:
I continue to be puzzled that ATF signed off on that.

They'll change their mind eventually.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 2:36:02 PM
ATF letter, it's an arm brace not a stock.
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Posted: 10/8/2013 2:57:38 PM
Oooooor:

Who gives a shit? Go shoot it, enjoy it, and stop hoping the ATF does something that makes sense.
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Posted: 10/9/2013 9:06:34 AM
[Jump To Reply]Originally Posted By Enlightenme556:
Originally Posted By Dennis2313:
To answer the op question, it is not a rifle because it is not designed to be fired from the shoulder.

The arm brace is not long enough for a person to shoulder the weapon, thus, it is a pistol.

By comparison, if you put a rifle stock on your glock, it becomes a rifle as it is then able to be fired from your shoulder.



Orly.
Furthermore, improper use of said dildo brace thingy is not necessarily illegal. All that matters is that it was is not designed to be fired from the shoulder.